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forthary wrote...

For me, I view Liara as a wise friend that I sometimes resort to, similar to how Captain Picard goes to Guinan whenever he needs advice. Just how Tali sometimes talks to Garrus about things and maybe a few personal matters, I could see myself talking to Liara about Tali among other things. Liara is nowhere near close to Tali, but she does have a unique wisdom that I find fascinating. I wish I could have told Liara more about Tali besides that moment in the shadow broker base, it would have been amazing if I could talk to her in 3 about Tali and wonder what's happened to her. She would be the best person to go-to if I want to find out about things happening in the galaxy.


I second this, which is funny since she's not old by Asari standards. I think it would've been nice to talk to Garrus about Tali too and get his opinion on things since these two are Sheps biggest and best buds (my opinion of course).

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Ticonderoga117 wrote...

I second this, which is funny since she's not old by Asari standards. I think it would've been nice to talk to Garrus about Tali too and get his opinion on things since these two are Sheps biggest and best buds (my opinion of course).


I wonder if Garrus will find a woman to love him after this damn war is over?  He's certainly worthy of one with his strength, intelligence and cunning.  I just wonder if he'll find a human, turian or quarian female that he can engage in a mutual relationship with...I'm hoping he leans for quarian, to be honest.  I can see Garrus and Tali being brother and sister to each other, but in a actual relationship?  I don't know, I think theres a more matching woman for Garrus than Tali, to be honest.  I would laugh if Admiral Raan or Xen started hitting on him.

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forthary wrote...

For me, I view Liara as a wise friend that I sometimes resort to, similar to how Captain Picard goes to Guinan whenever he needs advice. Just how Tali sometimes talks to Garrus about things and maybe a few personal matters, I could see myself talking to Liara about Tali among other things. Liara is nowhere near close to Tali, but she does have a unique wisdom that I find fascinating. I wish I could have told Liara more about Tali besides that moment in the shadow broker base, it would have been amazing if I could talk to her in 3 about Tali and wonder what's happened to her. She would be the best person to go-to if I want to find out about things happening in the galaxy.


Now that I would have gone for.  Hell, having a friend to talk to about anything that happens during the mission would be great, and Garrus did a great job in doing so.  Talking to Liara about Tali or other personal things would've been another great way to bond with the original crew members, or talking to Kaidan/Ashley about similar things.  Would've made the game that much better (endings aside), but I guess that's what fan-fiction's for.

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forthary wrote...

For me, I view Liara as a wise friend that I sometimes resort to, similar to how Captain Picard goes to Guinan whenever he needs advice. Just how Tali sometimes talks to Garrus about things and maybe a few personal matters, I could see myself talking to Liara about Tali among other things. Liara is nowhere near close to Tali, but she does have a unique wisdom that I find fascinating. I wish I could have told Liara more about Tali besides that moment in the shadow broker base, it would have been amazing if I could talk to her in 3 about Tali and wonder what's happened to her. She would be the best person to go-to if I want to find out about things happening in the galaxy.

Yeah, my Shepard considers Liara a good friend too (and feels a bit guilty about breaking up with her, but you know, Tali; I honestly only picked her in one because I wanted to see the romance stuff but couldn't pick Tali). I made it up to her by having a FemShep playthrough who was loyal to Liara all the way through.

It did bother me that Shepard never comments on Tali (or anyone, really) until you find them. Even in ME2 you get to question TIM about your old team and you're given reasons for why you can't go after them immediately. In ME3, nothing. Even after the cryptic message about the quarians on the Spectre terminal, Shepard never tries to look into it until he's told to go see the quarians. Honestly, if I were in his place I'd be like "hey, Liara, you're the shadow broker, right? Why don't you use those resources to find my old team?" the second we got off Mars.

Does anyone at BioWare even remember how in ME1 you could choose which story mission to do after the Citadel, so you could recruit Liara as late/early as you wanted?

On the other hand, having to wait for Tali makes it all the more satisfying when she does show up. I guess you could say the wait was... *puts on sunglasses* ...totally worth it. Image IPB

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forthary wrote...

I wonder if Garrus will find a woman to love him after this damn war is over?  He's certainly worthy of one with his strength, intelligence and cunning.  I just wonder if he'll find a human, turian or quarian female that he can engage in a mutual relationship with...I'm hoping he leans for quarian, to be honest.  I can see Garrus and Tali being brother and sister to each other, but in a actual relationship?  I don't know, I think theres a more matching woman for Garrus than Tali, to be honest.  I would laugh if Admiral Raan or Xen started hitting on him.


Ditto, but I'm not too sure he'd find a human unless she was gunning for him just based on how he handles FemShep. Raan would be hilarious since I get the vibe she's getting on in years and all that. If Xen did I would have to drag him over to a corner and say "Look man, I know it's been awhile for you, but she's crazy man, and not in a good way. Hey, I know a nice Quarian girl on the Citadel who's not attached... or atleast wasn't six months ago. Probably safer."

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forthary wrote...

I wonder if Garrus will find a woman to love him after this damn war is over?

Dr. Michel showed an interest, didn't she (she gave him the chocolates, if memory serves)?

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aaand now to stop lurking. Revan's in the process of formatting the chapters of the FF Revan and I have been working on. Link's in the sig and soon they will all be reformatted to be more readable.

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Dilandau3000 wrote...

Yeah, my Shepard considers Liara a good friend too (and feels a bit guilty about breaking up with her, but you know, Tali; I honestly only picked her in one because I wanted to see the romance stuff but couldn't pick Tali). I made it up to her by having a FemShep playthrough who was loyal to Liara all the way through.

It did bother me that Shepard never comments on Tali (or anyone, really) until you find them. Even in ME2 you get to question TIM about your old team and you're given reasons for why you can't go after them immediately. In ME3, nothing. Even after the cryptic message about the quarians on the Spectre terminal, Shepard never tries to look into it until he's told to go see the quarians. Honestly, if I were in his place I'd be like "hey, Liara, you're the shadow broker, right? Why don't you use those resources to find my old team?" the second we got off Mars.

Does anyone at BioWare even remember how in ME1 you could choose which story mission to do after the Citadel, so you could recruit Liara as late/early as you wanted?

On the other hand, having to wait for Tali makes it all the more satisfying when she does show up. I guess you could say the wait was... *puts on sunglasses* ...totally worth it. Image IPB


But it wasn't completely necessary. Hell, I'm quite sure all the LI's should've been introduced much much earlier in some fasion if only just in a holo call. I mean really? I'm going to believe Shep would wait a good period of time (weeks/months in game time) before contacting his GF? Really? If I was in that position, as soon as I booked it off Mars I would be calling the fleet and be "Yeah, hey, it's Shepard. You know, the guy who saved the Alerei? Yeah, I need to get ahold of Tali'Zorah vas Normandy."

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Dilandau3000 wrote...

forthary wrote...

I wonder if Garrus will find a woman to love him after this damn war is over?

Dr. Michel showed an interest, didn't she (she gave him the chocolates, if memory serves)?


Ah yes, I forgot.  I don't think Garrus seemed to care too much for whatever odd reason, I mean, if he did, wouldn't he have kept those chocolates instead of giving them away to Tali?

Ha, that reminds me of back when I baught those chocolates on the citadel, I was going to give them to Tali thinking they were special dextro chocolates, and I thought Garrus got his grubby hands on them and ate them or tried to pass them off claiming it was his when really it was mine.  Turns out the chocolates were supposed to be for Ashley instead.  Oh well...

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aaand now to stop lurking. Revan's in the process of formatting the chapters of the FF Revan and I have been working on. Link's in the sig and soon they will all be reformatted to be more readable.

 

Really?  This should be interesting to look at.

Oh, and sorry for blowing your chances at getting in 2 more gold matches.  I usually don't think whenever im a Krogan.  That and I tend to suck as well.  Tali would be most displeased at my obsolete performance.

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forthary wrote...

Ryuji2 wrote...

aaand now to stop lurking. Revan's in the process of formatting the chapters of the FF Revan and I have been working on. Link's in the sig and soon they will all be reformatted to be more readable.

 

Really?  This should be interesting to look at.

Oh, and sorry for blowing your chances at getting in 2 more gold matches.  I usually don't think whenever im a Krogan.  That and I tend to suck as well.  Tali would be most displeased at my obsolete performance.


Well she's editing a few things here and there and spacing it to make it less of a pain to read from all the big paragraphs I wrote.

and no worries, Reapers on gold can diaf anyways, lol. So long as I have a shield equipment mod on, I usually don't die as the Kroguard, unless I lag...in which case I get insta-killed when I shouldn't. <_< But other than that it was quite fun. :lol: Tali would think you did fine in my opinion. She probably wouldn't be impressed with me if I tried to play as a quarian engineer though...HOWEVER! I can play a mean human or geth engineer, that's for sure. B)

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Well she's editing a few things here and there and spacing it to make it less of a pain to read from all the big paragraphs I wrote.

and no worries, Reapers on gold can diaf anyways, lol. So long as I have a shield equipment mod on, I usually don't die as the Kroguard, unless I lag...in which case I get insta-killed when I shouldn't. <_< But other than that it was quite fun. :lol: Tali would think you did fine in my opinion. She probably wouldn't be impressed with me if I tried to play as a quarian engineer though...HOWEVER! I can play a mean human or geth engineer, that's for sure. B)


I will laugh if our next random enemy and map challenge on gold takes us to Firebase White with Geth.  But I suppose it's nice that Tali would approve of our bravery in those challenges.  Plus, at least we carried out a succesful suicide mission on Firebase Reactor, we survived long enough to get our full credits before we perished.  As I layed there dying, my last message to Tali was, "You've got to warn Shepard.  More are coming!"  And when Tali told me we were gonna pull through, I told Tali, "Tali...go!"  Before the circle of life I had faded to nothing...

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Damn, you people play gold? I find silver to be horribly difficult already.

EDIT: Recycling one of my gmod images for lazy top

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Dilandau3000 wrote...

EDIT: Recycling one of my gmod images for lazy top


I dunno about that one...Tali seems to be swimming like a frog for whatever odd reason...I know quarian legs are a wonder of beauty, but...hmm.  I wonder if Morpheus, I mean Thane swims like that?

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Dilandau3000 wrote...

Damn, you people play gold? I find silver to be horribly difficult already.

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My favorite thing about this picture is Shepard clearly checking out Tali's butt

Gotta keep those eyes on the prize;)

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CoMo290 wrote...

My favorite thing about this picture is Shepard clearly checking out Tali's butt

Gotta keep those eyes on the prize;)


Well of course, but now the question is: What the hell is Garrus doing?

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forthary wrote...

I dunno about that one...Tali seems to be swimming like a frog for whatever odd reason...

You try making a realistic looking swimming pose in gmod.Image IPB Especially with Tali's somewhat unusual lower legs. It was an attempt at making something that vaguely looks like the breaststroke, anyway.

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Well of course, but now the question is: What the hell is Garrus doing?

Spying on them. Considering his comments about turian swimming ME3 he's probably jealous that they can do it. Image IPB

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Spying on them. Considering his comments about turian swimming ME3 he's probably jealous that they can do it. Image IPB


Ah, I see. 
*Cloaks then sneaks up behind Garrus and pushes him in* Aha! :lol:

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Dilandau3000 wrote...

forthary wrote...

I dunno about that one...Tali seems to be swimming like a frog for whatever odd reason...

You try making a realistic looking swimming pose in gmod.Image IPB Especially with Tali's somewhat unusual lower legs. It was an attempt at making something that vaguely looks like the breaststroke, anyway.


Oh.  Yeah, I have to admit, posing is absolutely miserable in G-Mod.  I wonder how much trouble the developers have posing characters using their game engine?  I find it kinda funny that you posed on this map, because I downloaded a bunch of maps and stuff in G-Mod to try some posing, including that map, but quickly got furious over how much BS was involved and quit.  Oh well...

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I've done a limited amount of skeleton posing in real 3D apps like 3dsmax (as part of a computer graphics class some years ago), and it's way easier than the stupid physgun in gmod. At least you can easily see what you're selecting (with the physgun half the time when I try to move an arm I end up moving whatever body part is behind it), and you can lock relative positions (so you can bend the elbow then move the shoulder while keeping the arm bent; in gmod when you lock the forearm you basically can't move the shoulder because you lock the absolute position of each body part).

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Dilandau3000 wrote...

Ticonderoga117 wrote...

Well of course, but now the question is: What the hell is Garrus doing?

Spying on them. Considering his comments about turian swimming ME3 he's probably jealous that they can do it. Image IPB


I think he is still jelous of Shep!:(

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Well, i'm off for the night. interested in seeing all your crazy gmod creations tommorow. night everyone!

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Dilandau3000 wrote...

I've done a limited amount of skeleton posing in real 3D apps like 3dsmax (as part of a computer graphics class some years ago), and it's way easier than the stupid physgun in gmod. At least you can easily see what you're selecting (with the physgun half the time when I try to move an arm I end up moving whatever body part is behind it), and you can lock relative positions (so you can bend the elbow then move the shoulder while keeping the arm bent; in gmod when you lock the forearm you basically can't move the shoulder because you lock the absolute position of each body part).

Ughhh, that was I fearing to hear about GMod, which sounds like the only real program out there so far for posing and animating 3D game character models :pinched: would be so much easier to be able to animate them in Lightwave 3D (or any other normal 3D program) with true skeleton systems and inverse kinematics, but that sounds like a no-go at this point. 

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I might get shot for this, but this is a great song from Tali, to Shep.