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[darthrevaninlight]

Reorte wrote...

We live in a world with closed-minded people who can't deal with anything slightly different to their perception of normality and who can only comprehend in-your-face aggressiveness. They hate subtle, they hate compassion, they hate real friendship (but they generally seem to like the ending to ME3).

:lol::lol:
Oh the irony

[InLoveWithTaliZorah]

forthary wrote...

bazzag wrote...

Ryuji2 wrote...

Typing out a mega response to the Tali hate post Revan quoted.

Woo! Go Ryuji!

I'm sure Ryu will make us Talimancers proud.  Let's just hope nobody fallows him back here, I'd hate to see this good thread go to waste.

Oorah Ryuji! I'm sure you'll fight well!
However, the haters are necessary for we need enemies to keep us sharp.

[ichi9181]

Dilandau3000 wrote...

What is this "Tali hate" that's going around? I do not comprehend such a concept. It flies in the face of all logic and reason.

Also, I missed page 1981 (year of birth).  But, it looks like I might be around for page 2000 if we keep up the pace today.

                   no its madness pure madness

[Ryuji2]

Gonna add his statement as a quote. *cracks knuckles*

GambitOne wrote...

Before I start, let me acknowledge something. When I say I HATE Tali, it
is different then when I say, "I hate Subject Zero". When I say, "I
hate subject zero", I'm almost admitting she is a good character. I
acknowledge that SuZe is an interesting character, its just that her
attitude doesn't fit mine.

However, when I say that I hate Tali, I mean something completely different. I think the character Tali is so freakin' pointless. I don't mind the Quarians, but Tali makes me angry. Any other Quarian squad member would have been perfect. She is just uninteresting and unimportant in Mass Effect 1, and has next to no tie with the story (other than giving you Saren's evidence). It makes me angry that she of all people was brought back to the team. 

What baffles me even further is people who want an LI for this freak? Or even worse, FIND HER ATTRACTIVE?! She is a weird humanoid thing with 3 webbed toes and 3 long weird fingers. Not to mention she wears a gigantic
robot mask. How can anyone claim her cute? Its kind of scary TBH.

Maybe I should be happy she was added to your squad in Mass Effect 2. Now I can kill her. "

GambitOne wrote...

She is just uninteresting and unimportant in Mass Effect 1, and has next to no tie with the story (other than giving you Saren's evidence). It makes me angry that she of all people was brought back to the team.

I respect his opinion, but I disagree. Tali is important beyond giving evidence against Saren on the Citadel. She is the focusing lens that lets you see the history behind the quarians and the geth. Could they have picked someone else to do this? Possibly. But they didn't.

Tali gives a different viewpoint that others wouldn't consider. You learn about her family, her culture and how tight-knit the fleet is. You learn why the geth are so hostile towards organics. You learn to see her as someone that you can depend on regardless of what happens. She's that trusting of a person.

GambitOne wrote...

What baffles me even further is people who want an LI for this freak? Or even worse, FIND HER ATTRACTIVE?! She is a weird humanoid thing with 3 webbed toes and 3 long weird fingers. Not to mention she wears a
gigantic robot mask. How can anyone claim her cute? Its kind of scary TBH.

So it's not weird to romance someone with head tentacle fringes, blue skin and a freaky embrace eternity mind thing IN ADDITION to having the ability to reproduce with any species and any gender, but only have asari offspring? As well as being encouraged to reproduce with other species to reduce the chance of having Ardat-Yakshi(which kill mates instead of meld and reproduce), which not only increases the numbers of asari, but also reduce the other species' numbers?

I'm not bashing anyone who romances Liara, I am merely stating a viewpoint. She's a neat person and all that, but it just...isn't my cup of tea. I can relate to Tali the most out of all female characters in the ME series. I hate to judge, but this person seems like a very looks-oriented person. Looks are always nice, but they aren't what's most important. If you talk to Tali and learn more about her and her culture, you find out quite a bit about why she acts the way she does.

Many many people warmed up to Tali because of how well she could get along with the player. Her warm personality and kind nature attracted a lot of people, myself included. There wasn't a time when Tali wasn't in my squad. She made that much of an impact on me in the story. It's not weird to be attracted to Tali as much as it's not weird to be attracted to anyone else in the series that can be romanced(and same goes for some that can't). Diversity is attractive.

Modifié par Ryuji2, 24 avril 2012 - 12:48 .

[bazzag]

darthrevaninlight wrote...
Lol alright xD

DarkLotusXS states "
She was a pretty average
character in ME1, far too 'devoted' to Shepard for my liking. In ME2
she seems to have grown up a bit, but is still too easily swayed by
Shepard's opinion, not the kind of character that appeals to me. The LI
side of it is just weird since she is more like a little sister then
anything else."

Hmmmmmm?

Now this one i'm okay with. There is no hate there as such, only he isn't a fan of the character. I can say the same thing about Zaeed, or Jacob.

Of course i completely disagree with his opinion

[forthary]

bazzag wrote...

If they returned here, we'd prepare our shotguns and beat them (in a civilised manner of course) with talilove!

I have been indoctrinated with talilove...and im loving every moment of it.  Snugging with her in bed, buying stuff for her, getting her a homeworld...every moment is pure bliss.  At least she gave me room for free will, otherwise she never would have gotten the geth.

[MakoTrevelyan]

bazzag wrote...

^WTF!

darthrevaninlight wrote...



we should talk about this.

Garrus? Come and have a look at the airlock...i think it needs... ...calibrating

:lol:

[bazzag]

ichi9181 wrote...

bazzag wrote...

forthary wrote...

bazzag wrote...

Ryuji2 wrote...

Typing out a mega response to the Tali hate post Revan quoted.

Woo! Go Ryuji!

I'm sure Ryu will make us Talimancers proud.  Let's just hope nobody fallows him back here, I'd hate to see this good thread go to waste.

If they returned here, we'd prepare our shotguns and beat them (in a civilised manner of course) with talilove!

  no penguins

And penguins....and REEGAR PRIME!

[N7Kopper]

darthrevaninlight wrote...

Ryuji2 wrote...

Typing out a mega response to the Tali hate post Revan quoted.

Such a boss

Ticonderoga117 wrote...

And now we've gone into Troll levels here.

*silly policeman snip*

Next! *Cloaks and readies Black Widow Rifle*

Lol alright xD

DarkLotusXS states "
She was a pretty average
character in ME1, far too 'devoted' to Shepard for my liking. In ME2
she seems to have grown up a bit, but is still too easily swayed by
Shepard's opinion, not the kind of character that appeals to me. The LI
side of it is just weird since she is more like a little sister then
anything else."

Hmmmmmm?

She's just genre savvy, is all. Trusting the dashing commander who makes his own rules and saves all the people in a space opera?
Although she can prove to be wrong genre savvy, considering this is also a choice based RPG...

[ichi9181]

Ryuji2 wrote...

Gonna add his statement as a quote. *cracks knuckles*

GambitOne wrote...

Before I start, let me acknowledge something. When I say I HATE Tali, it
is different then when I say, "I hate Subject Zero". When I say, "I
hate subject zero", I'm almost admitting she is a good character. I
acknowledge that SuZe is an interesting character, its just that her
attitude doesn't fit mine.

However, when I say that I hate Tali, I mean something completely different. I think the character Tali is so freakin' pointless. I don't mind the Quarians, but Tali makes me angry. Any other Quarian squad member would have been perfect. She is just uninteresting and unimportant in Mass Effect 1, and has next to no tie with the story (other than giving you Saren's evidence). It makes me angry that she of all people was brought back to the team. 

What baffles me even further is people who want an LI for this freak? Or even worse, FIND HER ATTRACTIVE?! She is a weird humanoid thing with 3 webbed toes and 3 long weird fingers. Not to mention she wears a gigantic
robot mask. How can anyone claim her cute? Its kind of scary TBH.

Maybe I should be happy she was added to your squad in Mass Effect 2. Now I can kill her. "

GambitOne wrote...

She is just uninteresting and unimportant in Mass Effect 1, and has next to no tie with the story (other than giving you Saren's evidence). It makes me angry that she of all people was brought back to the team.

I respect his opinion, but I disagree. Tali is important beyond giving evidence against Saren on the Citadel. She is the focusing lens that lets you see the history behind the quarians and the geth. Could they have picked someone else to do this? Possibly. But they didn't.

Tali gives a different viewpoint that others wouldn't consider. You learn about her family, her culture and how tight-knit the fleet is. You learn why the geth are so hostile towards organics. You learn to see her as someone that you can depend on regardless of what happens. She's that trusting of a person.

GambitOne wrote...

What baffles me even further is people who want an LI for this freak? Or even worse, FIND HER ATTRACTIVE?! She is a weird humanoid thing with 3 webbed toes and 3 long weird fingers. Not to mention she wears a
gigantic robot mask. How can anyone claim her cute? Its kind of scary TBH.

So it's not weird to romance someone with head tentacle fringes, blue skin and a freaky embrace eternity mind thing IN ADDITION to having the ability to reproduce with any species and any gender, but only have asari offspring? As well as being encouraged to reproduce with other species to reduce the chance of having Ardat-Yakshi(which kill mates instead of meld and reproduce), which not only increases the numbers of asari, but also reduce the other species' numbers?

I'm not bashing anyone who romances Liara, I am merely stating a viewpoint. She's a neat person and all that, but it just...isn't my cup of tea. I can relate to Tali the most out of all female characters in the ME series. I hate to judge, but this person seems like a very looks-oriented person. Looks are always nice, but they aren't what's most important. If you talk to Tali and learn more about her and her culture, you find out quite a bit about why she acts the way she does.

Many many people warmed up to Tali because of how well she could get along with the player. Her warm personality and kind nature attracted a lot of people, myself included. There wasn't a time when Tali wasn't in my squad. She made that much of an impact on me in the story. It's not weird to be attracted to Tali as much as it's not weird to be attracted to anyone else in the series that can be romanced(and same goes for some that can't). Diversity is attractive.

             damn right

[Cheese of Borg]

forthary wrote...

Cheese of Borg wrote...

Lol, dont rush but I want to find out what happens![smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/grin.png[/smilie]

Rumor has it it'll involve tongues and a form of pleasurable torture.

OK dude... the first part... ok... In each others mouths.... ok.... I'm defintly up for that!

Second part... What The ****?

[Fenrisfil]

Damn. I step away for a bit and all of a sudden things started happening for no reason.

Must backtrack and catchup.

And then I got a top post and had to find a picture.

Modifié par Fenrisfil, 24 avril 2012 - 12:53 .

[TMA LIVE]

What is the overall opinion of Tali's romance? Most good? Everything you wanted? I've heard that it's too short.

Modifié par TMA LIVE, 24 avril 2012 - 12:50 .

[Ticonderoga117]

darthrevaninlight wrote...

Lol alright xD

DarkLotusXS states "
She was a pretty average
character in ME1, far too 'devoted' to Shepard for my liking. In ME2
she seems to have grown up a bit, but is still too easily swayed by
Shepard's opinion, not the kind of character that appeals to me. The LI
side of it is just weird since she is more like a little sister then
anything else."

Hmmmmmm?

Hmmmm, I would say it's based on valid points but missing the mark a bit.
In ME1 she's devoted to Shep, because doing well here = doing well on her Pilgrammage, which she is 
under a lot of pressure to do because her father is an admiral. So thus I say he devotion there is really just deovtion to the fleet, which is a part of character.

The ME2 point is again based on something valid, but she still holds on rather tightly to her convictions about the Geth despite what Shep says. She seems only grudingly willing to not shoot Legion in the AI core, she really only comes around at the end of Rannoch's arc.

And I hardly think she is a "little sister" in her LI role, she definitely knows what she like and wants.

[bazzag]

Ryuji2 wrote...

Gonna add his statement as a quote. *cracks knuckles*

*epicshepardspeechsnip*

Beautiful...just...beautiful

*wipes tear from eye*

[ichi9181]

MakoTrevelyan wrote...

bazzag wrote...

^WTF!

darthrevaninlight wrote...



we should talk about this.

Garrus? Come and have a look at the airlock...i think it needs... ...calibrating

:lol:

no not kill him rip off his arm and beat him with it

[bazzag]

Fenrisfil wrote...

Damn. I step away for a bit and all of a sudden things started happening for no reason.

Must backtrack and catchup.

And then I got a top post and had to find a picture.

(pic pending)

and its the 90s

[Filanwizard]

what the Trollposter needs to figure out is that not seeing Tali is why she became attractive. Liara, Miranda, Ashley have to sell themselves with shallow cleavage. Tali is all emotion, actions and personality. I personally felt she connected better because she was more interactive when bioware actually gave her lines.


On an unrelated note,  I cannot help thinking "Emergency Induction Port" now when I see a bendy straw.

Modifié par Filanwizard, 24 avril 2012 - 12:52 .

[Ticonderoga117]

TMA LIVE wrote...

What is the overall opinion of Tali's romance? Most good? Everything you wanted? I've heard that it's too short.

Awesome but too short. An actual date on the Citadel would've relieved that a bit IMO. Taking back her homeworld is not a date despite what Weekes mentioned, I consider that picking up the torch her father started. Still nice though, but a little trip to Flux would've been awesome, since she enjoyed the music there.

[forthary]

Cheese of Borg wrote...

forthary wrote...

Cheese of Borg wrote...

Lol, dont rush but I want to find out what happens![smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/grin.png[/smilie]

Rumor has it it'll involve tongues and a form of pleasurable torture.

OK dude... the first part... ok... In each others mouths.... ok.... I'm defintly up for that!

Second part... What The ****?

I think I messed up what I was going to say:

Tongues will be involved in the pleasurable torture.  Then again, it may not be torture if its pleasurable, now is it?  Well, to me, it would be torture, but to you...

[darthrevaninlight]

Ryuji2 wrote...
*snip

So it's not weird to romance someone with head tentacle fringes, blue skin and a freaky embrace eternity mind thing IN ADDITION to having the ability to reproduce with any species and any gender, but only have asari offspring? As well as being encouraged to reproduce with other species to reduce the chance of having Ardat-Yakshi(which kill mates instead of meld and reproduce), which not only increases the numbers of asari, but also reduce the other species' numbers?

I'm not bashing anyone who romances Liara, I am merely stating a viewpoint. She's a neat person and all that, but it just...isn't my cup of tea. I can relate to Tali the most out of all female characters in the ME series. I hate to judge, but this person seems like a very looks-oriented person. Looks are always nice, but they aren't what's most important. If you talk to Tali and learn more about her and her culture, you find out quite a bit about why she acts the way she does.

Many many people warmed up to Tali because of how well she could get along with the player. Her warm personality and kind nature attracted a lot of people, myself included. There wasn't a time when Tali wasn't in my squad. She made that much of an impact on me in the story. It's not weird to be attracted to Tali as much as it's not weird to be attracted to anyone else in the series that can be romanced(and same goes for some that can't). Diversity is attractive.

:lol: Lol'd!!! 

And YOU TELL EM, BRO!!!! 

[bazzag]

TMA LIVE wrote...

What is the overall opinion of Tali's romance? Most good? Everything you wanted? I've heard that it's too short.

Short? yes

Worth every minute? Definately

[Dilandau3000]

darthrevaninlight wrote...
Lol alright xD

DarkLotusXS states "
She was a pretty average
character in ME1, far too 'devoted' to Shepard for my liking. In ME2
she seems to have grown up a bit, but is still too easily swayed by
Shepard's opinion, not the kind of character that appeals to me. The LI
side of it is just weird since she is more like a little sister then
anything else."

Hmmmmmm?

I can understand how one can get a sisterly vibe from Tali, especially in ME1. Certainly she was always my FemShep's little sis.

I just don't understand why there's need to hate any character or (especially) their fanbases. I think Zaeed is a dreadful bore who tries too hard to be badass, but if you like him, power to you. Other than that, there aren't really any characters in ME that I dislike. It is a universe filled with diverse and interesting characters, who all have their own appeal (and in some cases, like Udina, hating them is the appeal )

[darthrevaninlight]

I think this one is really arguable

Same person as last time BlackLotusXS stated "Tali's character doesn't seem to react to the world around her, now if she were old and grey and heavily set in her ways then that would be believable; but she is young and impressionable, as shown by her continual clinging nature to Sheperd, and other strong figures in her life (her father)."

Modifié par darthrevaninlight, 24 avril 2012 - 12:56 .

[Dilandau3000]

darthrevaninlight wrote...

I think this one is really arguable

Same person as last time BlackLotusXS stated "Tali's character doesn't seem to react to the world around her,
now if she were old and grey and heavily set in her ways then that would
be believable; but she is young and impressionable, as shown by her
continual clinging nature to Sheperd, and other strong figures in her
life (her father)."

Where are you getting that stuff from (and why are you posting it here)?