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darthrevaninlight wrote...

I don't think Tali would like being in the position of authority. It's just not her style. She likes the freedom of invisibility, of being underneath the radar. She doesn't like extra attention, and while she is an amazing friend, she cannot stand strangers having expectations of her.

I think Tali's more suited to being one of those champion-type characters that disappears once troubles are over and always pops up when you need her, like with Shepard.


There...much better.

And I concur, her first two commands, everybody died, and if not, only Shepard's the reason that anybody made it out alive, anyway. Even if Shepard is a Torfan commander, he probably won't be able to get her over that. So, she'll just stay in the command line behind Shepard.

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darthrevaninlight wrote...

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No support for councillor Xen then?...

Raan could probably be a good councillor. Tali could then take over as head of the patrol fleet if need be

I don't think Tali would like being in the position of authority. It's just not her style. She likes the freedom of invisibility, of being underneath the radar. She doesn't like extra attention, and while she is an amazing friend, she cannot stand strangers having expectations of her.

I think Tali's more suited to being one of those champion-type characters that disappears once troubles are over and always pops up when you need her, like Shepard.

Good candidate for spectres. Imagine it, three spectres show up in the middle of your criminal actions, three of the most important people in the victory over the reapers. You will crap all of your organs out. Including you skin. Also, quarians need some spectres. Best on-ship fighting force in the galaxy and best techs in the galaxy. So much better than salarian spectres.

Armor is nice.
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darthrevaninlight wrote...

bazzag wrote...

No support for councillor Xen then?...

Raan could probably be a good councillor. Tali could then take over as head of the patrol fleet if need be

I don't think Tali would like being in the position of authority. It's just not her style. She likes the freedom of invisibility, of being underneath the radar. She doesn't like extra attention, and while she is an amazing friend, she cannot stand strangers having expectations of her.

I think Tali's more suited to being one of those champion-type characters that disappears once troubles are over and always pops up when you need her, like Shepard.


True, altho as an admiral, she could be interim head of the patrol fleet until a new one is elected.
Besides, now the quarians have rannoch back, i'm sure the fleets structure would change.

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darthrevaninlight wrote...

bazzag wrote...

No support for councillor Xen then?...

Raan could probably be a good councillor. Tali could then take over as head of the patrol fleet if need be

I don't think Tali would like being in the position of authority. It's just not her style. She likes the freedom of invisibility, of being underneath the radar. She doesn't like extra attention, and while she is an amazing friend, she cannot stand strangers having expectations of her.

I think Tali's more suited to being one of those champion-type characters that disappears once troubles are over and always pops up when you need her, like Shepard.


Possibly, but her and Shepard also share a huge willingness to sacrifice for others. She is responsible and like she became an admiral to try and stop the Quarians being too crazy, she may accept a temporary position of responsibility to make sure things settle correctly after the events of ME3. After all the post ME3 world is somewhat of a powder keg and it wouldn't take a lot to undo all the work Shepard, Tali and co put into bringing the galaxy together. I think it's just too important to sneak off in the night.

Once things have settled, I don't see why either of them would want to stay in the limelight, but while they are needed, I can't see them turning their backs on their people.

PS. Lol at the Tali kitty. Obviously quite well suited for my current avatar.

Modifié par Fenrisfil, 14 avril 2012 - 11:18 .


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exelsis wrote...

Good candidate for spectres. Imagine it, three spectres show up in the middle of your criminal actions, three of the most important people in the victory over the reapers. You will crap all of your organs out. Including you skin. Also, quarians need some spectres. Best on-ship fighting force in the galaxy and best techs in the galaxy. So much better than salarian spectres.

Armor is nice.


I can't see her opting to be a Spectre. That seems like a bit of a long term thing and can't see there being an immediate need for them either. After ME3 it's going to be all about Politics and figureheads. Which is the opposite of what a Spectre does. They would need to settle a new council in before they even looked at Spectres.

I kinda think Xen could do that job actually (once they are recruiting). She's devious enough, and obviously not afraid of walking shakey moral lines. Don't know if she'd keep in line with the councils wishes however.

Modifié par Fenrisfil, 14 avril 2012 - 11:23 .


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If there's to be a quarian Spectre it should be Kal'Reegar. That email never happened...

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darthrevaninlight wrote...

Discuss!!
Let's talk about Tali's shoulders!!!
What do they look like?

I always thought they seemed a bit similar to Atton Rand's from KOTOR 2:
*doublesnipofepicness*

The whole ribbed effect, anyway.

I dunno, they look and feel like really soft putty, by the time Shepard's done with those magic massaging hands of his. Warning, fic coming! Starring: My Shepard - Tali'Zorah
Cameoing: some of my MP OCs

Tali: Keelah. That's... How did you learn how to... do that~?
Shepard: Well, handling a sniper rifle takes a lot of dexterity... I did beat Garrus at that bottle shooting contest, after all.
Tali: Bu-but, that doesn't explain how you... know... exactly where to rub...
Shepard: I know exactly where to touch - what to say - where to blow massive holes to do a lot of things. May I remind you of this one time I brought peace between the quarians and the geth?
Tali: Please... do. I never get tired of remembering how I felt... aah, keelah, juuuust right, Shepard. How I felt when Han'Gerrel told the fleet to... back off. This is heeeaaven, Shepard...

Shepard: No, heaven was finally getting this damn house. With you. Ever since Mindoir, I've never had a place to truly call my own. Even the Normandy was more like a mobile base than a house. And the original got blown up. I died. But I got better. Imagine if we were together back then... I probably would have survived, with you in my mind. Somehow, I would have. I defended myself during the Blitz because I didn't know what else to do. I neither wanted to live, nor die. Same with Eden Prime. After that, saving the galaxy was important. Now - I want to spend eternity with you, Tali. That night before the attack on the Collector base meant so damn much.
Tali: That means a lot, Shepard... As to why I didn't tell you how I felt earlier... My Pilgrimage was important... and I had no idea how humans would react to such talk... I... could listen to you speak all day while you massage me~
Shepard: You don't need to know how humans feel about this kind of thing. Just me. I don't know hide-nor-hair of how quarians treat relationships... other than through the filter of your own wants and needs, Tali. And you know me well enough.

Tali: I remember... how happy I felt when we were finally reunited after our allied forces destroyed the Reapers, Shepard. According to the reports, there's no way you should have survived Harbinger's onslaught, not even with the excellent field medicine you got! Not everyone got their happiness, but we got ours... I kinda - keelah, that was good! I think you pinched a nerve in a magnficent way, there. I kinda felt guilty... but we were right, all along. And I'm sorry if it seems selfish, but we deserve our happiness. As do Gabby and Donnely. And Jacob and Brynne. Wrex, Bakara, Grunt, and the entire krogan species as well. We all do.
Shepard: I just hope they're able to repair EDI without completely shattering her individuality. Joker would be devastated, and he's been with me longer than you have, Tali. Longer than anyone, even Garrus. And EDI deserves better. She shouldn't just become an Enhanced Defence Intelligence again. She and Joker deserve their happiness about as much as we do. If not more.

Tali: Aaaaaaah! Keep going with that kind of massage and anyone listening in would think we're sharing our bodies with one another~ <3
Shepard: We already are. Just in a nice, romantic way. Nothing steamy, we can see each other in perfect clarity, without all those chemicals of love and passion getting in the way. Not that I hate them, just... I can see the stars and angels that your radiant eyes bring forth much better without you moving around so much. And I love angels, and stars. I really... do.

Tali: That's... poetic. I love you... But I wonder what happened to that elite unit Liara had shadowing you? Team... Andonuts, I think it was? Odd name, but it probably makes sense to them.
Shepard: I hear they were decimated. One of their snipers - human, lost three limbs defending me from Harbinger as a distraction - or so I was told. I was out cold at the time, I was just shot by a Reaper, for Christ's sake! And he was one of the lucky ones. One of the three that lived. And he... also found his happiness. Although not without a lot of pain on the way. His family were sent to Sanctuary... He tried - and failed, to convince them not to go.
Tali: Keelah, that's horrible. I saw first-hand what happened there, so did you! I - ooooh, keep going... I found this message on my omni-tool just before the Crucible fired. From... Susan Thorton. It was sent to everyone in range, it seems. Perhaps she was the one who made it up there?
Shepard: Perhaps we should read it later? If it's too sad... it might wreck the mood.
Tali: Good ideaaahhhh.... You really are good at this! We could make a lot of money if you opened a massage parlour for quarians.
Shepard: I'd much rather not touch any other quarians. If I'm the only one who gets into your suit, yours is the only suit I should get into. And besides, this way, we always have the option for a happy ending.

Tali: Happy... ending. I think I get it. :wub: But if there really is a heaven, I think I'm already in it. You... rubbing my body. Massaging me all over, while I lay down and... I don't know how I ever lived with that bosh'tet of an immune system, and that envirosuit, and...
Shepard: The same way I lived without you most of my life. If you don't know it, you can't miss it. I'm glad, Tali. Glad you didn't die. At the Collector base, on Rannoch, during the assault on Earth... You're not in heaven. You're alive. With me. I'm going to let you in on a secret, Tali.
Tali: Go on... and don't stop... Don't ever stop! Keelah, this is amazing. You have magical fingers, Shepard~

Shepard: Your shoulders, back, and eyes are magic. As is your mind, most of all. My fingers are just borrowing that. Anyhow - back on Rannoch. That speech I gave. That was... different from the rest. When I convinced Wrex I was on his side, when I got Saren to realise his indoctrination, when I stopped you from attacking Legion. I was thinking. In command. On Rannoch, I was... saying the first thing that came into my head. A combination of a self-rightous need not to genocide any species. A combination of that... and pure, undiluted love and need. For you. Your happiness was paramount there. It combined with my subconsious need to be the hero, and never putting my needs above the many. Don't breathe a word to no-one, but that was how I managed to save your whole species. The way I convinced Admiral vas Leeroy not to attack a peaceful synthetic race. To kiss and make up, so to speak.

Tali: So... you were playing touch-and-go? Only that time? You risked my entire people?
Shepard: No. NO! I risked... the geth. If it didn't work, I would have shot Legion, without hesitation, and hated myself for it. Most likely wouldn't have survived my wounds, as self-loathing would have trumped heroic resolve.
Tali: I don't know if I feel better hearing you say that... but I know you feel better getting it off your chest... and thaaaahhh! Th-th-that... combined with this... divine massage... By both our ancestors, Shepard...
Shepard: Not my mother. She abused my father. But we can talk about that later.
Tali: You mentioned... a happy ending? Up... for that?
Shepard: I thought you'd never ask. <3
Tali: :wub:... *pounces*
Shepard: :o Lock the doo-*mmph*
*The two kiss, and then... use your imagination, kids*


As for the suit VS Rand's shirt... Yeah. Similar. But I don't care, after writing that mouthful. I hope you like it, I kinda made it up as I went along.

EDIT: My God, the topic picked up while I was writing that. Hope it's not too hard for you all to read!

Modifié par N7Kopper, 14 avril 2012 - 11:29 .


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Reorte wrote...

If there's to be a quarian Spectre it should be Kal'Reegar. That email never happened...


Well Shepard was reported dead once (at least). If he did survive he's certainly Spectre material.

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I think the Council would be restructured to include more members, and the failures of the previous Council would call for reforms to increase transparency. I think that includes abolishing the Spectres; you can't have an accountable government with unaccountable agents.

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huntrrz wrote...

I think the Council would be restructured to include more members, and the failures of the previous Council would call for reforms to increase transparency. I think that includes abolishing the Spectres; you can't have an accountable government with unaccountable agents.


Don't forget that part of the Spectres job was to avoid wars. They weren't spies either (not all of them anyway), some were more like diplomats. If the council has a wider membership (I agree there, seems an obvious move after what happened) then the Spectres wouldn't be acting in the interest of just 3 or 4 governments.

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Fenrisfil wrote...

Reorte wrote...

If there's to be a quarian Spectre it should be Kal'Reegar. That email never happened...


Well Shepard was reported dead once (at least). If he did survive he's certainly Spectre material.


I think you'll find that if you go back some pages, me and elitepredator brought reegar back to life. We had the tech, but not the resources, so we recycled some geth parts, creating reegar prime, a quarian/geth hybrid. He's badass, like robocop.

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N7Kopper wrote...

darthrevaninlight wrote...

Discuss!!
Let's talk about Tali's shoulders!!!
What do they look like?

I always thought they seemed a bit similar to Atton Rand's from KOTOR 2:
*doublesnipofepicness*

The whole ribbed effect, anyway.

I dunno, they look and feel like really soft putty, by the time Shepard's done with those magic massaging hands of his. Warning, fic coming! Starring: My Shepard - Tali'Zorah
Cameoing: some of my MP OCs

****Fanficsnip****

As for the suit VS Rand's shirt... Yeah. Similar. But I don't care, after writing that mouthful. I hope you like it, I kinda made it up as I went along.

EDIT: My God, the topic picked up while I was writing that. Hope it's not too hard for you all to read!



Some parts were great, others a bit to corney for my tastes :lol:... main thing is that they can come off a bit selfish somtimes with the juxtapositions with "oh yes" and "shame they all died" bits, but the idea is good

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BigglesFlysAgain wrote...

N7Kopper wrote...

darthrevaninlight wrote...

Discuss!!
Let's talk about Tali's shoulders!!!
What do they look like?

I always thought they seemed a bit similar to Atton Rand's from KOTOR 2:
*doublesnipofepicness*

The whole ribbed effect, anyway.

I dunno, they look and feel like really soft putty, by the time Shepard's done with those magic massaging hands of his. Warning, fic coming! Starring: My Shepard - Tali'Zorah
Cameoing: some of my MP OCs

****Fanficsnip****

As for the suit VS Rand's shirt... Yeah. Similar. But I don't care, after writing that mouthful. I hope you like it, I kinda made it up as I went along.

EDIT: My God, the topic picked up while I was writing that. Hope it's not too hard for you all to read!



Some parts were great, others a bit to corney for my tastes :lol:... main thing is that they can come off a bit selfish somtimes with the juxtapositions with "oh yes" and "shame they all died" bits, but the idea is good

A little selfishness. Sometimes you need to be selfish. To cope with the trauma.
And wouldn't you be all lovey-dovey if you're on an adrenaline comedown from saving the galaxy? A comedown... lasting months?
Besides, I like a bit of corny.

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Ya'll and wanting Tali and Shepard for the Grand Positions when its total not for the two.. especially after the War.

The most my Shepard and Tali are going to do is teach at Grissom Academy Biotics Vanguard Specialization.Field Survival and Engineering.

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N7Kopper wrote...

stuff I wanted so badly to happen.

In my game that was what Shepard was fighting for. Oh, he'd have fought anyway, he's that sort of guy, but without this he had no motive other than basic survival.

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N7Kopper wrote...


A little selfishness. Sometimes you need to be selfish. To cope with the trauma.
And wouldn't you be all lovey-dovey if you're on an adrenaline comedown from saving the galaxy? A comedown... lasting months?
Besides, I like a bit of corny.



True , I kind of meant they switched between the two a little fast, but most of it was good (which does not really say much but I am very unemotive!)

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Good story kopper. Maybe next time tho write it in a blogspot or sumptin and give us a link?

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Reorte wrote...

N7Kopper wrote...

stuff I wanted so badly to happen.

In my game that was what Shepard was fighting for. Oh, he'd have fought anyway, he's that sort of guy, but without this he had no motive other than basic survival.

Well, my guy was out to be the hero. Because the galaxy needed one, and he was the only one paying attention, damn it.
But heroism isn't always it's own reward.

bazzag wrote...

Good story kopper. Maybe next time tho write it in a blogspot or sumptin and give us a link?

Yeah, probably a good idea.
This was meant to be about... two paragraphs. Then it snowballed.
That's probably why the pacing is crap sometimes.
...probably should have made it clearer which of those paragraph breaks were time skips, and which were added for readability's sake.
But spur of the moment.

Modifié par N7Kopper, 14 avril 2012 - 11:46 .


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N7Kopper wrote...

A little selfishness. Sometimes you need to be selfish. To cope with the trauma.
And wouldn't you be all lovey-dovey if you're on an adrenaline comedown from saving the galaxy? A comedown... lasting months?
Besides, I like a bit of corny.

Everyone on the Normandy is owed a good chunk of selfishness. Tali and Shep certainly deserve some quality time together without the spectre of impending doom looming over their most intimate moments.

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bazzag wrote...

I think you'll find that if you go back some pages, me and elitepredator brought reegar back to life. We had the tech, but not the resources, so we recycled some geth parts, creating reegar prime, a quarian/geth hybrid. He's badass, like robocop.


I'm liking the thinking.

"Part Quarian, Part Geth, All Spectre".

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Fenrisfil wrote...

bazzag wrote...

I think you'll find that if you go back some pages, me and elitepredator brought reegar back to life. We had the tech, but not the resources, so we recycled some geth parts, creating reegar prime, a quarian/geth hybrid. He's badass, like robocop.


I'm liking the thinking.

"Part Quarian, Part Geth, All Spectre".



the 8 credit Quarian

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N7Kopper wrote...

Reorte wrote...

In my game that was what Shepard was fighting for. Oh, he'd have fought anyway, he's that sort of guy, but without this he had no motive other than basic survival.

Well, my guy was out to be the hero. Because the galaxy needed one, and he was the only one paying attention, damn it.
But heroism isn't always it's own reward.

That's how it started. He had a job to do and was going to see it through no matter what. Later it became more than a job, more than a necessity for survival.

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Fenrisfil wrote...

bazzag wrote...

I think you'll find that if you go back some pages, me and elitepredator brought reegar back to life. We had the tech, but not the resources, so we recycled some geth parts, creating reegar prime, a quarian/geth hybrid. He's badass, like robocop.


I'm liking the thinking.

"Part Quarian, Part Geth, All Spectre".

And if anyone makes the mistake of getting away from ReeGeth 2.0, then they may end up provoking a certain couple out of retirement.
Said couple is going to be mad.

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Hey everyone,

Been gone since almost yesterday playing Mass Effect 2. Played all the way through so I could get to Tali's recruitment mission. I just finished her amazing loyalty mission. I love playing that one. So much emotion.

Well, I leave for a day and almost 14 pages of post lol. What is everyone talking about today? I hope all of you had a great night last night.

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I wrote something very wordy on the last page.
It was meant to be about three paragraphs on how Shepard is a good masseur, but it ended up almost being the size of a chapter in a short story.
And it was all in the post.
(Yeah, next time, I'm going on a blog or something to write that stuff out)