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[sites32]

I didn't know they tried to settle a world and got cut off . I'm curious

[sites32]

We need more tali pics here anyone?

[Pride Demon]

sitesunseen wrote...

I didn't know they tried to settle a world and got cut off . I'm curious

Here's the planet description: Ekuna

As for why the acts of the Council were illegal (slight rant):

- Ekuna is in the Salahiel System, which in turn is in the Phoenix Massing cluster;
- The Phoenix Massing borders the Perseus Veil;
- The Perseus Veil separates Geth (formerly Quarian) space from the Terminus Systems, it doesn't border anything else;
- Since Aite is also in the Phoenix Massing and I doubt Quarians would be so stupid as to settle in Geth space, that means the Phoenix Massing (and thus Ekuna) is in the Terminus System;

This alone delegitimates not only the act of taking the world from the Quarians, but also the act of summarily giving it to the Elcor: the Terminus doesn't abide or even recognise the Council's authority, they have no right to decide anything about it!
I'm amazed the Terminus powers didn't immediately attack the Elcor colony just to show the Council that's their turf...

Also, by that time the Quarians weren't even a Council race anymore, so the very fact they even asked the Council was an act of coutesy... All the other rogue states in Terminus space simply take whatever planets they want...
Take the batarians, for instance: do you think they still ask the council for legitimation in taking planets in Terminus space? I mean, they didn't asked for Aratoht, and Aratoht is in the Skillian Verge (which actually is Council space)...

This also shows double standard towards both Quarians AND us Humans:

- Patrolling requires Cruisers bolstered by wolfpack flottillas of Frigates;
- Dreadnoughts are required to bombard planets;
- Ekuna is in the Terminus;
- The Attican Traverse borders the Terminus, but still is Council Space;

See what I mean? When Saren attacked us, the Council was unwilling to send simple patrols in the Attican traverse (which still is Council space) to protect us, for fear the Terminus will declare war...
However, a hundred years earlier they were willing to send Dreadnoughts INTO the actual Terminus to bombard a planet...

Because that would totally NOT cause a war... Yeah...

Not to mention that by bombarding the planet they could have caused the Quarians to go extinct, and would have done so deliberately and without reason (unlike the Rachni)...

Turian Councilor: Do you take pleasure in genocide, Shepard?
Shep: No, but you do apparently...

End of rant... Sorry for long post... ;P

[sites32]

Thanks demon for the info very interesting.

[DoNotIngest]

After reading that, the Council can kiss my hair left nut if they need help again in ME3. I do hope we get to smash the Turian Councilor unconscious with the Elbow of Death or Shepard Punch.


Is there any indication on the Quarians' population size pre-Gethwar?

[sites32]

They said the Geth killed billions

[sites32]

Makes me regret saving the councils butts in ME1

[DoNotIngest]

"Billions". Sounds like it was a population similar to Earth's, or slightly larger. Interesting.

sitesunseen wrote...

Makes me regret saving the councils butts in ME1

Same, but we're going to have hell to pay if we didn't, I'll bet.

[Cam-Tal]

I didn't save the council, hopefully i won't have hell to pay

Modifié par Cam-Tal, 19 juin 2011 - 10:10 .

[Destroy Raiden_]

I remember that fabulous situation

Quarians: Hey council we found a world we like! Can we settle pretty please?
Council (point all manor of guns at them): No and get out or we'll nuke you from orbit and burn your remains with fire if you try to live there!
Quarians: Riight (get on ships and fly away)
Humans: Hey we like this world! Can we live here pretty please?
Council: Sure thing! Hope you rot...I mean hope you have a great time out there Humans!
Humans: Ah! We're being attacked out here help us!
Council: No. Remember before we said you could rot?


The council seems great with this whole planet assign method. Most of the worlds they give the humans have targets painted on them and the Quarians just get the boot.

[Spartanburger]

Council: Master Trolls

[Pride Demon]

sitesunseen wrote...

Makes me regret saving the councils butts in ME1

Well, I wasn't implying the current council has anything to do with that...

The Ekuna incident was roughly a hundred years before the start of the series, the Salarian wasn't even born (and in fact probably not even his mother was born) at the time and the Turian doesn't look THAT old...
As for the Asari, I'm going to guess they rotate their councilors to avoid power unbalance...

But still, the council in general is not a shining example of either morality or equality, and they seem to be pretty lacking in coherence, being so ready to take steps that go in direct opposition to what their predecessors did just because it's more convenient...

Also look at it this way, dying only makes them heroes in the eyes of the people, it's the easy way out for them...
If you want someone to be punished he has to be alive and face justice...

Maybe we can see if they'll finally apologize to the Quarians if they help out in defeating the Reapers: admitting they were wrong in front of the galaxy is a fair punishment to me...

[Nashiktal]

Council was probably trying to please the Elcor or something. The council is using humanity as a buffer against all the danger it seems. They used the alliance to push out the troublesome batarians, and to provide a buffer against the terminus systems. We also apparently serve as good janitors for their mess when trouble comes knocking.

The council is definately not looking out for anyone but the core members at least. It will be interesting to see how the political landscape will form post reaper war.

[sites32]

The human and Quarian races create an alliance, That would be awesome

[VettoRyouzou]

Nashiktal wrote...

Council was probably trying to please the Elcor or something. The council is using humanity as a buffer against all the danger it seems. They used the alliance to push out the troublesome batarians, and to provide a buffer against the terminus systems. We also apparently serve as good janitors for their mess when trouble comes knocking.

The council is definately not looking out for anyone but the core members at least. It will be interesting to see how the political landscape will form post reaper war.

To be fair I think they kinda do that to most new Council races At a time I bet asari Treated Turians the same.

[DoNotIngest]

sitesunseen wrote...

The human and Quarian races create an alliance, That would be awesome

You bet it would!




Given the Council's distain for Humans, Quarians and Shepard in particular, can you imagine the Turian Councilor's reaction if you let slip that Shepard and Tali were a couple?!



New punch-in-the-face interrupt scene, teh wewts!

[Ruby Python]

DoNotIngest wrote...

sitesunseen wrote...

The human and Quarian races create an alliance, That would be awesome

You bet it would!




Given the Council's distain for Humans, Quarians and Shepard in particular, can you imagine the Turian Councilor's reaction if you let slip that Shepard and Tali were a couple?!



New punch-in-the-face interrupt scene, teh wewts!

"Ah yes Interspecies realtionships......"

[sites32]

Really the human race can learn alot from Quarian culure. The Quarians have found the most mass relays and traveled further than any race. Also the Quarians could use the military strength our race possesses...... plus tali and shep can go to the movies and not get stared at : )

[DoNotIngest]

sitesunseen wrote...

Really the human race can learn alot from Quarian culure. The Quarians have found the most mass relays and traveled further than any race. Also the Quarians could use the military strength our race possesses...... plus tali and shep can go to the movies and not get stared at : )

Hah, you made me go there...


*Tali & Shepard edge along an aisle in a crowded theatre on the Citadel, getting in early for an awesome new movie, and sit down with a bag of popcorn and a tube of sweet paste. Everybody's staring at Shepard's arm around Tali's shoulders.*

Five minutes later...

Shepard: "I'm tired of your gratuitous tom-peeping!" /starts a theatre brawl






Edit: Changed "staring" to more shenaniganistic word.
 

Modifié par DoNotIngest, 20 juin 2011 - 01:55 .

[sites32]

LOL !

[Feltboot]

sitesunseen wrote...
New punch-in-the-face interrupt scene, teh wewts!

roundhouse (if I not mistakes) kick is better:D

[Ruby Python]

Feltboot wrote...

sitesunseen wrote...
New punch-in-the-face interrupt scene, teh wewts!

roundhouse (if I not mistakes) kick is better:D

More like "Roadhouse" kick