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nitefyre410

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Fenrisfil wrote...

My only regret with punching Gerrel is that it wasn't a vanguard super biotic punch.

 

No, no, need to kill the man just needed to remind him who was running the show.   It would have better if  Shepard excrised his right to layeth the pimp hand down and back hand  Gerrel.. but  helmet got in the way.

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My Shepard has too much self control... I have to believe my paragon response had enough hidden meaning in its delivery. If he wants to sacrifice his Quarian marines like that good on him, but you don't mess with your biggest ally...

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IElitePredatorI wrote...

EmperorZorn wrote...

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Dude needs to realise you don't mess with Shepards friends...he will end you.


He'll beat you blue, green and red. Pick your color. :P


I prefer it not being a traditional A, B, C choice of colours...


There is always the option of extending the punishment via DLC...

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When I Shepard punched Gerrel these battle quotes sprung up in my head for some reason.

"I WILL DESTROY YOU!"
"YOU MUST DIE"
"I'M ON IT"

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Rickets wrote...

When I Shepard punched Gerrel these battle quotes sprung up in my head for some reason.

"I WILL DESTROY YOU!"
"YOU MUST DIE"
"I'M ON IT"


"AIM FOR THE OPTICS!"

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"WATCH OUT THAT'S NOT CHIKTIKKA!"

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Doctor Uburian wrote...

The only renegade interrupt i took on the entire game.


Wait... then how did you stop Kai Leng killing you?

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Fenrisfil wrote...

Doctor Uburian wrote...

The only renegade interrupt i took on the entire game.


Wait... then how did you stop Kai Leng killing you?



Lol you kill him anyway, just not such a humiliation


Its just the illusive man you have to renagade if you can't manage to convince him to off himself

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Fenrisfil wrote...

Doctor Uburian wrote...

The only renegade interrupt i took on the entire game.


Wait... then how did you stop Kai Leng killing you?


If you don´t take the interrupt you just dodge his attack. And then you kill him.

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Kai Leng is such a hilarious name in my language. It's very similar to Kai Lek which means.

Actually nevermind.

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BigglesFlysAgain wrote...

Fenrisfil wrote...

Doctor Uburian wrote...

The only renegade interrupt i took on the entire game.


Wait... then how did you stop Kai Leng killing you?



Lol you kill him anyway, just not such a humiliation


Its just the illusive man you have to renagade if you can't manage to convince him to off himself


Also, i killed kay leng with the renegade interrupt :whistle:

But i convinced TIM to shot himself 

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BigglesFlysAgain wrote...

Its just the illusive man you have to renagade if you can't manage to convince him to off himself


I was a bit disappointed when TIM turned out to be corrupted by the reapers,
because I always thought they weren't going for the cliché of someone turning into a power-hungry lunatic.

In my mind TIM was always this mysterious person whose methods were cruel, but who always saw the bigger picture. And in my ideal ending it would have been him and Cerberus who would have come to aid Shepard on Earth after all of the alliance forces were annihilated during the final assault...

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nitefyre410 wrote...

Fenrisfil wrote...

My only regret with punching Gerrel is that it wasn't a vanguard super biotic punch.

 

No, no, need to kill the man just needed to remind him who was running the show.   It would have better if  Shepard excrised his right to layeth the pimp hand down and back hand  Gerrel.. but  helmet got in the way.


Would have been easier to make peace between the Geth and the Quarians. Also would have made a point about the Reapers being the real problem and how I'm not willing to mess around. If he makes such a stupid decision there, what's to say he won't waste the entire Quarian fleet on something stupid in the final battle. With the Galaxy at stake, I think Javik has a point about allowing stupid people to remain in command. His actions could have not just cost some lives, but also ruined his chances against the Geth and the Galaxies chances against the Reapers. Foolishly believing taking out one Dreadnaught it going to win his war, is narrow minded, wreckless and stupid. So best he is put out of action. Sure the Quarians would be upset, but they still need Shepards help.

Also without him to insist on attacking the Geth on Rannoch, you could perhaps make peace without the Reaper code upload, which could possibly even allow the Geth to survive the destroy ending (if we were to assume it was the Reaper code and not merely being synthetic that got them destroyed, which I like to because that actually makes some sense), not to mention the possibility of Legion joining your crew rather then having to die for plot related reasons.

Besides, I wouldn't need to actually kill him. Just leave him in intensive care for a few weeks. I suppose if I was to be a goodie two shoes type, I could get the same effect by putting him in the brig (if we had one... I guess Allers room is good enough, no one ever goes there and I like to keep the door locked).

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Doctor Uburian wrote...

But i convinced TIM to shot himself 


While I believe Saren's death was more dramatic if you convinced him, probably because of the music, the illusive man's death is the second best I've seen.  Then again, I don't think it could ever take first, no matter what happens.  I was surprised at Shepard's reaction when TIM was about to cap himself, I never thought he would have those emotions for him.  Maybe the indoctrination theory explains it, but idk.  If only Tali were to see this moment...whether it be the actual illusive man commiting suicide or me winning a battle over myself...she would enjoy it either way.

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Doctor Uburian wrote...

The only renegade interrupt i took on the entire game.


Same here. Well, that and the renegade interrupt when buying drinks for the marines at Purgatory.

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Big-Boss687 wrote...

Fenrisfil wrote...

Doctor Uburian wrote...

The only renegade interrupt i took on the entire game.


Wait... then how did you stop Kai Leng killing you?


If you don´t take the interrupt you just dodge his attack. And then you kill him.


Ahh. Lol. Hmmm, I still doubt I'd ever not kill him in the more humiliating fashion. He deserves it for being such a corny bag of cheeseyness. That and for wasting my time with his unkillableness for most of the game. Well, those and for being introduced in stuff I never read. Oh yeah and for dressing up like a super hero. Also for magically making me and my squad unable but do anything other then stand around gawping while he fights Thane.

Hmm, does Shepard still say the line about "That was for Thane"?

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Fenrisfil wrote...


Hmm, does Shepard still say the line about "That was for Thane"?


Yes, he does.

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Hi everyone,

I just woke up from a very cool Tali dream. First one ever. No better way to start the day! So what's everyone talking about?

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Big-Boss687 wrote...

Fenrisfil wrote...


Hmm, does Shepard still say the line about "That was for Thane"?


Yes, he does.


He does but the whole thing is much cooler with the Renegade interrupt.  Also, imho, it was more in keeping with character.  Shep perfers peaceful solutions but isn't afraid to bring the pain when deserved.  Plus some dude is gonna sword stab me in the back I will make sure he is dead, period.

TIMs death, fully paragoned his ass so he shot himself, was tragic and sad and a waste.  It also felt too much like a Saren throwback imho.  I have problems with the Cerebus angle throughout really because it did not fit with the Cerebus I worked with in ME2.  It didn't even fit with the ME1 version which was shadowy but not stupid like ME3 Cerebus became.  At the end of ME2 while we split ways at least I had some respect for what TIM was trying to do even if we disgreed on methods.  

But like Tali said on the base, "He needs to die."

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lomifeh wrote...

He does but the whole thing is much cooler with the Renegade interrupt.  Also, imho, it was more in keeping with character.  Shep perfers peaceful solutions but isn't afraid to bring the pain when deserved.  Plus some dude is gonna sword stab me in the back I will make sure he is dead, period.

TIMs death, fully paragoned his ass so he shot himself, was tragic and sad and a waste.  It also felt too much like a Saren throwback imho.  I have problems with the Cerebus angle throughout really because it did not fit with the Cerebus I worked with in ME2.  It didn't even fit with the ME1 version which was shadowy but not stupid like ME3 Cerebus became.  At the end of ME2 while we split ways at least I had some respect for what TIM was trying to do even if we disgreed on methods.  

But like Tali said on the base, "He needs to die."



So touching Talis reaction to shepards doubts about himself

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BigglesFlysAgain wrote...

lomifeh wrote...

He does but the whole thing is much cooler with the Renegade interrupt.  Also, imho, it was more in keeping with character.  Shep perfers peaceful solutions but isn't afraid to bring the pain when deserved.  Plus some dude is gonna sword stab me in the back I will make sure he is dead, period.

TIMs death, fully paragoned his ass so he shot himself, was tragic and sad and a waste.  It also felt too much like a Saren throwback imho.  I have problems with the Cerebus angle throughout really because it did not fit with the Cerebus I worked with in ME2.  It didn't even fit with the ME1 version which was shadowy but not stupid like ME3 Cerebus became.  At the end of ME2 while we split ways at least I had some respect for what TIM was trying to do even if we disgreed on methods.  

But like Tali said on the base, "He needs to die."



So touching Talis reaction to shepards doubts about himself


Oh that whole scene as you are watching the vids and her supporting you and being very clear regarding how she had no doubts was very touching.  It really showed the depth of her feelings for him.

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It was touching, but what pissed me off a little is that they waited for ME3 to put in the stuff about Shep being rebuilt and is he human and all of that stuff. To me, it seemed like it would have fit better in ME2. Im just glad I took Tali though because her responses work well when and make the story flow if romanced.

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Exiledone1 wrote...

It was touching, but what pissed me off a little is that they waited for ME3 to put in the stuff about Shep being rebuilt and is he human and all of that stuff. To me, it seemed like it would have fit better in ME2. Im just glad I took Tali though because her responses work well when and make the story flow if romanced.



Ye, some conversations in me2 made it clear or at least implied that shepard was a bag of frozen meat when he was found, but shepard does seem to get over his resurection quite quickly in me2, and the philisophical and other implications of being able to bring somone back to life are pretty much ignored throughout the game.



All I can think of is that shepard put it to the back of his mind for the time being in a, well I am here and I am needed so lets move on, and it all catches up to him in me3

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BigglesFlysAgain wrote...

Exiledone1 wrote...

It was touching, but what pissed me off a little is that they waited for ME3 to put in the stuff about Shep being rebuilt and is he human and all of that stuff. To me, it seemed like it would have fit better in ME2. Im just glad I took Tali though because her responses work well when and make the story flow if romanced.



Ye, some conversations in me2 made it clear or at least implied that shepard was a bag of frozen meat when he was found, but shepard does seem to get over his resurection quite quickly in me2, and the philisophical and other implications of being able to bring somone back to life are pretty much ignored throughout the game.


Exactly. Throughout most of ME2 I was thinking does anyone else seem to care that Shep was brought back from the dead. To me, I would thought this would have sparked conversations about an afterlife and other topics, but I guess Bioware didn't want to go there. It also seemed characters just accepted this too easily in me2. Tail first saw Shep and it seemed like oh, you were missing for two years, pretty much dead and now your here...cool, let's work together.

Im addressing that in my fanfic I'm working on which takes place during those missing to years. Basically the story of Tali during that time from her viewpoint and journey entries.

So I plan to address what was really going on in her mind when she saw commander Sheperd again.