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Merill is nothing like Tali, well for me she isn't... I love Tali and took her on nearly every mission and loads more! I had Max Rivalry with Merill, hated her and barely ever used her...

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nitefyre410 wrote...

exelsis wrote...

gamer_girl wrote...

While Merril's personality is cute, I just cannot bring myself to like a blood mage.

But you like a chicken-footed alien tsundere with space-aids, daddy issues, can't have sex-ever syndrome, absolute hatred for the race that stole her homeworld, and an orgasm app?

 

thats kinda cold man...


and he calls himself a talifan!

Those are tali's genetic issues, (with the exception of a dislike of the geth)
Blood magic is a choice. Like turning to the dark side

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exelsis wrote...

gamer_girl wrote...

While Merril's personality is cute, I just cannot bring myself to like a blood mage.

But you like a chicken-footed alien tsundere with space-aids, daddy issues, can't have sex-ever syndrome, absolute hatred for the race that stole her homeworld, and an orgasm app?


Your in the wrong thread if your going to post that. Blood Magic is where all the bad naming and such for magic comes from in Dragon Age, I have never encountered a 'good' Blood Mage and what happened to Hawke's mother made it worse as I have stated before.

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^Merrill wasn't a bad blood mage, in the sense that she wasn't evil. She just wanted to restore knowledge to the dalish. If anything, she was obsessed

Neverwinter_Knight77 wrote...

I didn't think that I would like Isabela. The preview materials made her look like an unlikable, selfish sexpot. But I thought she was actually kind of cute. Taking the "love" route of her romance brought about a similar sort of satisfaction as with Morrigan.


I loved isabelas rivalry with aveline. Especially in one of avelines companion missions and isabelas teasing her about her sex life

Modifié par bazzag, 24 avril 2012 - 05:59 .


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exelsis wrote...

gamer_girl wrote...

While Merril's personality is cute, I just cannot bring myself to like a blood mage.

But you like a chicken-footed alien tsundere with space-aids, daddy issues, can't have sex-ever syndrome, absolute hatred for the race that stole her homeworld, and an orgasm app?

The difference is, Tali doesn't do something immoral every freaking day of her adult life.
Also I never faulted Merril on that which she cannot control, which you seem to be doing ever so callously with Tali.

Modifié par gamer_girl, 24 avril 2012 - 05:59 .


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Complistic wrote...

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Lol I always found Merrill to be the Medievil/Fantasy twin of Tali


They're really not. Merrill is more like liara in ME1.

They are both the innocent, cute, naive relationships who talk to much when they get nervous, i'd say they have alot in common. But I can see why people would prefer to see otherwise.

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If there is a tali in DA, it's her

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bazzag wrote...

nitefyre410 wrote...

exelsis wrote...

gamer_girl wrote...

While Merril's personality is cute, I just cannot bring myself to like a blood mage.

But you like a chicken-footed alien tsundere with space-aids, daddy issues, can't have sex-ever syndrome, absolute hatred for the race that stole her homeworld, and an orgasm app?

 

thats kinda cold man...


and he calls himself a talifan!

Those are tali's genetic issues, (with the exception of a dislike of the geth)
Blood magic is a choice. Like turning to the dark side


Yet she becomes attached to Legion and even misses him.

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bazzag wrote...

Neverwinter_Knight77 wrote...

I didn't think that I would like Isabela. The preview materials made her look like an unlikable, selfish sexpot. But I thought she was actually kind of cute. Taking the "love" route of her romance brought about a similar sort of satisfaction as with Morrigan.


I loved isabelas rivalry with aveline. Especially in one of avelines companion missions and isabelas teasing her about her sex life


And you could tell that Aveline came to care about her as a friend.

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Complistic wrote...

If there is a tali in DA, it's her

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Wut...

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IElitePredatorI wrote...

bazzag wrote...

nitefyre410 wrote...

exelsis wrote...

gamer_girl wrote...

While Merril's personality is cute, I just cannot bring myself to like a blood mage.

But you like a chicken-footed alien tsundere with space-aids, daddy issues, can't have sex-ever syndrome, absolute hatred for the race that stole her homeworld, and an orgasm app?

 

thats kinda cold man...


and he calls himself a talifan!

Those are tali's genetic issues, (with the exception of a dislike of the geth)
Blood magic is a choice. Like turning to the dark side


Yet she becomes attached to Legion and even misses him.


I know that, but i was counter arguing exelsis, and her race hatred isn't genetic, therefore it cannot be generalised

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I think everyone missed my point. My point was with all of tali's percieved flaws, they don't make her any less desirable. They made her more human, realistic, and lovable. And you seem to hate someone just for being a blood mage. I never played DA2, so I don't know, but she probably has a really good reason for practising forbidden magic.

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Modifié par exelsis, 24 avril 2012 - 06:04 .


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IMO...

Miranda = Morrigan
Tali = Merrill
Ashley = Isabella (kinda)
Liara = Leliana

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bazzag wrote...

^Merrill wasn't a bad blood mage, in the sense that she wasn't evil. She just wanted to restore knowledge to the dalish. If anything, she was obsessed

But blood magic in itself is intrinsically bad.
The comparison of her to Tali that exelsis made kind of makes me sick.
Tali being wary of the non organic species that conquered her homeworld is not intrinsically bad.

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Terrorize69 wrote...

IMO...

Miranda = Morrigan
Tali = Tali
Ashley = Isabella (kinda)
Liara = Leliana


Fixed for me.

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Modifié par IElitePredatorI, 24 avril 2012 - 06:05 .


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bazzag wrote...

^Merrill wasn't a bad blood mage, in the sense that she wasn't evil. She just wanted to restore knowledge to the dalish. If anything, she was obsessed

Neverwinter_Knight77 wrote...

I didn't think that I would like Isabela. The preview materials made her look like an unlikable, selfish sexpot. But I thought she was actually kind of cute. Taking the "love" route of her romance brought about a similar sort of satisfaction as with Morrigan.


I loved isabelas rivalry with aveline. Especially in one of avelines companion missions and isabelas teasing her about her sex life

 

Bolded for  TRUTH... 

Isabellas and Aveline Rivarly was the best part  of that game... Had me in laughing the whole time through. 

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Blood Magic corrupts, even if she did have good motives she would eventually be corrupted or a demon would manipulate her.

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Terrorize69 wrote...

IMO...

Miranda = Morrigan
Tali = Merrill
Ashley = Isabella (kinda)
Liara = Leliana

only if ashley ****ed every single thing that moved

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THAT'S IT. THE GUDDAMN ME3 ENDING...

Blood magic....

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exelsis wrote...

I think everyone missed my point. My point was with all of tali's percieved flaws, they don't make her any less desirable. They made her more human, realistic, and lovable. And you seem to hate someone just for being a blood mage. I never played DA2, so I don't know, but she probably has a really good reason for practising forbidden magic.

Then, not gonna lie, you should probably stuff a sock in it and not try to talk about things you know not of and act as if you do. It's a very big annoyance.

Not to mention you compared Tali's flaws that aren't even worth mentioning to a blood mage (blood magic NEVER has the right motives).

And just so you know, Merril's motives were to study an ancient, but very dangerous Dalish mirror that killed other Dalish in the past and was destroyed by your grey warden in DA:O if you were a Dalish Elf. Ergo - terrible motive.

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l7986 wrote...

Terrorize69 wrote...

IMO...

Miranda = Morrigan
Tali = Merrill
Ashley = Isabella (kinda)
Liara = Leliana

only if ashley ****ed every single thing that moved

;) Who knows what she did in them 2years lol

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gamer_girl wrote...

bazzag wrote...

^Merrill wasn't a bad blood mage, in the sense that she wasn't evil. She just wanted to restore knowledge to the dalish. If anything, she was obsessed

But blood magic in itself is intrinsically bad.
The comparison of her to Tali that exelsis made kind of makes me sick.
Tali being wary of the non organic species that conquered her homeworld is not intrinsically bad.

What makes blood magic intrinsically bad? Do you have to sacrifice sentients in order to harness that power? And what makes it worse than living your whole life to destroy a sentient species? I know that once she meets legion, she figures out that the geth aren't evil, but she still wanted to kill them all for most of her life.

And gamer, you are being black and white. Morality is not a dichotomy, but a scale.

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gamer_girl wrote...

bazzag wrote...

^Merrill wasn't a bad blood mage, in the sense that she wasn't evil. She just wanted to restore knowledge to the dalish. If anything, she was obsessed

But blood magic in itself is intrinsically bad.
The comparison of her to Tali that exelsis made kind of makes me sick.
Tali being wary of the non organic species that conquered her homeworld is not intrinsically bad.


Blood magic is bad. But my point was Merrill didn't turn to blood magic because she was evil, and wanted power, like Uldred in origins. She was doing what she thought was best for the dalish. Trying to restore what was lost to them.

I agree with you tho. You cannot make that kind of comparison when one side is choice and the other isn't

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gamer_girl wrote...

exelsis wrote...

I think everyone missed my point. My point was with all of tali's percieved flaws, they don't make her any less desirable. They made her more human, realistic, and lovable. And you seem to hate someone just for being a blood mage. I never played DA2, so I don't know, but she probably has a really good reason for practising forbidden magic.

Then, not gonna lie, you should probably stuff a sock in it and not try to talk about things you know not of and act as if you do. It's a very big annoyance.

Not to mention you compared Tali's flaws that aren't even worth mentioning to a blood mage (blood magic NEVER has the right motives).

And just so you know, Merril's motives were to study an ancient, but very dangerous Dalish mirror that killed other Dalish in the past and was destroyed by your grey warden in DA:O if you were a Dalish Elf. Ergo - terrible motive.


Well put Gamer!