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[gamer_girl]

skwisgaarthegod wrote...

Olueq wrote...

gamer_girl wrote...

Think about it this way:
You make an essay for your teacher and you hand it in and you get a 30%
While the bulk of your essay was fantastic, the conclusion lacked as an end to your paper.
You are apalled by this grade and demand that it be remarked.
Saying "well the rest of the essay was good, why are you basing my entire grade on the freaking conclusion?"
You -> Teacher   as   BioWare -> butt hurt fans

Point is, they're trying to fix the ending and there's no point whining and complaining because if you were in the same situation, you'd try to defend yourself too.

This is different. This is something we PAY for. Something that was promised (aka advertized) completely different. We have a right to be mad. And the ending pretty much nulifies the entiree trilogy. Bioware can try and defend themselves but theres not much they can say. And Im betting the 'fix' will accomplish nothing anyway. Ill give them a chance but Im not expecting anything.

We do pay for it, but in reality it was only 10 minutes or so that was awful. The rest was a brilliant game. I agree that it kills the game for me, but if you don't think about the ending the rest is a really good game. Still the extended cut better make some sense of this or I will rage hard.

Just making the ending indoctrination helps for me, this way it never happened and it was just the reapers screwing with him/us. I can fanfic the rest until the extended cut.

Making the Mass Relays simply disabled since they radiated all their energy in EMP works for me and makes more sense than indoctrination. That and "it was all a dream" is an annoying cliche to me.

[Exiledone1]

Olueq wrote...

gamer_girl wrote...

Olueq wrote...

Ill bet Tali doesnt like the ending.

I'll bet you don't like anything.

I dont like Tali.

I love Tali.

Agreed.

[Olueq]

better question: do the relays blow up in the blue ending?

[18 Brains]

Exiledone1 wrote...

Okay, cool. Thanks for the breakdown. Sounds like it may make the game a little more interesting. I like to run and gun so always go the shield route. Sentienl with Tech Shield, plus Geth Shields works well, plus you get overload, throw and Wrap. May have to give ME3 a run as Adept and see.

Thought you were talking about ME 1 for a while, so I'll revise it.  The Adept in ME 2 and ME 3 is now considerably stronger in terms of weapon damage output (can now use smgs in ME 2 and any weapon in ME 3), and can now hold their own against most types of enemies (particularly in ME 3, with the incredibly destructive biotic combo explosions).  Again, however, I still enjoyed the feel as a Soldier with some tech thrown in (like Energy Drain) or Sentinal as you described, but that's just my opinion.  A fun class to experiment with, if anything.

[skwisgaarthegod]

gamer_girl wrote...
Making the Mass Relays simply disabled since they radiated all their energy in EMP works for me and makes more sense than indoctrination. That and "it was all a dream" is an annoying cliche to me.

I can't really do that because in mine the relays shattered into pieces. Considering how much indoctrination is in the series I can live with it.

[Fattness132]

gamer_girl wrote...

*pyramid snip*

Making the Mass Relays simply disabled since they radiated all their energy in EMP works for me and makes more sense than indoctrination. That and "it was all a dream" is an annoying cliche to me.

Personally, while i enjoy the indoc theory, i don't think that is what bioware planned at all. A compromise between literal and the theory is kind of what I want. I see the final catalyst confrontation as a test for shep. Choosing the easy way out (Control - grabbing power for yourself), The hard way (Destroy - willing to sacrafice both yourself and all synthetic life like EDI), and the halfway / neutral (Synthesis). The final test is a way of seeing if organics are truly ready to break free of the cycle and not have to be destroyed. Just my .02c

[gamer_girl]

Olueq wrote...

gamer_girl wrote...

Olueq wrote...

This is different. This is something we PAY for. Something that was promised (aka advertized) completely different. We have a right to be mad. And the ending pretty much nulifies the entiree trilogy. Bioware can try and defend themselves but theres not much they can say.

But they didn't lie.
We did get 16 different endings, just they are quite similar.
I understand being mad, but raging about it all the time becomes redundant and quite irritating.
And it doesn't make the entire series pointless. It all depends on your interpretation of what the ending actually meant.

they did lie. They literally said "it not going to be like open to much interpretation , theres going to be very few question remaining" and then we get "LOTS OF SPECULATION FROM EVERYONE"
Theres countless lies they have made.

They did not lie. You interpret "lie" in an illogical way.
Hitler said he was attempting to make the world a better place. Was he lying? No, because he sincerely believed his cause was the right one.
BioWare believed their ending had clarity as it was, so therefore they did not lie, they were just mistaken.
They are "adding clarity" with the extended cut.
They are saying they're giving you exactly what you're complaining about there being a lack of.
Save the anger for if the DLC "isn't clear enough" in your eyes because quite frankly your constant negativity is annoying.

Modifié par gamer_girl, 21 avril 2012 - 05:15 .

[forthary]

Olueq wrote...

Ill bet Tali doesnt like the ending.

She wanted more time!  

But we'll give it to her, right?  Right.

exelsis wrote...

Edit: Tali is the fastest squadmember in any of the games. Dem almost digitigrade legs! She has a ton of muscle in those things.

I suppose she is pretty damn fast.  I still think Shepard will give Tali a run for her money...but I suppose if Shepard wins, he can massage Tali's legs the next time they have some privacy together.  But if he loses...Tali has her way then.

[Exiledone1]

While the ending did suck. I still really enjoyed the series. It didn't screw it up to me in the larger sense. Did it leave me more questions, sure, did it mess up the vibe of 3 sure, could they have done better, sure but I still had a lot of fun, get to enjoy the relationships with my squadmates and more.

Just my view

[exelsis]

THIS PICTURE EXPLAINS EVERYTHING.

TALI IS THE CHOSEN ONE, SHEPARD IS HER MENTOR, WHO SACRIFICES HIM/HERSELF TO THE ENEMY, AND COMES BACK AS A SPACE GHOST!



BETTER THAN THE ME3 ENDING!

[Bfler]

skwisgaarthegod wrote...

gamer_girl wrote...
Making the Mass Relays simply disabled since they radiated all their energy in EMP works for me and makes more sense than indoctrination. That and "it was all a dream" is an annoying cliche to me.

I can't really do that because in mine the relays shattered into pieces. Considering how much indoctrination is in the series I can live with it.

In the blue ending the relays are disabled, not destroyed.

Modifié par Bfler, 21 avril 2012 - 05:17 .

[Olueq]

gamer_girl wrote...

Olueq wrote...

gamer_girl wrote...

Olueq wrote...

This is different. This is something we PAY for. Something that was promised (aka advertized) completely different. We have a right to be mad. And the ending pretty much nulifies the entiree trilogy. Bioware can try and defend themselves but theres not much they can say.

But they didn't lie.
We did get 16 different endings, just they are quite similar.
I understand being mad, but raging about it all the time becomes redundant and quite irritating.
And it doesn't make the entire series pointless. It all depends on your interpretation of what the ending actually meant.

they did lie. They literally said "it not going to be like open to much interpretation , theres going to be very few question remaining" and then we get "LOTS OF SPECULATION FROM EVERYONE"
Theres countless lies they have made.

They did not lie. You interpret "lie" in an illogical way.
Hitler said he was attempting to make the world a better place. Was he lying? No, because he sincerely believed his cause was the right one.
BioWare believed their ending had clarity as it was, so therefore they did not lie, they were just mistaken.
They are "adding clarity" with the extended cut.
They are saying they're giving you exactly what you're complaining about there being a lack of.
Save the anger for if the DLC "isn't clear enough" in your eyes because quite frankly your constant negativity is annoying.

You are being INCREDIBLY lenient and naive here. TECHNICALLY maybe they didnt lie on EVERYTHING they said. But it was clearly advertized in a way that made us believe the complete opposite of what we got. You are missing the point.

[18 Brains]

Olueq wrote...

better question: do the relays blow up in the blue ending?

Judging by this (as it isn't shown that they explode), no, but they still crap out like the others.

All The Colors.

Edit: And the above topic is starting to get a little out of hand/off topic.

Modifié par 18 Brains, 21 avril 2012 - 05:22 .

[exelsis]

"it's not even in any way like the traditional game endings, where you can say how many endings there are or whether you got ending A, B, or C." --Casey Hudson.

That is false advertising. That is an outright lie. The worst part is that even NOW they stick to that dead promise like insipid parasites. They won't admit fault, and they will pay for it with their jobs.

[Olueq]

Im going to drop the subject for Tali

[exelsis]

Can't see anymore, time to try and get tali dreams.

By vectron, keep tali in your hearts.
Hold the line, and keelah'selai.

[gamer_girl]

Olueq wrote...

gamer_girl wrote...

They did not lie. You interpret "lie" in an illogical way.
Hitler said he was attempting to make the world a better place. Was he lying? No, because he sincerely believed his cause was the right one.
BioWare believed their ending had clarity as it was, so therefore they did not lie, they were just mistaken.
They are "adding clarity" with the extended cut.
They are saying they're giving you exactly what you're complaining about there being a lack of.
Save the anger for if the DLC "isn't clear enough" in your eyes because quite frankly your constant negativity is annoying.

You are being INCREDIBLY lenient and naive here. TECHNICALLY maybe they didnt lie on EVERYTHING they said. But it was clearly advertized in a way that made us believe the complete opposite of what we got. You are missing the point.

Is it me that is missing the point? Or is it you that is thinking in an irrational and illogical way?
Nobody made you believe anything. They gave the fans something that they thought was what they advertised.  And they did give us 16 different endings, and clarity depending on which player we are talking about.

[Exiledone1]

I found this thread to be quite interesting. Rumors that the Mass Effect 3 ending came from a music group. I don't know how true or anything, but it is an interesting read lol. If you read down a little you'll see Casey even twitted abou listening to the group while working on the game.

Link To The Forum That Talks About It

Not saying true or anything. Just found as an interesting read.

Modifié par Exiledone1, 21 avril 2012 - 05:26 .

[Olueq]

What did I say? Drop the subject. its been discussed to death. The fact is: The ending sucks and Bioware ****ed us.

[Bfler]

exelsis wrote...

Can't see anymore, time to try and get tali dreams.

By vectron, keep tali in your hearts.
Hold the line, and keelah'selai.

My absolute favorite. I need a mod with that at the end of the game.

[skwisgaarthegod]

Exiledone1 wrote...



I found this thread to be quite interesting. Rumors that the Mass Effect 3 ending came from a music group. I don't know how true or anything, but it is an interesting read lol. If you read down a little you'll see Casey even twitted abou listening to the group while working on the game.

Link To The Forum That Talks About It

Haha I brought this up a while ago here. That guy also pisses me off calling Wintersun a mediocre rock group, they are a freaking amazing metal band.

[Exiledone1]

skwisgaarthegod wrote...

Exiledone1 wrote...



I found this thread to be quite interesting. Rumors that the Mass Effect 3 ending came from a music group. I don't know how true or anything, but it is an interesting read lol. If you read down a little you'll see Casey even twitted abou listening to the group while working on the game.

Link To The Forum That Talks About It

Haha I brought this up a while ago here. That guy also pisses me off calling Wintersun a mediocre rock group, they are a freaking amazing metal band.

Ah, yeah I just found it last night myself. I love the group too Interesting stuff though lol.

Another interesting thing is they mention the starchild in a previous mass effect game.When I beat ME3 I thought the starchild seemed familar.

Here is the link that mentions the Starchild?

Modifié par Exiledone1, 21 avril 2012 - 05:30 .

[Olueq]

exelsis wrote...

Can't see anymore, time to try and get tali dreams.

By vectron, keep tali in your hearts.
Hold the line, and keelah'selai.

I like that one . Official Tali art is sexy .

Modifié par Olueq, 21 avril 2012 - 05:29 .

[gamer_girl]

Olueq wrote...

What did I say? Drop the subject. its been discussed to death. The opinion is: The ending sucks and Bioware ****ed us.

Fixed that for you.
I posted that thing before I had a chance to read that by the way.
You really are getting worked up over a non-issue.
You should go drink some tea or warm milk.

[Exiledone1]

Here is the mention of the Starchild in ME1?

Link  - Blog Post
Bioware Forum Post About It

I knew the starchild seemed familiar, but I couldn't remember from where, until now!

Modifié par Exiledone1, 21 avril 2012 - 05:33 .