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[Nashiktal]

Tali is 25 years old if the ME timeline is correct.

[78stonewobble]

Cam-Tal wrote...

How old is Tali in the game anyway? I would assume about early 20's seeing as she was on her pilgrimage in the first ME

I don't know if it's stated anywhere actually. Was wondering that myself the other day and guess early 20's as well.

Would depend on the age that quarians leave for pilgrimage. Maybe it's not human 15 years eg. but more like human 18 years.

And the pilgrimage could last years...


I kinda like the pilgrimage concept though. Inspired from amish tradition of "rumspringa" (or whatever it's called)? Theres also a rare but still continuing tradition for some craftsmen in europe (denmark) to do a somewhat pilgrimage like travel where they learn and travel far and about. I can't remember the name for that though.

[Nashiktal]

Alienmorph wrote...

Cam-Tal wrote...

How old is Tali in the game anyway? I would assume about early 20's seeing as she was on her pilgrimage in the first ME


My shep looks around 40, so it's a weird relationship  

In ME2 Tali is 24 and Shepard 31, nothing excessive.

Actually 25-ish. Its the year 2186 now. Luckily its not too creepy with shep now that s/he lost two years. 

Modifié par Nashiktal, 19 juin 2011 - 07:22 .

[sites32]

Whatever the outcome may be, taking back the homeworld or settling in a new enviroment. It will not be easy, and that sucks. I feel they've payed enough for their mistake. The lose of their would and on the brink of extinction. And every other race looks down on them and treats them as second class citizens. Makes you think.

[78stonewobble]

Alienmorph wrote...

Cam-Tal wrote...

How old is Tali in the game anyway? I would assume about early 20's seeing as she was on her pilgrimage in the first ME


My shep looks around 40, so it's a weird relationship  

In ME2 Tali is 24 and Shepard 31, nothing excessive.

Great news ... Can finally drop the slightly icky paedo feeling I was running around with. ...

[Cam-Tal]

Alienmorph wrote...

Cam-Tal wrote...

How old is Tali in the game anyway? I would assume about early 20's seeing as she was on her pilgrimage in the first ME


My shep looks around 40, so it's a weird relationship  

In ME2 Tali is 24 and Shepard 31, nothing excessive.

Yeah, but if you see my Shep, you'd think he was like 40 

I go around expecting people to ask me if i'm her chaperone or something. 

Modifié par Cam-Tal, 19 juin 2011 - 07:26 .

[MR N1C3GUY29]

Alienmorph wrote...

Cam-Tal wrote...

How old is Tali in the game anyway? I would assume about early 20's seeing as she was on her pilgrimage in the first ME


My shep looks around 40, so it's a weird relationship  

In ME2 Tali is 24 and Shepard 31, nothing excessive.

where did you go to look up there ages

[Nashiktal]

sitesunseen wrote...

Whatever the outcome may be, taking back the homeworld or settling in a new enviroment. It will not be easy, and that sucks. I feel they've payed enough for their mistake. The lose of their would and on the brink of extinction. And every other race looks down on them and treats them as second class citizens. Makes you think.

Well to be fair the Quarians don't exactly help their reputation any. Any system they hit, they strip it of as many resources as they can before moving on, no matter who it belongs to.

And they can't exactly do that in the terminous systems.

[78stonewobble]

Nashiktal wrote...

I would assume its mostly correct, well accept for that 600 years sillyness. No matter what the Quarian people will need genetic therapy to help addapt to whatever environe they live in.

Though there is room for some creativity there...

If we assume that that statement is somewhat based on the fact that last time the quarians saw their world it was an utter warzone. In the time inbetween the geth have been tending that world.

Yaddah yaddah... geth made the world match their creators on ship biology as a peace offering that they kept handy .... yaddah ...

Be glad I'm not writing the story ...

[Nashiktal]

MR N1C3GUY29 wrote...

Alienmorph wrote...

Cam-Tal wrote...

How old is Tali in the game anyway? I would assume about early 20's seeing as she was on her pilgrimage in the first ME


My shep looks around 40, so it's a weird relationship  

In ME2 Tali is 24 and Shepard 31, nothing excessive.

where did you go to look up there ages

Nowhere specifically says Tali's age, but you can find when Tali was born. which is 2161.

[78stonewobble]

Nashiktal wrote...

sitesunseen wrote...

Whatever the outcome may be, taking back the homeworld or settling in a new enviroment. It will not be easy, and that sucks. I feel they've payed enough for their mistake. The lose of their would and on the brink of extinction. And every other race looks down on them and treats them as second class citizens. Makes you think.

Well to be fair the Quarians don't exactly help their reputation any. Any system they hit, they strip it of as many resources as they can before moving on, no matter who it belongs to.

And they can't exactly do that in the terminous systems.

Hmmm I haven't really read / heard they stripmined other peoples planets?

Sure I head that a friendly visit from around 10 millions cheap labourers weren't nice to the local economy but that was about it... I didn't really get the impression that they were immoral as such... just a huge ass burden...

[sites32]

Yeah i understand that. But i would do the same if i was in that situation. Do what u have to do to keep your people and family alive. It may not seem right but we all have to deal with the hand we are delt with.

[Nashiktal]

78stonewobble wrote...

Nashiktal wrote...

sitesunseen wrote...

Whatever the outcome may be, taking back the homeworld or settling in a new enviroment. It will not be easy, and that sucks. I feel they've payed enough for their mistake. The lose of their would and on the brink of extinction. And every other race looks down on them and treats them as second class citizens. Makes you think.

Well to be fair the Quarians don't exactly help their reputation any. Any system they hit, they strip it of as many resources as they can before moving on, no matter who it belongs to.

And they can't exactly do that in the terminous systems.

Hmmm I haven't really read / heard they stripmined other peoples planets?

Sure I head that a friendly visit from around 10 millions cheap labourers weren't nice to the local economy but that was about it... I didn't really get the impression that they were immoral as such... just a huge ass burden...

Nah they do. Not inhabited planets of course, but if they are in the system its open game for them. They are not technically part of the citadel space, and they do not belong to the terminous systems.

Plus they clog up mass relay travel for weeks at a time as they use it. All around they are a big problem for civilized space.

[sites32]

Thats why tali is so passionate about her people, and their situation.

[Alienmorph]

MR N1C3GUY29 wrote...

Alienmorph wrote...

Cam-Tal wrote...

How old is Tali in the game anyway? I would assume about early 20's seeing as she was on her pilgrimage in the first ME


My shep looks around 40, so it's a weird relationship  

In ME2 Tali is 24 and Shepard 31, nothing excessive.

where did you go to look up there ages

Tali's profile in the ME2's homepage. And of Shepard there's the year of birth in the codex, so it's nothing faked or speculative

[Pride Demon]

Nashiktal wrote...

78stonewobble wrote...

Hmmm I haven't really read / heard they stripmined other peoples planets?

Sure I head that a friendly visit from around 10 millions cheap labourers weren't nice to the local economy but that was about it... I didn't really get the impression that they were immoral as such... just a huge ass burden...

Nah they do. Not inhabited planets of course, but if they are in the system its open game for them. They are not technically part of the citadel space, and they do not belong to the terminous systems.

Plus they clog up mass relay travel for weeks at a time as they use it. All around they are a big problem for civilized space.

That may be true from a certain point of view...
However it's also true that it's a problem that could have just as easily been avoided altogether if, when the Quarians asked for help against the Geth, the Council had actually done something instead of putting on shades and shout "Deal with it!"...
And it could have been just as easily mended a long time ago had the Council allowed them to settle in another world instead of throwing out threats of bombarding them (threats that were completely illegal following council law that the Council should uphold, but that's another story)...

The Quarians cause trouble, that's true, but that is really the only way they can act given their situation, and this result was actually pretty predictable: it was either this or they would have gone extinct...
How could the Council not expect the Quarians to become what they became is beyond me... Turians and Salarians may not have thought about it (though I doubt it), but aren't the Asari supposed to have perspective everyone else lacks with their long lives?
Unless of course we imply the Council hoped the Quarians would go extinct... :/

[78stonewobble]

Hmm I think maybe thats overdoing it a bit from biowares side... Stripmining of planets owned by someone else.

Now presumably habitable planets are quite rare but quarians don't need those for resources. Since theyre pretty much mobile they wouldn't need to strip a system/planet right next to an established colony or homeworld either.

So yes annoyance but a severe problem?

Just freely speculating here since I can't remember any ingame information about this right now.

[Cam-Tal]

 Is the flotilla a sterile environment onboard?

(Sorry if I say something stupid, i haven't played ME2 in about a month so I can't remember if it's mentioned) 

[Nashiktal]

Pride Demon wrote...

Nashiktal wrote...

78stonewobble wrote...

Hmmm I haven't really read / heard they stripmined other peoples planets?

Sure I head that a friendly visit from around 10 millions cheap labourers weren't nice to the local economy but that was about it... I didn't really get the impression that they were immoral as such... just a huge ass burden...

Nah they do. Not inhabited planets of course, but if they are in the system its open game for them. They are not technically part of the citadel space, and they do not belong to the terminous systems.

Plus they clog up mass relay travel for weeks at a time as they use it. All around they are a big problem for civilized space.

That may be true from a certain point of view...
However it's also true that it's a problem that could have just as easily been avoided altogether if, when the Quarians asked for help against the Geth, the Council had actually done something instead of putting on shades and shout "Deal with it!"...
And it could have been just as easily mended a long time ago had the Council allowed them to settle in another world instead of throwing out threats of bombarding them (threats that were completely illegal following council law that the Council should uphold, but that's another story)...

The Quarians cause trouble, that's true, but that is really the only way they can act given their situation, and this result was actually pretty predictable: it was either this or they would have gone extinct...
How could the Council not expect the Quarians to become what they became is beyond me... Turians and Salarians may not have thought about it (though I doubt it), but aren't the Asari supposed to have perspective everyone else lacks with their long lives?
Unless of course we imply the Council hoped the Quarians would go extinct... :/

What? While everything you said its true, that in no way negates what I said. The Quarians are trouble for civilized space, no matter what kind of injustice may have been caused to them.

You must remember they could have just as easily been looking for a new homeworld all these centuries, a place to settle down in uninhabited space. Instead they still wander the stars, occasionally passing through occupied territory, take resources of said territory (luckily without being attacked, i'm surprised war wasn't declared on them already, or at least some sort of censure)

I am not saying the Quarians are evil, or innocent or anything, but I was just stating the facts. Where Quarians go, they are trouble. They clog traffic for weeks, they take resources, they take jobs that wreck economies, trouble. With a T.

[Pride Demon]

Cam-Tal wrote...

 Is the flotilla a sterile environment onboard?

(Sorry if I say something stupid, i haven't played ME2 in about a month so I can't remember if it's mentioned) 

More sterile than a normal environment would be, yes... But if you are asking if they are completely sterile, then no, given the great number of Quarians on the ships, the amount of salvage a ship holds and the fact some ships contain crops and organic waste it's inevitable some bacteria would be around... Sterilizing completely all that stuff is too resource intensive to be efficient...

There are however some places that are completely sterilized: "Clean-rooms" are in almost every ship and then there are specifically equipped "Clean-ships"...
They are used by Quarians for tasks that require suit removal, like treatment of illnesses and injuries, taking showers, mating and childbirth...

That's what I remember anyway, don't know if I'm wrong...

[Alienmorph]

Cam-Tal wrote...

Is the flotilla a sterile environment onboard?

(Sorry if I say something stupid, i haven't played ME2 in about a month so I can't remember if it's mentioned) {smilie}

It's cleaner than a planetary surface, but off course it's impossible to keep perfectly sterile the environment on a so big number of ships, especially considered that thei're overpopulated too. I guess that there are specially controlled environments aboard for the out-of-the-suits interaction, but quarians can't just toggle off their helmets in a random room without consequences.

EDIT - Whoops, ninja'd by Pride

Modifié par Alienmorph, 19 juin 2011 - 08:14 .

[sites32]

From what i understand from ingame when the flotilla allows a ship access it has to be cleaned or sterilized. Maybe not completely, maybe just the crew members who want to enter the ships

[Alienmorph]

sitesunseen wrote...

From what i understand from ingame when the flotilla allows a ship access it has to be cleaned or sterilized. Maybe not completely, maybe just the crew members who want to enter the ships

Nope, ship and crew are properly sterilized, to avoid that foreign contaminants reach the quarians on the Fleet, but this doesn't mean that the whole Flottilla is sterile.

[Pride Demon]

Nashiktal wrote...

What? While everything you said its true, that in no way negates what I said. The Quarians are trouble for civilized space, no matter what kind of injustice may have been caused to them.

You must remember they could have just as easily been looking for a new homeworld all these centuries, a place to settle down in uninhabited space. Instead they still wander the stars, occasionally passing through occupied territory, take resources of said territory (luckily without being attacked, i'm surprised war wasn't declared on them already, or at least some sort of censure)

I am not saying the Quarians are evil, or innocent or anything, but I was just stating the facts. Where Quarians go, they are trouble. They clog traffic for weeks, they take resources, they take jobs that wreck economies, trouble. With a T.

Cool man, I was not attacking your argument! ;P
Actually I was agreeing with you, just stating that I find it something that could have been avoided...
The Council complains, but they too are one of the reasons the Quarians are as they are...

Also the Quarians DID try to settle down... On a planet named Ekuna, around 80-90 years before the story of ME begins...

They asked the council for colonization rights, but they had already settled a few hundred thousand before asking; given this the Council gave the world (which was a pretty second tier garden world anyway) to the Elcor and threaten to orbital bombard the Quarian colonies if they hadn't left in one standard month...

All this action from the Council was pretty illegal following council law, but I won't elaborate unless you ask, since it's a different topic than what we are talking about now...

Modifié par Pride Demon, 19 juin 2011 - 08:24 .

[HellBovine]

Thats why I always strip mine that planet out of principle.