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[skwisgaarthegod]

N7Kopper wrote...
Same here :DD
But you have to admit - it does make for sadfic fuel.
I just couldn't stop myself imagining an utterly insane Shepard. Not caring.
Or the world's sweetest dream that becomes a nightmare because it's not real... and you don't deserve it.

Yeah, if I was shep and I lost Tali, I don't think I'd even care about saving the galaxy anymore, whats the point? Tali is gone, why should I bother?

[Dilandau3000]

skwisgaarthegod wrote...

N7Kopper wrote...
Same here :DD
But you have to admit - it does make for sadfic fuel.
I just couldn't stop myself imagining an utterly insane Shepard. Not caring.
Or the world's sweetest dream that becomes a nightmare because it's not real... and you don't deserve it.

Yeah, if I was shep and I lost Tali, I don't think I'd even care about saving the galaxy anymore, whats the point? Tali is gone, why should I bother?

In my vision of the ending (as described above), the death of Tali could be handled in a similar way as the death of Thane: intensifying nightmares, Shep struggling to cope, and finally overcoming it in the confrontation with the Catalyst!Tali and sacrificing himself.

Of course, no self-respecting Talimancer would ever be in that situation.

[78stonewobble]

@Dilandau3000:
I've spent too much time pondering the ending and specifically the catalyst. With the disaster I've built it up to be mentally, from my perspectice, pretty much anything is like a bandaid on a broken bone.
But then again it couldn't hurt with a bandaid right?


A little extra about the endings I came across earlier today:

www.youtube.com/watch

When I first heard of the relays getting destroyed I think my mind subconsciously fell back to something like that. Replace persons with Shep and Li and buildings with relays. Certainly not a happy end but not entirely bleak either.

EDIT: To illustrate my point of view on the endings and some of my dads home improvement ideas.
www.youtube.com/watch

Modifié par 78stonewobble, 19 avril 2012 - 12:32 .

[N7Kopper]

Hm, living without her, or dealing with 17 million vengeful quarians?
...Tough call. Probably want to save the galaxy, then let said quarians do as they wished.
...in death, of course - not space magic p-oed quarians, dead ones.

Dilandau3000 wrote...

In my vision of the ending (as
described above), the death of Tali could be handled in a similar way as
the death of Thane: intensifying nightmares, Shep struggling to cope,
and finally overcoming it in the confrontation with the Catalyst!Tali
and sacrificing himself.

Of course, no self-respecting Talimancer would ever be in that situation. ../../../images/forum/emoticons/grin.png

Thane's death wasn't FemShep's fault. It's entirely different. Utterly. You were the only one in the galaxy who could make the call. Not even the Reapers had a say.
And by all accounts? You chose... poorly.

Modifié par N7Kopper, 19 avril 2012 - 12:29 .

[Dilandau3000]

N7Kopper wrote...

Thane's death wasn't FemShep's fault. It's entirely different. Utterly. You were the only one in the galaxy who could make the call.
And by all accounts? You chose... poorly.

I know, but don't you see? They could have the Catalyst!Tali in my version of the ending use that! "You let me die? Do you really think you're the right person to make this choice." Let Shepard come face to face with the mistake, own it, and then sacrifice himself to make amends.

My point is, you could use things like that. Rather than going "oh, Tali died, let's never speak of this again", have it weigh on Shepard's psyche. And give us that truly personalized experience we were promised.

EDIT: And then format the player's hard drive because he let Tali die.

Modifié par Dilandau3000, 19 avril 2012 - 12:31 .

[skwisgaarthegod]

I agree, using the LI would have been much more powerful than that stupid kid, who we had no reason to care for other than "aww poor little kid". In the nightmares about him I was just thinking "oh not this again" :/

Dilandau3000 wrote...
EDIT: And then format the player's hard drive because he let Tali die. 

 
And then rub powerful magnets all along it.

Modifié par skwisgaarthegod, 19 avril 2012 - 12:34 .

[N7Kopper]

Dilandau3000 wrote...

N7Kopper wrote...

Thane's death wasn't FemShep's fault. It's entirely different. Utterly. You were the only one in the galaxy who could make the call.
And by all accounts? You chose... poorly.

I know, but don't you see? They could have the Catalyst!Tali in my version of the ending use that! "You let me die? Do you really think you're the right person to make this choice." Let Shepard come face to face with the mistake, own it, and then sacrifice himself to make amends.

My point is, you could use things like that. Rather than going "oh, Tali died, let's never speak of this again", have it weigh on Shepard's psyche. And give us that truly personalized experience we were promised.

EDIT: And then format the player's hard drive because he let Tali die.

Yes, that... is better. But making amends is a bit strong. He's trying to do so.

I think he'll also want it to be known that history's greatest saviour is also history's greatest monster.
(Although my Shep would see the same way with the geth, or the krogan, or even the rachni - it's just that he could eventually be councelled out of those. Not this one.)

EDIT: And use the bug, that has her romance play even if her entire species has burned.
The best dream, turned vicious and hideous. I'm thinking "perfect Tali *flash* broken twisted corpse - and the voices of a species damning you" kind of stuff. Just really ram in mistakes you make, like killing the VS, letting the hanar homeworld fry, (if you have Kasumi that's impossible) genociding the geth, and if Wrex and Bakara both lived, sabotaging the genophage (more so if Grunt is alive and loyal)

And I keep my ME3 on a flash drive! Well, irrelevant. Won't happen to me.
If all else fails, warp reality.

Modifié par N7Kopper, 19 avril 2012 - 12:39 .

[78stonewobble]

skwisgaarthegod wrote...

I agree, using the LI would have been much more powerful than that stupid kid, who we had no reason to care for other than "aww poor little kid". In the nightmares about him I was just thinking "oh not this again" :/

Speaking of that... Am I the only one who absolutely hate it when game's force you to move at a snails pace. In those cases I'd much rather have a real (skippable offcourse) cutscene.

[Dilandau3000]

78stonewobble wrote...

Speaking of that... Am I the only one who absolutely hate it when game's force you to move at a snails pace. In those cases I'd much rather have a real (skippable offcourse) cutscene.

Yes, especially because I got lost in one of the dream sequences and it took me something like five minutes to find the kid again.

[skwisgaarthegod]

On top of that it looked awkward as hell running in slow-mo. It was almost funny how Shepard's running animation looked.

[Dilandau3000]

I wonder if that bug wasn't found because none of their playtesters who romanced Tali could bring themselves to let Tali die?

Modifié par Dilandau3000, 19 avril 2012 - 12:45 .

[N7Kopper]

Dilandau3000 wrote...

I wonder if that bug wasn't found because none of their playtesters who romanced Tali could bring themselves to let Tali die?

Me: Oh, you're paying me £5,000... to playtest how the game runs if you lock in TaliTrueLove, then QuariansDead?... Screw you, f... flight lieutenant.

:happy:


Tali: I'm not dead! Keelah, stop getting so worked up...

Modifié par N7Kopper, 19 avril 2012 - 12:47 .

[skwisgaarthegod]

Dilandau3000 wrote...

I wonder if that bug wasn't found because none of their playtesters who romanced Tali could bring themselves to let Tali die?

Wouldn't surprise me. I couldn't even watch it on youtube, I watched until she went to fall off the cliff and just as she did I had to close my browser, I was so sad D:

[Fattness132]

skwisgaarthegod wrote...

Dilandau3000 wrote...

I wonder if that bug wasn't found because none of their playtesters who romanced Tali could bring themselves to let Tali die?

Wouldn't surprise me. I couldn't even watch it on youtube, I watched until she went to fall off the cliff and just as she did I had to close my browser, I was so sad D:

I saw it on youtube after hearing vaguely that Tali dies. I was not ready for what i saw....part of my soul died. Showed it to my friend who likes tali but never romanced and he just said: "Wow....that was dark....you need a hug?".

[N7Kopper]

Fattness132 wrote...

skwisgaarthegod wrote...

Dilandau3000 wrote...

I wonder if that bug wasn't found because none of their playtesters who romanced Tali could bring themselves to let Tali die?

Wouldn't surprise me. I couldn't even watch it on youtube, I watched until she went to fall off the cliff and just as she did I had to close my browser, I was so sad D:

I saw it on youtube after hearing vaguely that Tali dies. I was not ready for what i saw....part of my soul died. Showed it to my friend who likes tali but never romanced and he just said: "Wow....that was dark....you need a hug?".

I assume you took him up on his offer?
I think I stopped at "I'm sorry."
...honestly should have stopped well before the whimpering even started. Goddamnit, every whimper but that one I've ever heard in my life made me want to punch the source.
This one makes me punch power buttons.

[Fattness132]

N7Kopper wrote...

I assume you took him up on his offer?
I think I stopped at "I'm sorry."
...honestly should have stopped well before the whimpering even started. Goddamnit, every whimper but that one I've ever heard in my life made me want to punch the source.
This one makes me punch power buttons.

I did. While he enjoys the games he's not nearly as invested in them as me. And that whimpering will haunt my nightmares forever. Never thought a scene from a game would actually make me as sad as it did.

[skwisgaarthegod]

I wish my ME fan friends were like that. One of them is a liaramancer and another just says "lol tali will just get sick". So this is the only place I can talk about Tali really

[Terrorize69]

Exiledone1 wrote...



Lmao....I think I do. Okay, a round for everyone tonight lol. I'm trying to sleep, but tali won't let me

Beautiful! <3

And Afternoon all lol back from a long day at college, where I spent all day mentally writing chatper 6 and 7 in my head lol, now to type it up and publish 

[N7Kopper]

Honestly, it's exactly as bad as it's possible to ever get this side of the forth wall.
It's nice you were offered a hug, though. I would offer free hugs to anyone who ever saw that.

You know what you should do? You should take that whimpering, get your omni-blade, (every class has one, even manguard and adept - to gut Kai Leng) slice it into ribbons, and replace it with contented sighs of "Keelah...."
Contented over what? You decide.

[Terrorize69]

Tom80 wrote...

Terrorize69 wrote...

Chapter 5 is up, heres a hug for everyone to give to Tali, she'll need your support



And because im evil, Chapter 6 wont start till tomorrow. So we wont know what hapeens to Tali for hours

Evil !

Lol I am not! Im a loving Tali fan

[N7Kopper]

Oh, by the way...
It's spelt
Keelah.
K
E
E
L
A
H

...just wanted to clear that up.

[BigglesFlysAgain]

Well sooner or later I bet you I will have to watch that awful scene, not deliberately of course,but I don't know where when and how but it WILL get me one day... So maybe I need to invent a time travel/dream subplot to explain it all... I know! Giant trampolines or stunt air bags.. yes ah ha ha ha ha ha ha sob*... and now the madness starts

[Terrorize69]

N7Kopper wrote...

Oh, by the way...
It's spelt
Keelah.
K
E
E
L
A
H

...just wanted to clear that up.

Actually, In ME2 one scene has it spelt the other way round but yeah I know

[N7Kopper]

BigglesFlysAgain wrote...

Well sooner or later I bet you I will have to watch that awful scene, not deliberately of course,but I don't know where when and how but it WILL get me one day... So maybe I need to invent a time travel/dream subplot to explain it all... I know! Giant trampolines or stunt air bags.. yes ah ha ha ha ha ha ha sob*... and now the madness starts

It's the Reapers. Indoctrinating you. Don't worry, just take a sip of your favourite beverage, close your eyes, click that little link that says "Quarian/Geth Peace Tali Romance"
and you'll be taken back to reality.

So you like to use a typo?
OK, then, our favourite character in Mass Effect is Talsi Orah.
Well, that's a beta name... but same difference.

Modifié par N7Kopper, 19 avril 2012 - 01:11 .

[skwisgaarthegod]

Well I must be off to sleep. Bye guys, keep up the tali