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Well if the Protheans figured out Stasis 50K years ago I'm sure we could now.

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exelsis wrote...

Cryogenic fugue is either 100% bullcrap or a complete misnomer. If you freeze a mammal, it dies. Irretrievably. You need true stasis, but the only way I can think of doing that is slowing down time itself. Difficult.


Yeah but truth be told I think it will probably be easier to genetically engineer humans to survive some kind of freezing or very deep hibernation than it is to manipulate space. Image IPB

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skwisgaarthegod wrote...

Oh this is nothing, we've gotten WAAYYY more off topic than this.
Good morning by the way.


That is true. At least this conversation actually makes sense.

But anyway, I'm going to post a Tali picture to keep lurkers interested.

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Fenrisfil wrote...

skwisgaarthegod wrote...

Oh this is nothing, we've gotten WAAYYY more off topic than this.
Good morning by the way.


But anyway, I'm going to post a Tali picture to keep lurkers interested.



You're doing a good job.

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78stonewobble wrote...

exelsis wrote...

Cryogenic fugue is either 100% bullcrap or a complete misnomer. If you freeze a mammal, it dies. Irretrievably. You need true stasis, but the only way I can think of doing that is slowing down time itself. Difficult.


Yeah but truth be told I think it will probably be easier to genetically engineer humans to survive some kind of freezing or very deep hibernation than it is to manipulate space. Image IPB

Genetic engineering is the future of mankind. Since society has done its best to halt human evolution, we need to take matters into our own hands. ****** sapiens eximius. Hells yeah.

Modifié par exelsis, 16 avril 2012 - 09:31 .


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78stonewobble wrote...

exelsis wrote...

Cryogenic fugue is either 100% bullcrap or a complete misnomer. If you freeze a mammal, it dies. Irretrievably. You need true stasis, but the only way I can think of doing that is slowing down time itself. Difficult.


Yeah but truth be told I think it will probably be easier to genetically engineer humans to survive some kind of freezing or very deep hibernation than it is to manipulate space. Image IPB


Personally, I'm waiting for the technology to upload my conciousness into an unstoppable robot killing machine.

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exelsis wrote...

78stonewobble wrote...

exelsis wrote...

Cryogenic fugue is either 100% bullcrap or a complete misnomer. If you freeze a mammal, it dies. Irretrievably. You need true stasis, but the only way I can think of doing that is slowing down time itself. Difficult.


Yeah but truth be told I think it will probably be easier to genetically engineer humans to survive some kind of freezing or very deep hibernation than it is to manipulate space. Image IPB

Genetic engineering is the future of mankind. Since society has done its best to halt human evolution, we need to take matters into our own hands. ****** sapiens eximius. Hells yeah.

All evolution, as a matter of fact.
Behold the uselessness that is the non-Tali panda!
Goddamn it, why do we have to have someone in our group whom we call panda? :P Makes it hard to make my point.

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I might be offtopic but everybody else can do awesome Tali fanfiction or art...
I can ramble and pine for Tali and that's about it. Image IPB

EDIT: About the genetic manipulation... 

I remember hearing about a japanese scientist (if I remember correctly) doing some research on genetic thingymobobs ... His motivation?

He kinda dreamt of having a real talking mickey mouse. Image IPB

Modifié par 78stonewobble, 16 avril 2012 - 09:36 .


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Fenrisfil wrote...

Personally, I'm waiting for the technology to upload my conciousness into an unstoppable robot killing machine.

Oh yes, the day our minds can become data we're golden.

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N7Kopper wrote...

exelsis wrote...

78stonewobble wrote...

exelsis wrote...

Cryogenic fugue is either 100% bullcrap or a complete misnomer. If you freeze a mammal, it dies. Irretrievably. You need true stasis, but the only way I can think of doing that is slowing down time itself. Difficult.


Yeah but truth be told I think it will probably be easier to genetically engineer humans to survive some kind of freezing or very deep hibernation than it is to manipulate space. Image IPB

Genetic engineering is the future of mankind. Since society has done its best to halt human evolution, we need to take matters into our own hands. ****** sapiens eximius. Hells yeah.

All evolution, as a matter of fact.
Behold the uselessness that is the non-Tali panda!
Goddamn it, why do we have to have someone in our group whom we call panda? :P Makes it hard to make my point.

All life is useless. To call it otherwise is a massive and incorrect anthropomorphization. Anywho, life serves no purpose whatsoever, everything is as pointless and worthless as a panda. A carnivore that eats nothing but bamboo, and refuses to reproduce in captivity. Humans are equally useless, except that we also exterminate other species at an incredible rate.

Modifié par exelsis, 16 avril 2012 - 09:37 .


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N7Kopper wrote...

exelsis wrote...

Genetic engineering is the future of mankind. Since society has done its best to halt human evolution, we need to take matters into our own hands. ****** sapiens eximius. Hells yeah.

All evolution, as a matter of fact.
Behold the uselessness that is the non-Tali panda!
Goddamn it, why do we have to have someone in our group whom we call panda? :P Makes it hard to make my point.


It does make it difficult. Lol. I don't know about all evolution. There are those Samurai crabs that evolved in response to human society, so it doesn't seem entirely halted. I kind of agree about human evolution though.

Modifié par Fenrisfil, 16 avril 2012 - 09:37 .


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Fenrisfil wrote...

skwisgaarthegod wrote...

Oh this is nothing, we've gotten WAAYYY more off topic than this.
Good morning by the way.


That is true. At least this conversation actually makes sense.

But anyway, I'm going to post a Tali picture to keep lurkers interested.

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more cosplays

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iSpaz wrote...

Was messing around with flycam and managed to get shots (clipping ftw?) where it kinda looked like Tali and Shepard were holding hands in front of Raan and Xen hehe. 
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Maybe i'm just a dork and only see that? But anyways I just thought it looked cute...xp


lol

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78stonewobble wrote...

I might be offtopic but everybody else can do awesome Tali fanfiction or art...
I can ramble and pine for Tali and that's about it. Image IPB

You have to be zapped by inspiraton. When you do, sometimes it's like a floodgate.
I ended up posting something meant to be three paragraphs long, but ended up rambling for... I dunno, long enough that it should have been in a blog, not a thread post. I had to force myself to stop.
People liked it, gave constructive criticism. Just try when you feel like it, not before. It's like love, you can't rush it.

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MORE TALI!
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But evolution in an extant species cannot be stopped under ANY circumstances. It is just that in the human population, there is nearly no selection pressure present anymore. Intelligent, healthy, successful people often have very few children, while families in third world countries often have many children, and drug addicts with way too damn many messed up infants. Also, anyone with more kids than john huntsman is a bad person and should feel bad.

Modifié par exelsis, 16 avril 2012 - 09:45 .


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Ok replaying me3 now ( with a blasphemous liara li shep ).

Liara: "I've discovered the plans for a prothean device. One that could destroy the reapers."

Reply1: "We're just learning this now?"
Reply2: "Seems too good to be true?"
Reply3: "Finally some good news!"

In retrospect reply2 is the obvious reply...




@exelsis:

Damn thats a nice picture (not just Tali) ... I love the colours on it...

And... Agreeing 92 percent on the evolution perspective.

Modifié par 78stonewobble, 16 avril 2012 - 09:48 .


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exelsis wrote...

Cryogenic fugue is either 100% bullcrap or a complete misnomer. If you freeze a mammal, it dies. Irretrievably. You need true stasis, but the only way I can think of doing that is slowing down time itself. Difficult.


You can't slow down time because time doesn't exist.
Time is merely a concept invented to measure certain processes, like the day and night cycle on earth.
But it's not night or day because of time but because of which side of earth faces the sun.

So you can't change the flow of time because time doesn't exist.
Time only measures processes that do exist.

Theoretically there could be a way to halt the process that makes us age by altering the DNA.
Scientists are currently working on figuring out which gene is responsible for making us age instead of endlessly renewing our cells.

That wouldn't make us immortal however, because there is always the chance of cell corruption (cancer, other diseases, etc..).

Personally I'd feel screwed over if I was 90 years old and they discover the gene for immortality,
me being part of the last generation having to die. Imagine that... :P

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78stonewobble wrote...

Ok replaying me3 now ( with a blasphemous liara li shep ).

Liara: "I've discovered the plans for a prothean device. One that could destroy the reapers."

Reply1: "We're just learning this now?"
Reply2: "Seems too good to be true?"
Reply3: "Finally some good news!"

In retrospect reply2 is the obvious reply...


We'll learn what happened in the summer.
We should have learned when we first beat the trilogy.
I blame Casey Hudson and Mac Walters, and... hesitantly thank EA for putting the executive boot in and forcing this extended cut.
I may thank them in earnest if it turns out to be what it's cracked up to be.

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iSpaz wrote...

Was messing around with flycam and managed to get shots (clipping ftw?) where it kinda looked like Tali and Shepard were holding hands in front of Raan and Xen hehe. 



Maybe i'm just a dork and only see that? But anyways I just thought it looked cute...xp



Was this from deleted content or something else?

#43045
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N7Kopper wrote...

78stonewobble wrote...

Ok replaying me3 now ( with a blasphemous liara li shep ).

Liara: "I've discovered the plans for a prothean device. One that could destroy the reapers."

Reply1: "We're just learning this now?"
Reply2: "Seems too good to be true?"
Reply3: "Finally some good news!"

In retrospect reply2 is the obvious reply...


We'll learn what happened in the summer.
We should have learned when we first beat the trilogy.
I blame Casey Hudson and Mac Walters, and... hesitantly thank EA for putting the executive boot in and forcing this extended cut.
I may thank them in earnest if it turns out to be what it's cracked up to be.


Even the first time I played through it I caught myself thinking... "Uhm... thats convenient *slight rolleyes*".

I'm keeping my fingers crossed for the DLC though. ME deserves better IMHO.

Modifié par 78stonewobble, 16 avril 2012 - 09:50 .


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EmperorZorn wrote...

You can't slow down time because time doesn't exist.
Time is merely a concept invented to measure certain processes, like the day and night cycle on earth.
But it's not night or day because of time but because of which side of earth faces the sun.

So you can't change the flow of time because time doesn't exist.
Time only measures processes that do exist.

Theoretically there could be a way to halt the process that makes us age by altering the DNA.
Scientists are currently working on figuring out which gene is responsible for making us age instead of endlessly renewing our cells.

That wouldn't make us immortal however, because there is always the chance of cell corruption (cancer, other diseases, etc..).

Personally I'd feel screwed over if I was 90 years old and they discover the gene for immortality,
me being part of the last generation having to die. Imagine that... :P


Problem is a lot of scientists don't seem keen on the idea of making people immortal. Sad really. But I'm determined. I plan to live forever... or die trying.

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The Crucible could have been handled pretty damn well. The endgame just should have been peer reviewed like the rest.
And besides, bleeding the Reapers dry through conventional warfare would really downgrade their threat level.

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EmperorZorn wrote...

exelsis wrote...
Cryogenic fugue is either 100% bullcrap or a complete misnomer. If you freeze a mammal, it dies. Irretrievably. You need true stasis, but the only way I can think of doing that is slowing down time itself. Difficult.

You can't slow down time because time doesn't exist.
Time is merely a concept invented to measure certain processes, like the day and night cycle on earth.
But it's not night or day because of time but because of which side of earth faces the sun.
So you can't change the flow of time because time doesn't exist.
Time only measures processes that do exist.
Theoretically there could be a way to halt the process that makes us age by altering the DNA.
Scientists are currently working on figuring out which gene is responsible for making us age instead of endlessly renewing our cells.
That wouldn't make us immortal however, because there is always the chance of cell corruption (cancer, other diseases, etc..).
Personally I'd feel screwed over if I was 90 years old and they discover the gene for immortality,
me being part of the last generation having to die. Imagine that... :P

Time exists, and is a direct result of the electromagnetic force. Time is altered by both velocity and acceleration(gravity), and is not simply a human construct to help us order our lives around. It exists as much as matter and energy exist.

The slow breakdown of DNA is not what causes aging. There is no aging gene. But genetic engineering could still allow humans to live 200+ years within our lifetimes, but those people would not be us. When we die in ~100 years(if everyone becomes a realist and accepts GenEng), those in their mothers' wombs will have a life expectancy of 150-200 years, but only because cancer is a freaking big problem. By the time of their deaths, people could have 500+ year lifespans, because cancer could easily have been GenEng'd out of us by then. Ah, the possibilites of genetics. Freaking **** religious politicians making pretty much all of it illegal.

Modifié par exelsis, 16 avril 2012 - 09:52 .


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78stonewobble wrote...

Even the first time I played through it I caught myself thinking... "Uhm... thats convenient *slight rolleyes*".

I'm keeping my fingers crossed for the DLC though. ME deserves better IMHO.


Yeah, I kept thinking "Strange, this seems almost like they are in the third part of a trilogy and hadn't figured out how to end it yet".

On a side note, if you google: " "Tali'zorah" cosplay " with safe surf off and the timeline set to "this week"... it's um.... yeah. Strangely though, it seems to be everyone but Tali. Guess she had better taste. Still, what is it with some people?

Modifié par Fenrisfil, 16 avril 2012 - 09:54 .


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Fenrisfil wrote...

EmperorZorn wrote...

You can't slow down time because time doesn't exist.
Time is merely a concept invented to measure certain processes, like the day and night cycle on earth.
But it's not night or day because of time but because of which side of earth faces the sun.

So you can't change the flow of time because time doesn't exist.
Time only measures processes that do exist.

Theoretically there could be a way to halt the process that makes us age by altering the DNA.
Scientists are currently working on figuring out which gene is responsible for making us age instead of endlessly renewing our cells.

That wouldn't make us immortal however, because there is always the chance of cell corruption (cancer, other diseases, etc..).

Personally I'd feel screwed over if I was 90 years old and they discover the gene for immortality,
me being part of the last generation having to die. Imagine that... :P


Problem is a lot of scientists don't seem keen on the idea of making people immortal. Sad really. But I'm determined. I plan to live forever... or die trying.


To me it depends on how my quality of life will be.

Will it be an eternity (or say ... 1000 years) with an average relative age of 30-50 I'm ok ... But personally I don't wanna spend much time at 70 plus. Having worked in elder care and all...

EDIT: 

Regarding aging:

You guys should look up the "Naked Mole Rat" or heterocephalus glaber. It's the longest lived rodent at 28 years. Theyre quite interesting in themselves but also due to their high resistance to eg. cancer.

http://en.wikipedia..../Naked_mole_rat

Not exactly pretty but I think they're cute in their own way. :)

That... and they use tools and "talk".

Modifié par 78stonewobble, 16 avril 2012 - 10:03 .