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#4776
legionthegeth

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ISpeakTheTruth wrote...

I support delays in this game. I want them to make it right and not rush it out like DA2.

I'd rather wait a few more months to play a great game than play a game a few months early and wish it had been great.


*cough*KotorII*cough*

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GoG ToXiC

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Aww. nobody noticed my fanfic.

I think a hologram type thing would actually be a really cool ability. But what would be the point of using it for distraction when we've already got the drone?

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GoG ToXiC wrote...

Aww. nobody noticed my fanfic.

I think a hologram type thing would actually be a really cool ability. But what would be the point of using it for distraction when we've already got the drone?

tldr ><

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I'm a fan of your fanfic! Though you were probably looking for the recognition of someone more seasoned than I.

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GottyGear wrote...

I'm a fan of your fanfic! Though you were probably looking for the recognition of someone more seasoned than I.


Hey, I just write for fun.  Anyone's recognition is a reward for me.  As long as someone's enjoying it I'll keep writing.

Anyway, I've been thinking that if Shepard's on trial over on earth, why isn't Tali down there for the trial.  I mean, I kept her from getting exiled.  It only makes sense that she would've gone down to help me out in some way, even if it was just emotional support.

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While I generally prefer the 'one and done' quick fics that people post here, yours is good. The only real question is whether it can go on. After all, Tali still needs to go back to the fleet and still won't see Shepard until after Horizon. After that, Bioware pretty much has it covered (other than that tali will be "in relationship" a bit sooner). If you can find a way to bypass this problem (possibly by stating that the funds Shepard gave changed Tali's place in the fleet) then keep on writing!

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GoG ToXiC wrote...

GottyGear wrote...

I'm a fan of your fanfic! Though you were probably looking for the recognition of someone more seasoned than I.


Hey, I just write for fun.  Anyone's recognition is a reward for me.  As long as someone's enjoying it I'll keep writing.

Anyway, I've been thinking that if Shepard's on trial over on earth, why isn't Tali down there for the trial.  I mean, I kept her from getting exiled.  It only makes sense that she would've gone down to help me out in some way, even if it was just emotional support.

Well I have loved all your fanfictions I've seen here so far, and I'll be eagerly waiting to get to read the rest of this one ^_^

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GoG ToXiC

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FourthFithsCrazy wrote...

While I generally prefer the 'one and done' quick fics that people post here, yours is good. The only real question is whether it can go on. After all, Tali still needs to go back to the fleet and still won't see Shepard until after Horizon. After that, Bioware pretty much has it covered (other than that tali will be "in relationship" a bit sooner). If you can find a way to bypass this problem (possibly by stating that the funds Shepard gave changed Tali's place in the fleet) then keep on writing!


The idea is that I'm doing re-imaginings of the various scenes involving Tali and Shepard.  I'm aiming to keep things familiar yet unique.  The whole story is mainly focusing on Tali/Shep anyway, so a lot of the area between Freedom's Progress and Haestrom will probably get skipped over.  Thanks for your feedback though.  It's always appreciated.

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GoG ToXiC wrote...

Anyway, I've been thinking that if Shepard's on trial over on earth, why isn't Tali down there for the trial.  I mean, I kept her from getting exiled.  It only makes sense that she would've gone down to help me out in some way, even if it was just emotional support.

Not with the kind of hard-on she has for her people. What people need to remember about Tali is that unless she is exiled, the Fleet always comes first; no exceptions.

As soon as she hears that Shepard is in closed detention before the trial proceedings (and thus unable to satisfy her exotic bedside demands), she'll take the first good shuttle back to the Fleet and play helpful Miss "I-Can't-See-That-My-People-Are-Suicidal-Morons".

Personally, I would love a scenario where it turns out her "feelings" for Shepard was 100% genuine quarian horniness, and that by the time ME3 rolls in her puppy feelings for Shepard has subsided. And then in ME3 you actually have to WORK to (re)ignite her feelings, as opposed to ME2 when you had to put in exactly 0% effort to make her swoon and squee.

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^Yeah, Tali is in opposition to go to full assault war with Geth and thinks Xen is insane.

Also she can't return to the flotilla if she's exiled.
And she had no problem to join Shepard while he/she worked with Cerberus.


As for romance? Doubtful that will happen.

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i love Tali :)

if i were in mass effect she'd be my best friend!

i want to see her face in ME3!

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Mesina2 wrote...

^Yeah, Tali is in opposition to go to full assault war with Geth

Right, that's why she helped her father develop anti-geth weapons. I don't know why people keep perpetrating the idea that she is opposed to war with the geth. She doesn't want her people to throw away their lives, but that's not the same thing as working towards peace. If she had rejected her father's requests for geth parts to perform weapons tests on, I would have believed this notion. On the other hand, if she hadn't helped him, we wouldn't have quite the same amount of drama on her loyalty mission.

Mesina2 wrote...

and thinks Xen is insane.

She is right. Everyone with half a brain should realize that Xen is insane.

Mesina2 wrote...

Also she can't return to the flotilla if she's exiled.

Which makes it extra uncomfortable when she loses her passion for Shepard. Fictional Drama = always good.

Mesina2 wrote...

And she had no problem to join Shepard while he/she worked with Cerberus.

Oh, she did have problems, but she could look past it for old time's sake. And that golden potential for hot, steamy, fever-inducing sex with the human guy who whiteknighted her 2 years back.

Mesina2 wrote...

As for romance? Doubtful that will happen.

It would be a travesty if BioWare continued to destroy the believeability of her romance arc by having her be the active partner in ME3. Seriously, if I look past my subjective opinion that screwing Tali is like screwing my adoptive little sister (if I had one), what really disappointed me with her romance was that it happened all by itself. It took absolutely no effort, which made the romance have no real value.

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Wanna see how the whole ' if tali is exiled going into ME3 ' gonna play out.... have a feeling it's not going to be good for her people.

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I think if Tali is exiled, it would be harder to 'recruit' the Quarians to help fight against the Reapers.

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Arcian wrote...

Oh, she did have problems, but she could look past it for old time's sake. And that golden potential for hot, steamy, fever-inducing sex with the human guy who whiteknighted her 2 years back.


Let me word this better.

I meant she wasn't angry or anything like that at Shepard for working with Cerberus, like Ashley and Kaidan( but that's because Shepard was giant derp on Horizon).

Arcian wrote...

It would be a travesty if BioWare continued to destroy the believeability of her romance arc by having her be the active partner in ME3. Seriously, if I look past my subjective opinion that screwing Tali is like screwing my adoptive little sister (if I had one), what really disappointed me with her romance was that it happened all by itself. It took absolutely no effort, which made the romance have no real value.


Well starting from 0 would be slap to the face who like Tali and romanced her in ME2.

But I do agree her romance should be more evolved throughout ME3 to real thing, but same for every romance Mass Effect.

Modifié par Mesina2, 15 août 2011 - 09:07 .


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^Tali's exile will only be of relevance if she's up for becoming an admiral, which in of itself is a horribly bad idea. If she is made an admiral (and she has indicated in her post-loyalty non-exiled ME2 dialogue that her people want her to replace her father (which is just more proof that her people are f***ing retards)), she will be important in casting a vote against (or in favor of) Xen.

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^Tali being an Admiral idea should be scrapped from existence.

She is confirmed to be squadmates and not just temporary, while idea itself is horrible and vague.

I mean, Tali said some people want her as Admiral but we don't know who and how many.
All we know is that only people who like Tali just exaggerated a bit and/or weren't for real.

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I get the feeling that Tali doesn't want to be a admiral and doesn't think she would be good for the job either. I see her more as a follower than a leader and let me say that this is not bad thing. If everyone leads it gets chaotic. The leader (Shepard usualy) needs someone supporting him, critisising him and deliver snarky sarcasm. Tali is perfect for that job.

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Tali as an admiral?

Sure, this series needs another Mary-Sue.

Blue Mary-Sue becoming one of the most powerful beings in the galaxy while still in "blue twenties" is something that pisses me off 80% times I think about it.

Making a Bucket Mary-Sue becoming one of admirals of 50k fleet while in "bucket twenties"? Hell, it's nothing! She should be a sole leader of the entire fleet.

Also, make Ashley leader of the Alliance.

That would fulfill some of the fanfictors fantasies.

Also, Tali romance has no point, since all you have to say is "DO WANT" and she's all "I must touch your skin and get sick of it". The best line you can offer her is "that's cute, but I don't feel that way". Also, it saves you the feeling of abusing little children.

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What about Ashley being turned specter. Despite her horrendous incompetance in Eden Prime, no N7 training, no biotic or tech skill edge. Just a soldier grunt becomes shepards equal.

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I think you're being a little hard on Ashley.

Regardless, there are any number of reasons she could be chosen for Spectre status.

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If Ashley being a specter is okey. Despite her short commings and no special training.
Then Liara being the Shadow broker.
And Tali being admiral should be okey. Granted it should be a hardened unromanced Tali.

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Sure, it's okay, it's just stupid. (regarding Liara anyway)

Tali being an admirable makes some sense if it happens, but she won't be a good one.

Ashley may indeed not be a good Spectre. She certainly isn't my first choice.

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GoG ToXiC wrote...

Anyway, I've been thinking that if Shepard's on trial over on earth, why isn't Tali down there for the trial.  I mean, I kept her from getting exiled.  It only makes sense that she would've gone down to help me out in some way, even if it was just emotional support.


Well do we know for sure that Tali wasn't there on the Normandy, when Shep was in that trial? I mean it's all possible that Shep's trial was private ones and strictly human matter, so they wouldn't allow any aliens in there (except maybe council).

Also it's it possible, with this whole Geth/Quarian issue, that Tali was called back to Migrant fleet some time after SM was over. Something this could explain, why Tali would not be on the trial with Shep and even that she wouldn't be on the Normandy at all, when thhe game starts.

That being said, it would be great if Tali would be there on the trial with you.

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Regarding Tali's trial, has anyone not done her loyalty mission to see what happens? I've only played through ME2 a couple of times and always done Tali's mission, so I was wondering what happens if you don't. Or does she always die sometime during the Omega mission because she isn't loyal, so therefore it isn't possible to have not completed her mission when you finish ME2?