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exelsis wrote...
Well i've got tali, and she has her juice, so there is no despair around here. And shep's mind-shatteringly insensitive 'thanks' comment is enough to make him "worst shepard to mance ever." I'd feel bad for mancing tali with that atrocious dialogue, except I headcanon over it with dialogue that contains actual love and empathy.


That's up for interpretation along with Tali's "You're real... and mine" being interpreted as posessive. Not everything needs to be swoony crooning lovey-dovey for it to be proper romance dialogue.

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Fenrisfil wrote...

darthrevaninlight wrote...
^
that pic kind of weirds me out for some reason
but not because of the claws.... its just... the straw...:huh:

Probably the scary claw fingers?

All the better to pounce you with.

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Unschuld wrote...

exelsis wrote...
Well i've got tali, and she has her juice, so there is no despair around here. And shep's mind-shatteringly insensitive 'thanks' comment is enough to make him "worst shepard to mance ever." I'd feel bad for mancing tali with that atrocious dialogue, except I headcanon over it with dialogue that contains actual love and empathy.


That's up for interpretation along with Tali's "You're real... and mine" being interpreted as posessive. Not everything needs to be swoony crooning lovey-dovey for it to be proper romance dialogue.

But when tali pours her heart our to you, and all you can offer in return is a 'thanks' it makes it seem like the talimance is less of a romance, and more of a punishment, and sheploo is being inflicted upon her for some reason.

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exelsis wrote...
But when tali pours her heart our to you, and all you can offer in return is a 'thanks' it makes it seem like the talimance is less of a romance, and more of a punishment, and sheploo is being inflicted upon her for some reason.


He had a lot more on his plate at the time than nookie. After experiencing a dream like that bringing me back to reality, I would have probably done the same.

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exelsis wrote...

Fenrisfil wrote...

darthrevaninlight wrote...
^
that pic kind of weirds me out for some reason
but not because of the claws.... its just... the straw...:huh:

Probably the scary claw fingers?

All the better to pounce you with.


Hmm, well long fingernails is one thing, but those I'm not so sure about. Too zoidberg-y

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"...a female quarian."

*Tali and Shepard are standing in the forensics laboratory, checking the large computer display. A human forensics expert and a quarian medic are standing next to them, both with the obligatory datapad in hands*

Forensics expert: About 16 earth years old...

Tali *touched*: Oh, so young...

Forensics expert: Born in space, came here with the life ships, was living with her parents...

Shepard: I can read, Gen. Don't waste my time. All quarians are spacers.

Gen: Not all of them...

Shepard: All sixteen year olds! Now how did she die?

Medic: We don't know.

Tali: What do you mean, you don't know?

Medic: Well, we know the cause of death.

Shepard: You've been around Gen too much. How did she die?

Medic: Stroke.

Tali / Shepard: What?

Medic: She shows all signs of a severe stroke. You can see the intra-axial hemorrhage here in the orbital and dorsolateral...

Shepard: Write the details into the report. How can she have a stroke?

Medic: That is what we don't know.

Shepard: So if it was an i-a-hemorrhage, there must be severe bleeding. Where does it come from?

Medic: As you can see on the scan here...

Shepard: All I see is a big black spot.

Medic: Well...that's about it.

Shepard: Could you per chance specify that?

Medic: There is nothing left in the orbital and dorsolateral frontal lobes. When we opened her up after scanning, we found ... goo. Literally.

Tali: But...how is that possible?

Medic: From a medicinal standpoint, there are several possibilities, all equally unlikely...

Shepard: Gen, how is it possible?

Gen: Not really sure. But I have a pet theory here...

Shepard: Spit it out.

Gen: Well, there is one big plus on those envirosuits. They log everything.

Tali: You read out her logs?

Gen: Of course. She died from a stroke, at age 16.

Tali: But those are very intimate details!

Gen: Especially here. If I may direct your attention to the software logs...

Tali: Shepard, I really think we shouldn't...

Shepard: Okay, for the record, you had the parents permission for this, right?

Gen: Right.

Shepard: All right then. Seems she had some environment enhancers, massage software, S...scent alterators? Weird.

Gen: Oh, rather common for young quarians, I assure you. Now, you see this software here, "Nerve Stim"?

Shepard: Yeah.

*Tali gets beet red*

Gen: Well, that is, how to phrase it best, a pleasure software.

Shepard: Yeah, I read about it.

*Tali's expression changes from embarassed to irritated*

Gen: You did?

Shepard: Yeah, some files. Anyway, how is this important? It says "deinstalled" right here.

Gen: Yeah, because she got Nerve Stim Pro.

Tali *getting a grip*: Wait...that is really expensive.

Gen: It's a bootleg software.

Tali: What? Those are dangerous, everybody knows that!

Gen: Which is why this is my pet theory.

Shepard: How can you get bootleg software into an envirosuit system? Aren't those too specific to alter the normal procedures?

Gen: Yeah, most bootlegs are just the normal demo software with the trial period removed. But this one was never a demo, it's the full thing. Also, it was not downloaded from extranet or something, but manually installed.

Tali: What? Who even does that, except hackers who don't want to be traced?

Shepard: And seeing her software choice, she obviously was more of a ditzy.

Tali: What's a ditzy?

Shepard: I'll explain later. Did she use the software?

Gen: Extensively. She got it two days ago, and used it 27 times according to the logs.

Tali *turning completely red*: Thats...impressive.

Shepard: How long?

Gen: Some just seconds, some very long...she used the crap out of it, given the time.

Shepard: Any reports on any software causing strokes or severe brain damage?

Medic: Not to the day, no.

Shepard: Okay. Keep us posted, you two. If you find any other reasons this could've happened, let us know.

Gen: Will do.

Shepard: Let's go.

Tali *while walking out with him*: How do you know Nerve Stim?

Shepard: Shadow Broker had files on your extranet history. Sent the term through Centil afterwards.

Tali *turning even redder than before*: I will kill Liara for this.

Shepard: It was saved by the former Shadow Broker.

Tali: She killed him, so I kill her!

Shepard: That don't make no sense.

Tali: You want me to kill you, too?

Shepard: Later, love.

Tali: Oh, shut up...

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And I never read or even heard of Ace Attorney before you mentioned it, Revan. All I know is - everything I learned about life I learned from shoujo manga.

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Unschuld wrote...

exelsis wrote...
But when tali pours her heart our to you, and all you can offer in return is a 'thanks' it makes it seem like the talimance is less of a romance, and more of a punishment, and sheploo is being inflicted upon her for some reason.

He had a lot more on his plate at the time than nookie. After experiencing a dream like that bringing me back to reality, I would have probably done the same.

I wouldn't have treated her deepest emotions like a tissue to be used and discarded. I would have responded in kind, while hugging her tightly in a futile attempt to banish the lingering nightmares.

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exelsis wrote...

Unschuld wrote...

exelsis wrote...
Well i've got tali, and she has her juice, so there is no despair around here. And shep's mind-shatteringly insensitive 'thanks' comment is enough to make him "worst shepard to mance ever." I'd feel bad for mancing tali with that atrocious dialogue, except I headcanon over it with dialogue that contains actual love and empathy.


That's up for interpretation along with Tali's "You're real... and mine" being interpreted as posessive. Not everything needs to be swoony crooning lovey-dovey for it to be proper romance dialogue.

But when tali pours her heart our to you, and all you can offer in return is a 'thanks' it makes it seem like the talimance is less of a romance, and more of a punishment, and sheploo is being inflicted upon her for some reason.

That's how I felt about that "Thanks" too.  It could have at least had some affection to it; it sounded dry as hell.  Then he just walked off, no stroking her cheek at least (side of her helmet in her case).

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exelsis wrote...

Unschuld wrote...

exelsis wrote...
But when tali pours her heart our to you, and all you can offer in return is a 'thanks' it makes it seem like the talimance is less of a romance, and more of a punishment, and sheploo is being inflicted upon her for some reason.

He had a lot more on his plate at the time than nookie. After experiencing a dream like that bringing me back to reality, I would have probably done the same.

I wouldn't have treated her deepest emotions like a tissue to be used and discarded. I would have responded in kind, while hugging her tightly in a futile attempt to banish the lingering nightmares.


I'll venture a guess that you have no idea whatsoever as to what it's like to experience PTSD/ASD symptoms. And I'll leave it at that.

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exelsis wrote...

Unschuld wrote...

exelsis wrote...
But when tali pours her heart our to you, and all you can offer in return is a 'thanks' it makes it seem like the talimance is less of a romance, and more of a punishment, and sheploo is being inflicted upon her for some reason.

He had a lot more on his plate at the time than nookie. After experiencing a dream like that bringing me back to reality, I would have probably done the same.

I wouldn't have treated her deepest emotions like a tissue to be used and discarded. I would have responded in kind, while hugging her tightly in a futile attempt to banish the lingering nightmares.


Seconded, but while that's a slight hink in the dialogue, the rest isn't too bad.

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Is it bad to say....that...they're wont be any more Tali? No more Tali from Bioware?

:l I don't know about you guys...but that is severely depressing...

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@Mad

really like where its going. Cant wait to see the plot unfold!!! +__+ INTERROGATION OF SUSPECTS

goshdarn totp:

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Iclonic wrote...

Is it bad to say....that...they're wont be any more Tali? No more Tali from Bioware?

:l I don't know about you guys...but that is severely depressing...


A bit.

But there will be other stories, and other characters.

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Unschuld wrote...

Iclonic wrote...

Is it bad to say....that...they're wont be any more Tali? No more Tali from Bioware?

:l I don't know about you guys...but that is severely depressing...


A bit.

But there will be other stories, and other characters.


For mass effect? more for Tali?

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Iclonic wrote...
Is it bad to say....that...they're wont be any more Tali? No more Tali from Bioware?
:l I don't know about you guys...but that is severely depressing...

I'm actually glad about that. With the tranwreck that was ME3, it would only be a matter of time before tali became a bimbofied sexdoll with as much personality as a refrigerator door handle. We are very lucky that weekes and enough of the writing team did their jobs correctly and gave tali a good final show. We can't ask for more, because we shall never recieve.

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Iclonic wrote...



For mass effect? more for Tali?



Tali is ours now. We write her stories, her future. They have abandoned her, so we pick her up and live happily with her.

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Lovin the latest bit Madders

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darthrevaninlight wrote...

@Mad

really like where its going. Cant wait to see the plot unfold!!! +__+ INTERROGATION OF SUSPECTS


So far, all suspects are dead. Following the lead of the great philosopher Mahatma Ghandi - kill them all and let keelah sort them out.

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TrueMadayar wrote...

Iclonic wrote...



For mass effect? more for Tali?



Tali is ours now. We write her stories, her future. They have abandoned her, so we pick her up and live happily with her.


I guess that is all we can do then. :'( 

I do have my story that I'm writing still. I'll keep her alive until the very. very end.
:)

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Iclonic wrote...

For mass effect? more for Tali?



Well, anything really. Not necessarily Mass Effect, not necessarily Tali either.

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TrueMadayar wrote...
So far, all suspects are dead. Following the lead of the great philosopher Mahatma Ghandi - kill them all and let keelah sort them out.


Doesn't sound much like a Ghandi quote... sounds like a Marine quote I'm familiar with... Of course that was an adopted phrase, but still...

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TrueMadayar wrote...

darthrevaninlight wrote...

@Mad

really like where its going. Cant wait to see the plot unfold!!! +__+ INTERROGATION OF SUSPECTS


So far, all suspects are dead. Following the lead of the great philosopher Mahatma Ghandi - kill them all and let keelah sort them out.

BUT INTERROGATIONS ARE THE MOST FUN TO COMIC-IZE!!!

cmon cmon

interrogations FTW

and then indiscreet shootings :o:O:O:O

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Maybe Tali should keep setting up interrogations and start out as bad cop, then Shepard comes in and shoots them, not fully understanding how it's meant to work.

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exelsis wrote...

Iclonic wrote...
Is it bad to say....that...they're wont be any more Tali? No more Tali from Bioware?
:l I don't know about you guys...but that is severely depressing...

I'm actually glad about that. With the tranwreck that was ME3, it would only be a matter of time before tali became a bimbofied sexdoll with as much personality as a refrigerator door handle. We are very lucky that weekes and enough of the writing team did their jobs correctly and gave tali a good final show. We can't ask for more, because we shall never recieve.


I hate to say it, but it is probably best that BW don't write any more Tali. I'd hate for them to ruin her personality like they ruined the story.

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 Okay lets try it again.

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