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 So, I wrote these... I guess vignettes. They're smaller pieces of a larger story. They're the first things I've written in something like two years, and the first fan fiction I've ever written.

If they seem disjointed, that's because they are. Part one is the beginning of the story, probably only a little after Haestrom. The second part is much later, development-wise, probably after the Collector Ship but before Tali's loyalty mission or the derelict Reaper. They aren't meant to follow one after the other, they're just what I wrote.

Anyways, let me know what you guys think: ashesofdeadstars.wordpress.com/

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Asenza wrote...

Sorry to run in on the conversation, but ever since my last playthrough, this has been bugging me.

I played as FemShep and went after Thane. But once I did LotSB, I went to the information on Tali and found, in addition to all the other info, that she had downloaded/read some manuals on human mating and courtship.

I understand it if one is playing as a male shep and was pursuing Tali, but who was she thinking of? Certainly not Jacob or Miranda or Jack... they're CERBERUS! What other human on the Normandy has she been watching? Hopefully not Kelly...

To my surprise I even got pretty far into the "romantic" dialogue with Tali, with her saying, "Except... well, no Quarians. Uh, you know what I mean." To be fair, after that she clarifies it by stating that if Fem Shep were a Quarian and that they didn't have a suicide mission to go on, she would be honored to link suits with her -much like Tali's mother did with Shala'Raan.

But still, the fact of the human courtship/mating manuals being in her files from the Shadow Broker... just an oversight? Or maybe something more- Tali as a female love interest in ME3?

Thoughts? If this was answered somewhere else, I apologize- I couldn't find it.




Joker would be the only other option, which is entirelly possible

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You don't see much interaction between Joker with the other squadmates though unfortunately.

Shame, because Tali and Joker snark would sure be something to watch! :D

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Tasha vas Nar Rayya wrote...

You don't see much interaction between Joker with the other squadmates though unfortunately.

Shame, because Tali and Joker snark would sure be something to watch! :D


I am still hoping for Dragon Age-esque intra-companion dialogues. That was the one thing which was noticeably worse in ME2 than in ME1.

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Asenza wrote...

Sorry to run in on the conversation, but ever since my last playthrough, this has been bugging me.
*snip*.

Probably an oversight. She does the research and installs the immunoboost application after the second romance conversation.

magnuskn wrote...
I am still hoping for Dragon Age-esque
intra-companion dialogues. That was the one thing which was noticeably
worse in ME2 than in ME1.

That would be nice, I really enjoyed DAO companion interactions.

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Tasha vas Nar Rayya wrote...

You don't see much interaction between Joker with the other squadmates though unfortunately.

Shame, because Tali and Joker snark would sure be something to watch! :D


Listening to them team up to make fun of Garrus would be awesome.

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Tali likes like that Shepard regardless if you pursue a relationship with her or not. I've checked the dossier on several Shepards including females and it's still the same.

My guess is that it's either an oversight or a tease for biShepual Tali in ME3 (similar to how the lung transplant thing for Thane teases a cure in ME3)...while I don't necessarily mind, I don't necessarily think it will happen.


Or it just has a different context if your Shepard is female. She might be attracted to human men in general. The question then becomes, "Who is she fantasizing about?"

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ChaplainTappman wrote...

 So, I wrote these... I guess vignettes. They're smaller pieces of a larger story. They're the first things I've written in something like two years, and the first fan fiction I've ever written.

If they seem disjointed, that's because they are. Part one is the beginning of the story, probably only a little after Haestrom. The second part is much later, development-wise, probably after the Collector Ship but before Tali's loyalty mission or the derelict Reaper. They aren't meant to follow one after the other, they're just what I wrote.

Anyways, let me know what you guys think: ashesofdeadstars.wordpress.com/


Hey, i kinda like! keep that going pal =)

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SuperEngineer wrote...

It would be nice to allow your LI to be able to punch the reporter in ME3 

*snip*

Tali punching the reporter for the win :)  B)

I would think that if Shepard misses the opportunity to punch her in ME3 (ignores the renegade interrupt) then she might say something about your romantic status that can be taken as an insult and Shepard is given the opportunity to smile and walk away while the LI punches her.

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ChaplainTappman wrote...

 So, I wrote these... I guess vignettes. They're smaller pieces of a larger story. They're the first things I've written in something like two years, and the first fan fiction I've ever written.

If they seem disjointed, that's because they are. Part one is the beginning of the story, probably only a little after Haestrom. The second part is much later, development-wise, probably after the Collector Ship but before Tali's loyalty mission or the derelict Reaper. They aren't meant to follow one after the other, they're just what I wrote.

Anyways, let me know what you guys think: ashesofdeadstars.wordpress.com/


I applaud both of them Chaplain. I like how in the first one, Tali can't fully decide whether to say "Shepard" or "Commander"...good to see Tali use a sniper rifle too XD.

And you also made me look up Ain Jalut. I'd never heard of that. Also I like how  you include Tali having to become back-adjusted to Quarian ships after staying on the Normandy so long, and some personal narrative for Shepard.

Minor fix: You left an 'n' off of "Mindoir" in the sentence "They took me to another colony, a place called Firdaus"

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Swordfish56 wrote...

I applaud both of them Chaplain. I like how in the first one, Tali can't fully decide whether to say "Shepard" or "Commander"...good to see Tali use a sniper rifle too XD.

And you also made me look up Ain Jalut. I'd never heard of that. Also I like how  you include Tali having to become back-adjusted to Quarian ships after staying on the Normandy so long, and some personal narrative for Shepard.

Minor fix: You left an 'n' off of "Mindoir" in the sentence "They took me to another colony, a place called Firdaus"

Whoops. I'll be fixing that. In my defense, I wrote that at like 3 in the morning last night, on 5 hours sleep in 48 hours.

Thanks for the input. I'll be adding to it; my life's basically in a holding pattern for the next six months, and I have to keep myself entertained without getting into trouble somehow.

As a side note, I wrote both pieces listening to a Pandora station with Isis as the seed; if you're curious, that's about what my Mass Effect soundtrack would be: 

bit.ly/pmcfC1

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ChaplainTappman wrote...

Swordfish56 wrote...

I applaud both of them Chaplain. I like how in the first one, Tali can't fully decide whether to say "Shepard" or "Commander"...good to see Tali use a sniper rifle too XD.

And you also made me look up Ain Jalut. I'd never heard of that. Also I like how  you include Tali having to become back-adjusted to Quarian ships after staying on the Normandy so long, and some personal narrative for Shepard.

Minor fix: You left an 'n' off of "Mindoir" in the sentence "They took me to another colony, a place called Firdaus"

Whoops. I'll be fixing that. In my defense, I wrote that at like 3 in the morning last night, on 5 hours sleep in 48 hours.

Thanks for the input. I'll be adding to it; my life's basically in a holding pattern for the next six months, and I have to keep myself entertained without getting into trouble somehow.

As a side note, I wrote both pieces listening to a Pandora station with Isis as the seed; if you're curious, that's about what my Mass Effect soundtrack would be: 

bit.ly/pmcfC1


Ill even add that i want more.

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agree its really good hope you can write some more, also Isis is awesome though I have to admit I find it odd using it for mass effect hehe

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Thanks, guys! Like I said, I'll definitely be adding to it (especially since my 360 died). Hopefully I'll be able to manage it in a more chronologically cogent way; the second part is way later in the story, but I had to get it out of my system. Sometimes that happens.

You might be right, Jog, Isis might be odd for ME. I'm an odd person, though, so it fits.

Another side note: the description of Mindoir's native flora and the name Margay for Shepard's girlfriend are both references to the book The Forever War by Joe Haldeman, which is a fantastic sci fi novel.

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Is it marygay or margay? Either way it sounds weird, but eh!

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Spartanburger wrote...

SuperEngineer wrote...

It would be nice to allow your LI to be able to punch the reporter in ME3 

*snip*

Tali punching the reporter for the win :)  B)

I would think that if Shepard misses the opportunity to punch her in ME3 (ignores the renegade interrupt) then she might say something about your romantic status that can be taken as an insult and Shepard is given the opportunity to smile and walk away while the LI punches her.


Oooo I like the way you think, sir.:wizard:

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who do u think is better shotgun? tali, wrex, or grunt?

wow, tali's being compared to krogans.

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If the gun is the same, I think they are all equal...its not 'that' hard to aim a shotgun is it?

Of course, only Shepard and Krogans can really wield Claymore shotguns in-universe, so I'd say 'advantage Krogan' in the case of Claymores. Of course, the Geth Pulse Shotgun levels the playing field....


Personally I prefer the rapid fire Scimitar....actually feels like a shotgun.

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P38 ace wrote...
whether the other spices have implant's or not does not really matter in this disscusstion, this discussian is all about what is it to be a Quarian

Well, if other species have them, why wouldn`t the Quarians? In fact, I consider them to be among the first to have such implants. Especially considering how good they are in technological stuff.

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and with your Wi-Fi thing, a EMP can easly disrupt Wi-Fi, and we have no clue if things have even gotten an all-frequncy EMP protection in this time period, and even if it has some, a quick frequnace change can work horrors, and Wi-Fi is extramly suscptable compaired to hardwiring

Sure it is. I`m completely with you there. But who says that in all the time since Wi-Fi has been discovered, they never found anything better than that? It`s sci-fi after all, so one can assume that people will have evolved from 'merely' using Wi-Fi and Bluetooth.
Besides, they can still jam your radar, they can still block communications, so disruption techniques evolve just as well. But there is nothing that would indicate that they don`t use blockers on these systems so that if it only needs to work on your own body, they can ignore everything coming from a further distance. I mean, you can configure your wireless network to accept only traphic from specific IP-addresses as well, in other words, trusted sources, so I don`t see the problem.

Which makes me wonder ... the Quarians are known for their technological progress, well, until they were nearly wiped out. How long did it take them to build the suits and adapt to that lifestyle? I suppose that many highly knowledgable people have perished through the war and the suits have supposedly been developed only after the war when they have left their homeworld. I doubt the suits would`ve been prepared beforehand in order to last a lifetime in there. Is that ever explained somewhere?

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Alexisonf1re wrote...

Is it marygay or margay? Either way it sounds weird, but eh!

Oh, for the love of- holy balls I can't type lately. It's Marygay. It is a bit of a strange name, but I always found it strangely appealing, and I thought it'd be a nice nod to a great book.

@Gambit, re: the quarians' implants, look at it this way. First, because they're the quarians and are considered maybe a step above batarians by the galaxy at large, they don't have access to top of the line technology. It's not unreasonable to assume they're a generation or two behind the rest of the galaxy. Second, because of their immune systems, they'd likely be hesitant about any invasive procedure. It's safer for them to use augmentation tech that's outside the body.

Re: their suits, given their naturally weak immune systems, they probably already had pretty robust environmental suit tech at the time of the Morning War. Those original suits were likely passed down from generation to generation. As they wore down, it was simply a matter of mating their technical aptitude with their resourcefulness.

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ChaplainTappman wrote...
@Gambit, re: the quarians' implants, look at it this way. First, because they're the quarians and are considered maybe a step above batarians by the galaxy at large, they don't have access to top of the line technology. It's not unreasonable to assume they're a generation or two behind the rest of the galaxy. Second, because of their immune systems, they'd likely be hesitant about any invasive procedure. It's safer for them to use augmentation tech that's outside the body.

Perhaps others might view them as such, but I suppose that there are also Quarians who will be able to get their hands on techs they can learn from.
Would there be Quarians who return from their Pelgrimage with secrets from other races? I doubt it as they`re generally not trusted enough to sneak in and steal things other races consider secrets. However, they can dissect existing technology, understand it and either use it or change it enough to suit their needs. The only drawback is that they probably don`t have enough resources to mass-produce them for the fleet.

I do understand that the immune system might flare up due to the implants, but then again, there are talks about the Quarians being partly inorganic, so if we take that a step further, we can assume that they have enough tech inside them already.
Now I don`t know whether that is true, but if they have other implants, they might also know how to insert those without killing themselves. Taking into account that the Quarians used to be a whole lot more accepted before they created the Geth, I assume that they had most of the implants back then already.

ChaplainTappman wrote...
Re: their suits, given their naturally weak immune systems, they probably already had pretty robust environmental suit tech at the time of the Morning War. Those original suits were likely passed down from generation to generation. As they wore down, it was simply a matter of mating their technical aptitude with their resourcefulness.

I recall someone saying that these suits were indeed passed down from generation to generation, but considering how people grow and vary in sizes, I say that passing them down the line doesn`t really help all that much. You can`t really compare them with regular clothing since these suits are seemingly person-tailored. Then again, I don`t know with what kind of crappy suits they exited the Morning War ...

Urgh. Why can`t we just ask Tali about this stuff? :innocent:

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I can picture myself calling liz (or ash... w/e) and ask her specifications about quarian lore ;)

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Hellbound555 wrote...

who do u think is better shotgun? tali, wrex, or grunt?

wow, tali's being compared to krogans.

Tali with the geth shotgun is a deadly combination. :)

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FsDxRAGE wrote...

Hellbound555 wrote...

who do u think is better shotgun? tali, wrex, or grunt?

wow, tali's being compared to krogans.

Tali with the geth shotgun is a deadly combination. :)


that is a Parodox

speeking of which, has anyone ever waited to get Legion then go get Tali
it opens some pertty nice dialog.

Oh and on my Tali ME1 character, i had the Geth rifle on Tali, it was so awsome and weird at the same time

But im going with Tali on the Shotty, because sure Sheperd and Grunt get the Claymore, but Tali can get in to small places and manover better while presenting a smaller targetPosted Image

Fast,+nimble+Power= Win for TaliPosted Image

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Gambit1st wrote...

Perhaps others might view them as such, but I suppose that there are also Quarians who will be able to get their hands on techs they can learn from.
Would there be Quarians who return from their Pelgrimage with secrets from other races? I doubt it as they`re generally not trusted enough to sneak in and steal things other races consider secrets. However, they can dissect existing technology, understand it and either use it or change it enough to suit their needs. The only drawback is that they probably don`t have enough resources to mass-produce them for the fleet.

But that kind of proves my point. Anything tech for their suits reverse-engineered by quarians on their Pilgrimage would be a hodge-podge, glommed onto their individual suits. Improvised and adapted technology rarely works as well as purpose-built.

I do understand that the immune system might flare up due to the implants, but then again, there are talks about the Quarians being partly inorganic, so if we take that a step further, we can assume that they have enough tech inside them already.
Now I don`t know whether that is true, but if they have other implants, they might also know how to insert those without killing themselves. Taking into account that the Quarians used to be a whole lot more accepted before they created the Geth, I assume that they had most of the implants back then already.

I don't place any stock in the "quarians are robots under their masks oh noes!!!!!" rumors. To me, it's just a rumor bred of ignorance, much like the image of them all as beggars and thieves. I doubt they're any more inorganic than the average human, probably less so as a result of their immune systems. The difference is that augmentation in humans is, unless I'm mistaken, primarily genetic in nature, while I imagine the quarians would rely on cybernetic augmentations, given their innate proficiency with technology and the inherent dangers of genetic modification even among races with robust immune systems. And I think that primarily external implants would be preferred to internal, although that could be a choice left up to the individual; keep in mind that quarians aren't given implants until they're preparing for their Pilgrimage.

Also, you're right. If we could just ask Tali, we'd know all this.