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[Havoc10K]

If you commit to your feelings, it has to be full time.
Your theory has so many holes it hurts, but that could be because of the writing ...

I doubt they would pull off a miracle cure, but genetic improvement is bound to happen.
Technically, Quarrians and Humans CAN make babies, according to the codex there are no counters to that. It all depends on how things develop in the game, we will have to rely on BW to do it right, which i doubt they will. Hear that ? BW here is a challenge

[MadCat221]

Havoc10K wrote...

If you commit to your feelings, it has to be full time.
Your theory has so many holes it hurts, but that could be because of the writing ...

I doubt they would pull off a miracle cure, but genetic improvement is bound to happen.
Technically, Quarrians and Humans CAN make babies, according to the codex there are no counters to that. It all depends on how things develop in the game, we will have to rely on BW to do it right, which i doubt they will. Hear that ? BW here is a challenge

According to simple biology, it's impossible.  Complex organisms that didn't even evolve on the same planet couldn't possibly interbreed (aside from the technically parthenogenesis that the Asari do).  Hybrids between closely related species on Earth IRL are barely fertile as it is.

[Havoc10K]

You're trying to put real physics into science fiction, your argument is invalid

[HellBovine]

Having any sort of quarian-human hybrid wouldn't just be science-fiction, it would be an immersion-breaking utter impossibility.

[sites32]

Gust4v wrote...

Capt_Flashheart wrote...

It really is a shame we can't bring Tali to Mordin's recruitment mission without modding the game. I loved her animation where she tells Mordin that the Quarians and Geth need to put aside old grudges to fight the common enemy. If this line was in the unmodded game, some people would have a very different opinion of how Tali views the Geth.

Actually, she says that they need to set old grudges aside with Cerberus.

Hmm, this page doesn't have a pic:

HA! table top tali....sorry couldn't help it.

[Terumitsu]

Havoc10K wrote...

You're trying to put real physics into science fiction, your argument is invalid

I think you are completely missing the point here... Real science is what science fiction is based off of... Really, it's the only fiction one can get all sciencey about without killing catgirls. And if you don't get the reference, it's fine.

But a hybrid is impossible all the way down to the molecular level. Freak bathtub-grown genetic experements are bad mmm-kay? Go watch Splice to see just how bad things could go.

Well, maybe not as bad as that but still pretty horrible!

[Runescapeguy9]

Something I have not seen before, yet not 'exactly' new.

[sites32]

I see people are still discussing the quman hybrid baby.

[Terumitsu]

sitesunseen wrote...

I see people are still discussing the quman hybrid baby.

I'm starting to think that it's really more of a joke topic to irritate the 'SCIENCE DOES NOT WORK THAT WAY!' people.

[sites32]

Terumitsu wrote...

sitesunseen wrote...

I see people are still discussing the quman hybrid baby.

I'm starting to think that it's really more of a joke topic to irritate the 'SCIENCE DOES NOT WORK THAT WAY!' people.

People please it's just not possible, if shepard and tali have a long and loving relationship i see no problems with adoption.

Modifié par sitesunseen, 03 août 2011 - 10:33 .

[PhantomSpectre]

sitesunseen wrote...

I see people are still discussing the quman hybrid baby.

Well I would say that even this crazy idea is more "sane" way for Shep and Tali to have child than what was posted in this thread few pages back.

Modifié par PhantomSpectre, 03 août 2011 - 10:59 .

[Terumitsu]

Lezlie.Shep wrote...

We're gonna need a bigger gun

Here's another biology question. Can Shepard remove his helmet on Rannoch?

I don't think there will be too much of a problem here. Case in point: Garrus can come along without a helmet or breathing apparatus on several missions that take place on leivo protien worlds. So, a healthy person probably won't suffer any ill effects from just breathing the crap that gets in the air.

Remember, there is a multi-layered system that humans have to keep contaminents out of our resperatory system. At worst, I think someone might react as if it were ragweed season but nothing really bad.

Modifié par Terumitsu, 03 août 2011 - 11:10 .

[Destroy Raiden_]

I just don't like the hybrid idea because BW has already set up that eating the same food is hazardous so the genetics wouldn't be viable under those circumstances. In daily I read a story that said new tech allowed for amino to experience dextro food and vise-versa for a few hours but they needed to purge afterwards or risk hospitalization so they've got a long way to go before hybrids even remotely enter the potential stage. Not to mention Tali's immune system sets her up for very difficult pregnancy even fshep would have a hard time if it was Garrus's she'd most likely be hospitalized to defuse the possibility of complications.

Modifié par Destroy Raiden , 04 août 2011 - 12:23 .

[Sepewrath]

The whole dextro vs levo thing is ridiculous, the fact that Shepard has the magic nads that match up with every species in the galaxy is equally ridiculous(especially Asari) I think they've stretched enough, while a hybrid is technically not impossible, lets not bring kids into this lol. Even with the humans, because things start getting murky with the biotics.

[Destroy Raiden_]

Terumitsu wrote...

Lezlie.Shep wrote...

We're gonna need a bigger gun

Here's another biology question. Can Shepard remove his helmet on Rannoch?

I don't think there will be too much of a problem here. Case in point: Garrus can come along without a helmet or breathing apparatus on several missions that take place on leivo protien worlds. So, a healthy person probably won't suffer any ill effects from just breathing the crap that gets in the air.

Remember, there is a multi-layered system that humans have to keep contaminants out of our respiratory system. At worst, I think someone might react as if it were ragweed season but nothing really bad.

But according to Tali the plants pollinate by creating a symbiotic type of relationship with its host that's why the Quarian's immune systems are weak because of the plants so shep or any alien taking off their helmets on Rannoch would cause serious health issues most likely respiratory. Tali could take off her helmet on Rannoch but she'll get sick for I believe she said a month or two would be good for them to get use to the worlds the Quarians colonised.

[sites32]

Tali said even if they take back their homeworld it's going to take generations and gene theropy before they can live without suits.

Modifié par sitesunseen, 04 août 2011 - 01:53 .

[Terumitsu]

Destroy Raiden wrote...

Terumitsu wrote...

Lezlie.Shep wrote...

We're gonna need a bigger gun

Here's another biology question. Can Shepard remove his helmet on Rannoch?

I don't think there will be too much of a problem here. Case in point: Garrus can come along without a helmet or breathing apparatus on several missions that take place on leivo protien worlds. So, a healthy person probably won't suffer any ill effects from just breathing the crap that gets in the air.

Remember, there is a multi-layered system that humans have to keep contaminants out of our respiratory system. At worst, I think someone might react as if it were ragweed season but nothing really bad.

But according to Tali the plants pollinate by creating a symbiotic type of relationship with its host that's why the Quarian's immune systems are weak because of the plants so shep or any alien taking off their helmets on Rannoch would cause serious health issues most likely respiratory. Tali could take off her helmet on Rannoch but she'll get sick for I believe she said a month or two would be good for them to get use to the worlds the Quarians colonised.

I have to strongly disagree here.

I think you misunderstood what the usage of the term 'symbiosis' pertained to. Rather than having insects pollenate the plants (because they just don't exist on the homeworld), it was done by the land-walking animals that brushed up against them as they traveled and munched on the various flora. Basically, one gets food while the other gets to reproduce. So, it's likely that the plants will have barbed or sticky pollen and seeds in this case. And those that polinate by using the luck of wind blowing things around wouldn't cause any real issues aside from those I mentioned.

Also, the weak immune system was adaptive and was symbiotic toward the various illnesses present. Not the plant life.

Besides, we know at least a few other races have set foot on Rannoch before the geth decided to get their act together. That asari who's name escapes me on Ilium had a bondmate on the planet around when the robot revolt happened, for one.

Modifié par Terumitsu, 04 août 2011 - 01:46 .

[Alexisonf1re]

I want qumans.

[aiDvEoN]

The whole "generations of therapy" thing makes me wince. 300 years, assuming human like lifespan, is nowhere near long enough for their immunological problems to have acquired a genetic component. Tali and anyone who grew up on the fleet are screwed without gene therapy, since their lack of exposure to the symbiosis focused environment of Rannoch means that their immune system never developed properly. Any child who grows up there though should be much better of.

As for the whole plant thing, its no real stretch to say that when something as fundamental to the ecosystem as plant life takes the symbiotic approach, the entire ecosystem will favour that approach. Also the reason I suspect.that the quarians have hair, probably thick and possibly curly to maximise surface area.

[Terumitsu]

Well, we were given a rough estimate of 60 or so years rather than maybe 600 in reference to re-adaptation to planet life on the homeworld versus another world. Assuming quarians mature at roughly the same rate as humans, that's three or so generations in which a lot of work can be done. Also, there will likely be programs where the children will be 'exposed' to the atmosphere so that they can develop the proper immunities and such.

And I agree with the bit on hair. Or possibly quills. Quills would be kinda cool, not gonna lie.

[Nashiktal]

Destroy Raiden wrote...

Terumitsu wrote...

Lezlie.Shep wrote...

We're gonna need a bigger gun

Here's another biology question. Can Shepard remove his helmet on Rannoch?

I don't think there will be too much of a problem here. Case in point: Garrus can come along without a helmet or breathing apparatus on several missions that take place on leivo protien worlds. So, a healthy person probably won't suffer any ill effects from just breathing the crap that gets in the air.

Remember, there is a multi-layered system that humans have to keep contaminants out of our respiratory system. At worst, I think someone might react as if it were ragweed season but nothing really bad.

But according to Tali the plants pollinate by creating a symbiotic type of relationship with its host that's why the Quarian's immune systems are weak because of the plants so shep or any alien taking off their helmets on Rannoch would cause serious health issues most likely respiratory. Tali could take off her helmet on Rannoch but she'll get sick for I believe she said a month or two would be good for them to get use to the worlds the Quarians colonised.

Yes its symbiotic, but not in the way you think mate. 

Quarians developed weak immune systems because most bacteria (or was it microbes?) are at least partially beneficial to Quarians somehow. So the Quarians LET the stuff in. A human on the planet would fight it off like any other foreign matter. 

The only problem would be the possibility of diseases, which shep would just get an allergy style reaction to considering humans never existed on that planet. The disease would not even know where to attack.

Modifié par Nashiktal, 04 août 2011 - 02:57 .

[aiDvEoN]

I agree that quills would be very cool, but I don't see them having them with that helmet design. Nowhere really to put them. My real question on the helmets is why the male helmet design is shaped the way it is, sloping backwards from the jaw so prominently.

[HellBovine]

Make it easier to differentiate them in a crowd?

[StellarMagic]

Actually... if other Rannoch life suffered the same sort of immuno deficiency that quarians do then it'd probably be a good idea to go in a fully sealed and sterilized set of armor. Not to protect yourself but to protect the local lifeforms from you.

Now... this is apparently not the case because we've seen demo footage from a geth base on Rannoch in ME3 and Shepard, Garrus, and Liara clearly aren't bothering with such things.

EDIT:  As for the different helmet design... maybe Quarians have much more significant sexual dimorphism then humans.  Different head shape for example.

Modifié par StellarMagic, 04 août 2011 - 03:28 .