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khardrueth wrote...

Deoku wrote...

gamer_girl wrote...

Like Donelly talking all pervy about Tali's suit in ME2. Wanted to smack him upside the head. Let his tiny little brain drain out his ear. >_>


He's pervy about every female though except with the woman that matters most in his life and actually cares about him..  So backwards.  Im glad my Shepard had a chance to help him open his eyes to what he should be focused on.


Personally there was No way I was going to help someone with such a horrible 'Scottish' accent :P

More seriously though don't you only get the chance to help Gabby and Ken if you have Ashley on board for some reason? Not sure why that is when Ashley was never even on the SR2 in the second game, surely Tali should be the one that enables their banter etc.

Yeah it's some strange glitch with the game that requires her :/

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forthary wrote...

I tried, TrueMadayar.  Poor Gabby and Chambers got turned into omni-paste...and a few others, too.

*Watches over their coffins and sighs*

If I could go back in time...
 


You could've, you know. Of course, you can never play ME3 again, we all know it's impossible. But you still could. I only lost the colonists...I smashed those tubes and saved my people. Legion unlocked the doors for me. Tali was with me until I sent her back as bodyguard for the crew. I should've known not to face Marauder Shields with her at my side...I provoked the space magic...

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gamer_girl wrote...

*sigh*
Such a barbaric fantasy. Wouldn't expect any less of Donelly.
But seriously.
Trying to make a woman jealous is a very bad way of getting her.
At least in my opinion.
That just shows that your eyes are elsewhere, and you aren't interested at all.


How would I know, the girls I meet are...wait, I don't meet any, I mean the girls I talk to are completely mental. Nothing helps in the end, you lose them somehow. All I fight for is to have more time.

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TrueMadayar wrote...

You could've, you know. Of course, you can never play ME3 again, we all know it's impossible.


I'm on my second playthrough with plans for a third currently.

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I am a fan of rock myself, but i prefer her singing. I prefer every quarian singing.

This inspired me, so I made this:

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Any ideas for band names? Posted Image

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The Quads

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Deoku wrote...


Yeah it's some strange glitch with the game that requires her :/


Well, as it was posted:

Dusty Everman (BioWare) wrote:

"To my great sadness and
embarrassment, it looks like there is a bug here that got introduced
just before ship. It looks like the test for "is it time for ambient
dialog in engineering" accidentally got switched to "are you good
friends with Ashley". How did this bug happen? I have no idea, and need
to do some detective work. This doesn't just block Ken and Gabby banter,
but I think this blocks some Tali and Garrus banter in engineering too.
As it stands now to see that banter, I believe you'll need to get
Ashley in your party and take her on missions and/or give Ashley lots of
attention by speaking to her and giving her the gift in the hospital.
If you have Kaidan in your game, obviously this can't be done, and that
sucks.

Though the fix is easy, the difficult part is getting the
fix into a patch of some sort. Getting content fixes into patches is
much harder than you'd think. It's a giant process. I'll try to get that
fix through, but sadly, the odds of getting this type of fix into a
patch is very low. It just kills me that so many of the people who care
about Ken and Gabby (those of you reading this forum) didn't get to see
that content. I tested the heck out of it too for weeks before ship. You
just don't now how sorry I am."

There is a workaround, you need to set two parameters that are missing when you have Kaidan. You even miss a Tali conversation that way, so...well, better do it, if you ever play the game again.

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Unschuld wrote...


I'm on my second playthrough with plans for a third currently.


I correct myself, impossible for those who truly care for story and meaning... *hehe* Mead?

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TrueMadayar wrote...

There is a workaround, you need to set two parameters that are missing when you have Kaidan. You even miss a Tali conversation that way, so...well, better do it, if you ever play the game again.


I really hope they fix it, but...oh well.  Maybe if they release a editor before they discontinue supporting the game...

Ah, but im getting ahead of myself.  I should go.  Oh, and to pass the time, I FINALLY released the next chapter in my FF after much laziness and lack of motivation passed by me.  It's worth the wait, though.

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TrueMadayar wrote...

I correct myself, impossible for those who truly care for story and meaning... *hehe* Mead?


Oh, but I do. More than you know. ;)

Long story short, Mass Effect is my bar-none favorite science fiction franchise, and I still have faith in Bioware.

Modifié par Unschuld, 05 mai 2012 - 04:37 .


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Dilandau3000 wrote...

-N7-Seeker wrote...

I am a fan of rock myself, but i prefer her singing. I prefer every quarian singing.

This inspired me, so I made this:

*GMod Snip*

Any ideas for band names? Posted Image


Tali and the Reavers

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TrueMadayar wrote...

Deoku wrote...
Yeah it's some strange glitch with the game that requires her :/


Well, as it was posted:
Dusty Everman (BioWare) wrote:

Though the fix is easy, the difficult part is getting the fix into a patch of some sort. Getting content fixes into patches is much harder than you'd think. It's a giant process. I'll try to get that fix through, but sadly, the odds of getting this type of fix into a patch is very low. It just kills me that so many of the people who care about Ken and Gabby (those of you reading this forum) didn't get to see that content. I tested the heck out of it too for weeks before ship. You just don't now how sorry I am."

There is a workaround, you need to set two parameters that are missing when you have Kaidan. You even miss a Tali conversation that way, so...well, better do it, if you ever play the game again.

Dafuq? We had like 10 MP patches already, and they can't just patch those 2 params? Melkor take them.

TotP

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-N7-Seeker wrote...
Tali and the Reavers


That brought up a very disturbing mental image. Please god no!!  :pinched:

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exelsis wrote...
Dafuq? We had like 10 MP patches already, and they can't just patch those 2 params? Melkor take them.

TotP


Multiplayer glitches are a LOT easier to fix than single player, unfortunately.

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exelsis wrote...

Dafuq? We had like 10 MP patches already, and they can't just patch those 2 params? Melkor take them.

Because testing a story content fix like this takes much more work. In fact, I've heard this glitch was caused by them making fixing something to do with Ash on the Citadel shortly before shipping, and then they tested it only on the Citadel because it was so close to release, so they didn't notice it caused the problem in engineering. So if they try to fix this, they'd potentially have to test the entire game with every possible combination of plot variables to make sure it doesn't break something else.

Modifié par Dilandau3000, 05 mai 2012 - 04:44 .


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-N7-Seeker wrote...

Dilandau3000 wrote...

-N7-Seeker wrote...

I am a fan of rock myself, but i prefer her singing. I prefer every quarian singing.

This inspired me, so I made this:

*GMod Snip*

Any ideas for band names? Posted Image


Tali and the Reavers

Tali and the Mancers. Posted Image

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Unschuld wrote...

exelsis wrote...
Dafuq? We had like 10 MP patches already, and they can't just patch those 2 params? Melkor take them.

Multiplayer glitches are a LOT easier to fix than single player, unfortunately.

And if they cared at all for the quality of their work anymore they would fix it. Bioware has a broken system now.

Modifié par exelsis, 05 mai 2012 - 04:42 .


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Dilandau3000 wrote...
Because testing a story content fix like this takes much more work. In fact, I've heard this glitch was caused by them making fixing something to do with Ash on the Citadel shortly before shipping, and then they tested it only on the Citadel because it was so close to release, so they didn't notice it caused the problem in engineering. So if they try to fi this, they'd potentially have to test the entire game with every possible combination of plot variables to make sure it doesn't break something else.


Mine was the TL;DR version, I guess. :P

Good explanation.

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exelsis wrote...
And if they cared at all for the quality of their work anymore they would fix it. Bioware has a broken system now.


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And if more people had a concept of the time and effort/ working through red tape required, there'd be a lot less complaining.

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TrueMadayar wrote...

Deoku wrote...


Yeah it's some strange glitch with the game that requires her :/


Well, as it was posted:

Dusty Everman (BioWare) wrote:

"To my great sadness and
embarrassment, it looks like there is a bug here that got introduced
just before ship. It looks like the test for "is it time for ambient
dialog in engineering" accidentally got switched to "are you good
friends with Ashley". How did this bug happen? I have no idea, and need
to do some detective work. This doesn't just block Ken and Gabby banter,
but I think this blocks some Tali and Garrus banter in engineering too
.
As it stands now to see that banter, I believe you'll need to get
Ashley in your party and take her on missions and/or give Ashley lots of
attention by speaking to her and giving her the gift in the hospital.
If you have Kaidan in your game, obviously this can't be done, and that
sucks.

Though the fix is easy, the difficult part is getting the
fix into a patch of some sort. Getting content fixes into patches is
much harder than you'd think. It's a giant process. I'll try to get that
fix through, but sadly, the odds of getting this type of fix into a
patch is very low. It just kills me that so many of the people who care
about Ken and Gabby (those of you reading this forum) didn't get to see
that content. I tested the heck out of it too for weeks before ship. You
just don't now how sorry I am."

There is a workaround, you need to set two parameters that are missing when you have Kaidan. You even miss a Tali conversation that way, so...well, better do it, if you ever play the game again.

Aww damnit, they make me have such tough choices!! I can eliminate having to hear Garrus constantly flirting Posted Image or miss out on more of Ken and Gabby Posted Image Hmmmm Posted Image "carefully thinks about this"

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Unschuld wrote...

Multiplayer glitches are a LOT easier to fix than single player, unfortunately.


And also much easier to introduce, if I may add that.

I did the workaround with that savegame editor, and it worked on the second try. But I can understand now how it is hard to implement. How to do that without a. invalidating the old savegames, b. confusing other dialogues, especially the Ashley ones and c. replacing other stuff with idiotic comparisons? I don't think they'll do that anytime soon - or at all. You can just edit your savegames, and most people never do a second playthrough, anyway.

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Unschuld wrote...

Dilandau3000 wrote...
Because testing a story content fix like this takes much more work. In fact, I've heard this glitch was caused by them making fixing something to do with Ash on the Citadel shortly before shipping, and then they tested it only on the Citadel because it was so close to release, so they didn't notice it caused the problem in engineering. So if they try to fi this, they'd potentially have to test the entire game with every possible combination of plot variables to make sure it doesn't break something else.

Mine was the TL;DR version, I guess. :P

Good explanation.

It can't break something else unless there is another glitch present in the game that somehow interacts with either the old or new params. The thing I'd be worried about if I was bioware is saves becoming corrupted, or the fix simply not working on any save after ash gets hospitalized.

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Bugs that seem simple to fix can be really really hard to spot. So I'm not surprised nor mad at them at all for it.

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Deoku wrote...

Aww damnit, they make me have such tough choices!! I can eliminate having to hear Garrus constantly flirting Posted Image or miss out on more of Ken and Gabby Posted Image Hmmmm Posted Image "carefully thinks about this"


Would you deny your loyal crewmen of ME2 and ME3 their love and happiness, facing the peril of utter destruction, just because you have a jealousy issue?

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TrueMadayar wrote...

Deoku wrote...

Aww damnit, they make me have such tough choices!! I can eliminate having to hear Garrus constantly flirting Posted Image or miss out on more of Ken and Gabby Posted Image Hmmmm Posted Image "carefully thinks about this"


Would you deny your loyal crewmen of ME2 and ME3 their love and happiness, facing the peril of utter destruction, just because you have a jealousy issue?


 I do when it's the crew member that I am in the middle of romancing as it happens.  So yes, yes I do indeed.Posted Image

Modifié par Deoku, 05 mai 2012 - 04:57 .