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[gamer_girl]

Sheesh you're cold exelsis.
At least let her use your body warmth for crying out loud.

[N7Kopper]

bazzag wrote...

@ Exelsis

I just think it makes the wrong signal. Tali would not approve

Tali would not approve of your disapproval of consensual polygamy.

[bazzag]

N7Kopper wrote...

gamer_girl wrote...

I don't think they should pay the bill. I'm all for splitting it in the financial department. But if he wants to brush my hair for me or walk me to my door or bring me flowers just because he wants to, then why shouldn't I let him? We both enjoy the outcome of it (he feels like a nice man and I feel pampered).

Prettymuchyeah. Be nice. Not chivalrous. There's a difference there.

But if the man thinks being chivalrous is being nice...they are the same thing in my book.

[exelsis]

bazzag wrote...

@ Exelsis

I just think it makes the wrong signal. Tali would not approve

Well tali wears a self-contained environment all day long. She doesn't need a jacket ever!

[Unschuld]

bazzag wrote...

gamer_girl wrote...

I just think if a man holds a door for me or pulls my chair out or lends me their jacket, they're being a perfect gentleman, not a sexist.
It's not like women do nothing in a relationship. I can't tell you exactlmost women give because every relationship is different though.

Its chivalrous to pay the bill...most women (that i know) don't like picking up the bill on a date

...Which is sexism in the "opposite direction" (even though I'm fine with it). Lucky enough to be in a relationship where we both alternately pay the bills for meals, though I'm more than happy to bear the brunt.

[N7Kopper]

bazzag wrote...

N7Kopper wrote...

gamer_girl wrote...

I don't think they should pay the bill. I'm all for splitting it in the financial department. But if he wants to brush my hair for me or walk me to my door or bring me flowers just because he wants to, then why shouldn't I let him? We both enjoy the outcome of it (he feels like a nice man and I feel pampered).

Prettymuchyeah. Be nice. Not chivalrous. There's a difference there.

But if the man thinks being chivalrous is being nice...they are the same thing in my book.

That book of yours needs some notes on how chivalric niceness applies only to women, and is therefore misandrist.

[forthary]

Wow, glad im keeping my relationships limited to just fictional characters, otherwise I would be in a world of trouble if I dared tried it in real-life...

[N7Kopper]

forthary wrote...

Wow, glad im keeping my relationships limited to just fictional characters, otherwise I would be in a world of trouble if I dared tried it in real-life...

I say that although the outcome is an unknown quantity, perhaps you should attempt it anyway.[/edi]

[bazzag]

exelsis wrote...

bazzag wrote...

@ Exelsis

I just think it makes the wrong signal. Tali would not approve

Well tali wears a self-contained environment all day long. She doesn't need a jacket ever!

But tali would not approve of your attitude towards it all. It makes the date come across as a chore, as opposed to something that you want to do, and that isn't the way to a girls heart

[gamer_girl]

But would it not be strange for a girl to kiss her man's hand? O_o
Some things just aren't supposed to go the other way. Which is bad I know cause there's a double standard, but... Yeah. I think some things are more man like and vice versa.

[bazzag]

N7Kopper wrote...

bazzag wrote...

N7Kopper wrote...

gamer_girl wrote...

I don't think they should pay the bill. I'm all for splitting it in the financial department. But if he wants to brush my hair for me or walk me to my door or bring me flowers just because he wants to, then why shouldn't I let him? We both enjoy the outcome of it (he feels like a nice man and I feel pampered).

Prettymuchyeah. Be nice. Not chivalrous. There's a difference there.

But if the man thinks being chivalrous is being nice...they are the same thing in my book.

That book of yours needs some notes on how chivalric niceness applies only to women, and is therefore misandrist.

Its a special niceness, thats on the same wavelength as honor, and seeming as shepard is an honorable fellow, Tali loves chivalry

[N7Kopper]

gamer_girl wrote...

But would it not be strange for a girl to kiss her man's hand? O_o
Some things just aren't supposed to go the other way. Which is bad I know cause there's a double standard, but... Yeah. I think some things are more man like and vice versa.

Strange is awesome.
Strange is a human and a quarian together, you know. <3

And while it's not that uncommon, she needs to feel his skin against hers.

Modifié par N7Kopper, 23 avril 2012 - 01:48 .

[Thorgod88]

forthary wrote...

Wow, glad im keeping my relationships limited to just fictional characters, otherwise I would be in a world of trouble if I dared tried it in real-life...

That does make me a little sad... at least try.

[bazzag]

gamer_girl wrote...

But would it not be strange for a girl to kiss her man's hand? O_o
Some things just aren't supposed to go the other way. Which is bad I know cause there's a double standard, but... Yeah. I think some things are more man like and vice versa.

I've decided it just depends what sort of romantic you are. Me and you Gamer, we're old romantics.

[Neverwinter_Knight77]

gamer_girl wrote...

But would it not be strange for a girl to kiss her man's hand? O_o
Some things just aren't supposed to go the other way. Which is bad I know cause there's a double standard, but... Yeah. I think some things are more man like and vice versa.

I agree.  I can see that if this discussion goes on too long, I'm gonna be roling my eyes...

[exelsis]

bazzag wrote...

exelsis wrote...

bazzag wrote...

@ Exelsis

I just think it makes the wrong signal. Tali would not approve

Well tali wears a self-contained environment all day long. She doesn't need a jacket ever!

But tali would not approve of your attitude towards it all. It makes the date come across as a chore, as opposed to something that you want to do, and that isn't the way to a girls heart

A date should be an interaction between equals with romantic intent, nothing else. It should not be a man bribing a woman with gifts and favours while she intices him with what attributes she may have. Well, now that I say it like that, I've kind got an honesty thing. I like honesty. It makes things work well.

And i'm not even going to try dating right now. 7 years of education and of thousands of dollars of student debt in my future. I know what the outcome would be in my circumstances. Giant waste of time and effort.

Modifié par exelsis, 23 avril 2012 - 01:50 .

[Fattness132]

forthary wrote...

Wow, glad im keeping my relationships limited to just fictional characters, otherwise I would be in a world of trouble if I dared tried it in real-life...

Im in the same boat. Funnily enough one of my best friends comes to me for relationship advice even though i have never been in one.

[N7Kopper]

Neverwinter_Knight77 wrote...

gamer_girl wrote...

But would it not be strange for a girl to kiss her man's hand? O_o
Some things just aren't supposed to go the other way. Which is bad I know cause there's a double standard, but... Yeah. I think some things are more man like and vice versa.

I agree.  I can see that if this discussion goes on too long, I'm gonna be roling my eyes...

And then homosexual relationships, and the fact that there isn't necessarily one who "wears the trousers"
You can't really be an old romantic in a world of true romance.

[forthary]

N7Kopper wrote...

forthary wrote...

Wow, glad im keeping my relationships limited to just fictional characters, otherwise I would be in a world of trouble if I dared tried it in real-life...

I say that although the outcome is an unknown quantity, perhaps you should attempt it anyway.

I did once a long time ago, when I was foolish, when I was young, and when I didn't know anything.  It opened my eyes to a whole new world; a world that taught me what little I know today about love and the responsibilities that accompany it.  In the end, it's just not worth it here.  When I die, I can recreate my own version of Tali and love her as much as if not more than commander Shepard does.  But in the real-world?  Tali's not worth persuing.  The only leader I ever was of is myself.  And I still am.  I'm glad Tali has commander Shepard; a strong, intelligent man who can make the hard decisions that I can't.  

I always envisioned Tali as more of a fallower than a leader if you ask me; even though she led a team on Haestrom and is a member of the admiralty board, deep down, I still see a fallower inside her.  It reminds me of myself.  I think I can catch hints of it in conversations with Shepard, though im not sure.

Modifié par forthary, 23 avril 2012 - 01:51 .

[Neverwinter_Knight77]

But for the record, Renegade Shep doesn't deserve Tali. 

[Unschuld]

Neverwinter_Knight77 wrote...
I agree.  I can see that if this discussion goes on too long, I'm gonna be roling my eyes...

Really? Not already? lol

Modifié par Unschuld, 23 avril 2012 - 01:52 .

[Neverwinter_Knight77]

Maybe a lil bit.

[N7Kopper]

forthary wrote...

N7Kopper wrote...

forthary wrote...

Wow, glad im keeping my relationships limited to just fictional characters, otherwise I would be in a world of trouble if I dared tried it in real-life...

I say that although the outcome is an unknown quantity, perhaps you should attempt it anyway.

I did once a long time ago, when I was foolish, when I was young, and when I didn't know anything.  It opened my eyes to a whole new world; a world that taught me what little I know today about love and the responsibilities that accompany it.  In the end, it's just not worth it here.  When I die, I can recreate my own version of Tali and love her as much as if not more than commander Shepard does.  But in the real-world?  Tali's not worth persuing.  The only leader I ever was of is myself.  And I still am.  I'm glad Tali has commander Shepard; a strong, intelligent man who can make the hard decisions that I can't.  

I always envisioned Tali as more of a fallower than a leader if you ask me; even though she led a team on Haestrom and is a member of the admiralty board, deep down, I still see a fallower inside her.  It reminds me of myself.  I think I can catch hints of it in conversations with Shepard, though im not sure.

An optimist is what a cynic calls a realist.
It didn't work. Doesn't mean it won't.

[l7986]

Neverwinter_Knight77 wrote...

But for the record, Renegade Shep doesn't deserve Tali. 

Well instead of opening a door for her he would just find some random person and use them to break the glass of the door so she could go in.

[4stringwizard]

 Just posted this in another thread.  For those wondering when Tali actually took the photo she gave to Shepard...

Modifié par 4stringwizard, 23 avril 2012 - 01:56 .