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[gamer_girl]

It makes more sense that they know it than that they made the-accent-and-tone-creation-machine that serves no practical purpose whatsoever. >_>

Not to mention, how is it that the mouth movement of the aliens match their words? Or did they make a lip-movement-visual-production-holographic-system as well? XD

Modifié par gamer_girl, 19 avril 2012 - 05:02 .

[Exiledone1]

Fattness132 wrote...

To jump in on the translator discussion, i always thought that all species that could spoke a common "galactic language". I assumed it would be one of the Asari languages seeing as how they were the first to discover the citadel and share a similar vocal system to many other species. Occasionally a word from native language is thrown in and a translator may try to fix it, but not work quite right (like "Siha" for thane and "Keelah Se'lai" for Tali).

Hmmm....interesting. I would have thought the Protheans since they seemed to influence the Asari as we found on Thessia, but at the end of the day who knows lol fun to spectulate though.

[TrueMadayar]

It's better to fight the odds when you have a damn good reason.

[exelsis]

gamer_girl wrote...

It makes more sense that they know it than that they made the-accent-and-tone-creation-machine that serves no practical purpose whatsoever. >_>

It makes less sense that trillions of aliens across the galaxy know english than trillions of aliens across the galaxy have downloaded the "UT english: accent PRO" edition of the citadel standard UT.

[IElitePredatorI]

Are we discussing language?

[Exiledone1]

TrueMadayar wrote...

It's better to fight the odds when you have a damn good reason.

Yeah, I found that video a few weeks ago. Love it, plus it's to one of the best Tali and Shepherd songs around He did a really good job with it.

Here is another good one. Tali and Shepherd Forever   doesn't work on mobile though for some reason ;(

Modifié par Exiledone1, 19 avril 2012 - 05:06 .

[exelsis]

IElitePredatorI wrote...

Are we discussing language?

Yes. Unfortunately, the only universal language is adorableness..

[gamer_girl]

@exelsis
You're not accounting for mouth movement matching their speech. Your logic is flawed.

The only reason they did it was obviously playability wise. But if we're looking at the details they've given us (accents and mouth movement matching) the only logical explanation is that they know the language.

[IElitePredatorI]

I see... Anyways, hi everyone! How are you?

[Exiledone1]

IElitePredatorI wrote...

I see... Anyways, hi everyone! How are you?

Pretty good, how about you?

[aRandomNoob]

gamer_girl wrote...

@exelsis
You're not accounting for mouth movement matching their speech. Your logic is flawed.

The only reason they did it was obviously playability wise. But if we're looking at the details they've given us (accents and mouth movement matching) the only logical explanation is that they know the language.

I always wondered about the mouth movement matching speech if a translator was in use.....

[IElitePredatorI]

Exiledone1 wrote...

IElitePredatorI wrote...

I see... Anyways, hi everyone! How are you?

Pretty good, how about you?

Angry... I downloaded the Ghost Recon: Future Soldier MP Beta last night and the servers were down, no biggy I can wait. I come on today and the connection is the worst I have and will ever encounter! It was so horrible I just gave up!

Modifié par IElitePredatorI, 19 avril 2012 - 05:11 .

[exelsis]

gamer_girl wrote...

@exelsis
You're not accounting for mouth movement matching their speech. Your logic is flawed.

The only reason they did it was obviously playability wise. But if we're looking at the details they've given us (accents and mouth movement matching) the only logical explanation is that they know the language.

And that explanation is illogical. Why would so many races across the galaxy learn the language of the new kid on the block? But really, it ISN'T the language of the new kid on the block. It is the language of this small portion of humanity. Mandarin and arabic are the most commonly spoken languages on earth, FAR more than english. If indians did not know english, it would be a miniscule portion of the population. So why in the nine hells would they learn that language? It is foolish. That batarian preacher on omega? Why is he preaching in ENGLISH that HUMANS are a blight on the galaxy? "humans are all racist!" YOU SAID THAT IN ENGLISH? WHY? Because he DIDN'T SAY IT IN ENGLISH. The translator MADE it into english! The mouth thing is just because no one in their right mind will take the time and money to make the lip movements for several alien languages when the sounds they make are in english.

[electrosphere11]

Hello peoples.
What is the topic of discussion today?

[bazzag]

gamer_girl wrote...

@exelsis
You're not accounting for mouth movement matching their speech. Your logic is flawed.

The only reason they did it was obviously playability wise. But if we're looking at the details they've given us (accents and mouth movement matching) the only logical explanation is that they know the language.

I'd imagine all races know english. When humanity was discovered, they became an important part of galactic society, so to know their lingo would make sense on a diplomatic and business point of view

Hello mobile unit predator!

[Cheese of Borg]

Terrorize69 wrote...

Exiledone1 wrote...

Filanwizard wrote...

To be fair though, the Normandy is a small ship. I doubt EDI would have needed monitoring devices to know Shepard and Tali got more personal.   I have a feeling they where spending more time together "off camera" once into a relationship.  even before a full on love scene I bet she was going up to his quarters more and more freqently,  would not take an AI to connect the dots.

hmmm.....good point. Makes sense considering Garrus says on the Geth ship he was there when Shepherd and Tali had their "Thing" so the only way for him to know would be if they were on ship showing affecting in public or Shepherd told and in my mind my Sheperd is too much of a gentlemen to tell such things.

Maybe.. you know.. since Tali is so quiet normally.. it builds up, and she was abit "loud" when she was "with Shepard for the first time back then that the whole crew heard them

Thump thump... (muffled voice of tali )

CLANG CLANG CLANG KLANG

[IElitePredatorI]

bazzag wrote...

gamer_girl wrote...

@exelsis
You're not accounting for mouth movement matching their speech. Your logic is flawed.

The only reason they did it was obviously playability wise. But if we're looking at the details they've given us (accents and mouth movement matching) the only logical explanation is that they know the language.

I'd imagine all races know english. When humanity was discovered, they became an important part of galactic society, so to know their lingo would make sense on a diplomatic and business point of view

Hello mobile unit predator!

Greetings Creator Bazzag!

[exelsis]

Current thread topic: Language, translators, accents, and stuff like that. On to you, Professor Gecko.

[Exiledone1]

IElitePredatorI wrote...

Exiledone1 wrote...

IElitePredatorI wrote...

I see... Anyways, hi everyone! How are you?

Pretty good, how about you?

Angry... I downloaded the Ghost Recon: Future Soldier MP Beta last night and the servers were down, no biggy I can wait. I come on today and the connection is the worst I have and will ever encounter! It was so horrible I just gave up!

I actually had similar problems when I wanted to play the Mass Effect multiplayer when it first came out. I had to wait forever. Hopefully you'll be able to play it later though

[bazzag]

exelsis wrote...

gamer_girl wrote...

@exelsis
You're not accounting for mouth movement matching their speech. Your logic is flawed.

The only reason they did it was obviously playability wise. But if we're looking at the details they've given us (accents and mouth movement matching) the only logical explanation is that they know the language.

And that explanation is illogical. Why would so many races across the galaxy learn the language of the new kid on the block? But really, it ISN'T the language of the new kid on the block. It is the language of this small portion of humanity. Mandarin and arabic are the most commonly spoken languages on earth, FAR more than english. If indians did not know english, it would be a miniscule portion of the population. So why in the nine hells would they learn that language? It is foolish. That batarian preacher on omega? Why is he preaching in ENGLISH that HUMANS are a blight on the galaxy? "humans are all racist!" YOU SAID THAT IN ENGLISH? WHY? Because he DIDN'T SAY IT IN ENGLISH. The translator MADE it into english! The mouth thing is just because no one in their right mind will take the time and money to make the lip movements for several alien languages when the sounds they make are in english.

I can explain it... game developers decided to make a universal language, so that we could understand what all races were saying, instead of having to read subtitles and listen to bizarre noises like you do in kotor.

Either that, or

[Exiledone1]

electrosphere11 wrote...

Hello peoples.
What is the topic of discussion today?

Language, translators and some other random stuff

[gamer_girl]

*sigh*
You're not looking at things in the right way. You're using a naturalistic fallacy.
You're assuming something about the mass effect universe based on how our world is.
Bassically you're saying Mass Effect ought to be like this because our world is like this.
Point is, it's illogical to fabricate a "should" from an "is".
Why is it not possible that they have more efficient techniques of teaching language?
Better question, why am I arguing when it's clearly pointless? >_>

[Exiledone1]

bazzag wrote...

exelsis wrote...

gamer_girl wrote...

@exelsis
You're not accounting for mouth movement matching their speech. Your logic is flawed.

The only reason they did it was obviously playability wise. But if we're looking at the details they've given us (accents and mouth movement matching) the only logical explanation is that they know the language.

And that explanation is illogical. Why would so many races across the galaxy learn the language of the new kid on the block? But really, it ISN'T the language of the new kid on the block. It is the language of this small portion of humanity. Mandarin and arabic are the most commonly spoken languages on earth, FAR more than english. If indians did not know english, it would be a miniscule portion of the population. So why in the nine hells would they learn that language? It is foolish. That batarian preacher on omega? Why is he preaching in ENGLISH that HUMANS are a blight on the galaxy? "humans are all racist!" YOU SAID THAT IN ENGLISH? WHY? Because he DIDN'T SAY IT IN ENGLISH. The translator MADE it into english! The mouth thing is just because no one in their right mind will take the time and money to make the lip movements for several alien languages when the sounds they make are in english.

I can explain it... game developers decided to make a universal language, so that we could understand what all races were saying, instead of having to read subtitles and listen to bizarre noises like you do in kotor.

Either that, or

by golly I think your on to something here....could it be, could it be that simple lol

[IElitePredatorI]

@ Exile.

I hope so. I was really looking foward to playing it and the controls are already complicated as it is so it would be nice to have a game where the connection is fine so I can get used to it at least hehe. Anyways, thanks for hoping lol.

[Terrorize69]

Cheese of Borg wrote...

Terrorize69 wrote...

Exiledone1 wrote...

Filanwizard wrote...

To be fair though, the Normandy is a small ship. I doubt EDI would have needed monitoring devices to know Shepard and Tali got more personal.   I have a feeling they where spending more time together "off camera" once into a relationship.  even before a full on love scene I bet she was going up to his quarters more and more freqently,  would not take an AI to connect the dots.

hmmm.....good point. Makes sense considering Garrus says on the Geth ship he was there when Shepherd and Tali had their "Thing" so the only way for him to know would be if they were on ship showing affecting in public or Shepherd told and in my mind my Sheperd is too much of a gentlemen to tell such things.

Maybe.. you know.. since Tali is so quiet normally.. it builds up, and she was abit "loud" when she was "with Shepard for the first time back then that the whole crew heard them

Thump thump... (muffled voice of tali )

CLANG CLANG CLANG KLANG

EDI to Joker;

"I believe our stealth capabilities have been compromised."