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@ispaz
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it was just the hipbone lol, rest was adorable. i just wanted an excuse to use that gif x)

its ok River Tam loved it

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and so did Tali.

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Alright everyone, just finished my SW:KotOR 2 playthrough and am ready to start talking to you again to some extent. I'll be on here for like 10 minutes or so, so you better start bombarding me with things.

Edit: Oh... and uh.... Tali.

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which character does Tali dislike the most in Mass Effect?

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Xen? or... Gerell?

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Cheese of Borg wrote...
"Ahem" Im mass effect assension they actually cover this! :happy:

There are almost no quarian biotics becouse Ezo exposure (pre-natal or otherwise) is virtually imposible with thier suits.


It makes me wonder though where they would be, and how they would become 'biotic' if they need the suits.  The only thing I can think of at this point is that these kind of quarians are performing experiments outside the suit.  Are they legal?  I wouldn't be surprised if they were not...

But I wouldn't be surprised that if these guys were trying to find ways to make quarian biotics, then they might also know things about inter-species mating and stuff like that.  They probably know what we know, but you never know, they may have found a way...

darthrevaninlight wrote...

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which character does Tali dislike the most in Mass Effect?

 

Besides that one volus in ME2?  Admiral Garrel in ME3 or The Illusive Man.

(I heard she also didn't like exelsis or Cheese of Borg because they have...odd behaviors that are repulsive.)

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Awesome chapter Terror!
The children of NOD will kill the council if they have any problems. Kane's will is ultimate.

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What would you say if Tali is a Quman? A genetic modified offspring of her father and an unknown human mother. It would explain why she looks relatively human on her picture and why Shepard' s imagination of Quarians in Legion's virtual reality mission doesn't match the records of the Geth.

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Bfler wrote...

What would you say if Tali is a Quman? A genetic modified offspring of her father and an unknown human mother. It would explain why she looks relatively human on her picture and why Shepard' s imagination of Quarians in Legion's virtual reality mission doesn't match the records of the Geth.


It would be rather interesting.  Though the game doesn't talk much about half-breeds, either because they're not possible, they're illegal or they just aren't seen, period.  I can't imagine the citadel outlawing inter-species breeding though, can't see why it should be.

Oh wait, if Tali was a qman?  Thought you were talking about a kid Shepard and Tali would have.  Um...as far as I can tell, she's 100% quarian.  Can't wrap my mind around that.

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forthary wrote...

Cheese of Borg wrote...
"Ahem" Im mass effect assension they actually cover this! :happy:

There are almost no quarian biotics becouse Ezo exposure (pre-natal or otherwise) is virtually imposible with thier suits.


It makes me wonder though where they would be, and how they would become 'biotic' if they need the suits.  The only thing I can think of at this point is that these kind of quarians are performing experiments outside the suit.  Are they legal?  I wouldn't be surprised if they were not...

But I wouldn't be surprised that if these guys were trying to find ways to make quarian biotics, then they might also know things about inter-species mating and stuff like that.  They probably know what we know, but you never know, they may have found a way...


Probaly Zen screwing arround again!:pinched:

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forthary wrote...


Oh wait, if Tali was a qman?  Thought you were talking about a kid Shepard and Tali would have.  Um...as far as I can tell, she's 100% quarian.  Can't wrap my mind around that.


Where is written that she is a pure Quarian? Nobody says it and it seems also no other Quarian ever saw her face.

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Bfler wrote...

forthary wrote...


Oh wait, if Tali was a qman?  Thought you were talking about a kid Shepard and Tali would have.  Um...as far as I can tell, she's 100% quarian.  Can't wrap my mind around that.


Where is written that she is a pure Quarian? Nobody says it and it seems also no other Quarian ever saw her face.


Well, her father was clearly quarian, as his corpse was seen in ME2.  In ME1, Tali said her mother died due to some airborne infection.  In ME2, Admiral Shala'Raan stated that she interlinked suits with Raan, which pretty much nails that both of her parents were quarians.

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Probaly Zen screwing arround again![smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/pinched.png[/smilie]

 

I doubt it.  If anything, she would try to make geth *rest of comment removed*

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Terrorize69 wrote...

Chapter 17 is up on Fanfiction.net and on my blog :) Both can be found in my sig.

Enjoy!


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forthary wrote...

Bfler wrote...

forthary wrote...


Oh wait, if Tali was a qman?  Thought you were talking about a kid Shepard and Tali would have.  Um...as far as I can tell, she's 100% quarian.  Can't wrap my mind around that.


Where is written that she is a pure Quarian? Nobody says it and it seems also no other Quarian ever saw her face.


Well, her father was clearly quarian, as his corpse was seen in ME2.  In ME1, Tali said her mother died due to some airborne infection.  In ME2, Admiral Shala'Raan stated that she interlinked suits with Raan, which pretty much nails that both of her parents were quarians.



It could be something like her Quarian stepmother or the "container" of her embryo. 
Or Raan and her father didn't tell her the truth to not jeopardize her feelings and position in Quarian society.

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You can't hybridize two species that aren't even chemically compatible.

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Dilandau3000 wrote...

You can't hybridize two species that aren't even chemically compatible.


I bet Mordin could find a way. :(

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Dilandau3000 wrote...

You can't hybridize two species that aren't even chemically compatible.


Genetic modification. You don't know how advanced science in the ME universe is.


It was only a thought but it could be a possible excuse for her photoshopped picture and as I said the explanation for the appearence of the Quarians in the Geth mission.

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But why would Tali be part-human? What would we gain, plot-wise, if that were the case? If it's just to explain her human-like appearance, then why didn't anyone notice that she was different in the first years of her life before getting her first suit? Why didn't Tali ever notice she was different from other quarians? Why did it somehow only affect her face and not the shape of her legs or the number of toes/fingers?

Furthermore, the time scale is weird. Humans made first contact with aliens in 2157. Tali was born in 2161. That's an awfully short amount of time for someone to create a hybrid. And then there's still the question of why they'd want to do so in the first place.

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Dilandau3000 wrote...

But why would Tali be part-human? What would we gain, plot-wise, if that were the case? If it's just to explain her human-like appearance, then why didn't anyone notice that she was different in the first years of her life before getting her first suit? Why didn't Tali ever notice she was different from other quarians? Why did it somehow only affect her face and not the shape of her legs or the number of toes/fingers?

Furthermore, the time scale is weird. Humans made first contact with aliens in 2157. Tali was born in 2161. That's an awfully short amount of time for someone to create a hybrid. And then there's still the question of why they'd want to do so in the first place.


Agreed. Tali is 100% Quarian. You don't have any proof that says otherwise. Her face? You don't know how the other quarians look alike.

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forthary wrote...


Cheese of Borg wrote...

Probaly Zen screwing arround again!:pinched:

 

I doubt it.  If anything, she would try to make geth *rest of comment removed*


Thankyou for not saying what you wer about to say.:mellow:

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Dilandau3000 wrote...

But why would Tali be part-human? What would we gain, plot-wise, if that were the case? If it's just to explain her human-like appearance, then why didn't anyone notice that she was different in the first years of her life before getting her first suit? Why didn't Tali ever notice she was different from other quarians? Why did it somehow only affect her face and not the shape of her legs or the number of toes/fingers?

Furthermore, the time scale is weird. Humans made first contact with aliens in 2157. Tali was born in 2161. That's an awfully short amount of time for someone to create a hybrid. And then there's still the question of why they'd want to do so in the first place.


You don't know if any other Quarian saw her as baby, without suit and mabe she also never saw a Quarian without suit or she knows it and doesn't say it.
In other series, like f.e. Start Trek, often only the face is affected.

And why they did create it? Maybe her father and real mother wanted a baby. The same reason why people discuss the possible child between Shepard and Tali.


But as I said it is only a thought. If you don't like it then forget what I wrote.

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Bfler wrote...

You don't know if any other Quarian saw her as baby, without suit and mabe she also never saw a Quarian without suit or she knows it and doesn't say it.
In other series, like f.e. Start Trek, often only the face is affected.

Star Trek takes a laughable approach to inter-species hybrids that completely flies in the face of what would actually be possible. They even did that episode to explain all life in the galaxy was seeded by some ancient race to explain how it is possible (and committed even more egregious errors there). Also, most species in Star Trek don't differ in anything but the face to begin with. What you're saying is like having a hybrid between a human and Species 8472, and then only the face being human-like.

Mass Effect has taken the much more scientifically valid approach by not having any hybrids. There is no evidence anyone has ever successfully hybridized any species (with the possible exception of the reapers/collectors).


And why they did create it? Maybe her father and real mother wanted a baby. The same reason why people discuss the possible child between Shepard and Tali.

So Tali's father had a human lover? That he somehow met during the four short years between human first contact and Tali's birth? And that no one knew about (we're told in Ascension that Kahlee and Gillian are the first humans to set foot on the Migrant Fleet, so no one could've known about this one).

It may be "just a thought", but it flies in the face of all common sense to me.

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Thanks Terror

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Dilandau3000 wrote...

Bfler wrote...

You don't know if any other Quarian saw her as baby, without suit and mabe she also never saw a Quarian without suit or she knows it and doesn't say it.
In other series, like f.e. Start Trek, often only the face is affected.

Star Trek takes a laughable approach to inter-species hybrids that completely flies in the face of what would actually be possible. They even did that episode to explain all life in the galaxy was seeded by some ancient race to explain how it is possible (and committed even more egregious errors there). Also, most species in Star Trek don't differ in anything but the face to begin with. What you're saying is like having a hybrid between a human and Species 8472, and then only the face being human-like.

Mass Effect has taken the much more scientifically valid approach by not having any hybrids. There is no evidence anyone has ever successfully hybridized any species (with the possible exception of the reapers/collectors).


And why they did create it? Maybe her father and real mother wanted a baby. The same reason why people discuss the possible child between Shepard and Tali.

So Tali's father had a human lover? That he somehow met during the four short years between human first contact and Tali's birth? And that no one knew about (we're told in Ascension that Kahlee and Gillian are the first humans to set foot on the Migrant Fleet, so no one could've known about this one).

It may be "just a thought", but it flies in the face of all common sense to me.


Gonna have to agree with Dilan on this one. It's just illogical, that after four years, the animoscity that the majority of the entire galaxy felt toward the human race would not only be gone, but that a Quarian would have fallen in love with a human and vice-versa, and that they would have the technology to create a hybrid baby, and that everyone on the Migrant fleet would accept Tali as one of their own.

I could see why you'd think so if and this is a big IF, if Tali was the only human looking Quarian; however, that is not the case and it's been established via codex that the Quarian race, as a whole, are all human like in appearance, the most human like in fact.

It's been said before, but I'll reilliterate it; the Quarians may have done some base line test to compare themselves to the human race, and who knows, in real life, there could be Quarians, and we're related because we look so similar, but in this game, it's illogical to think that the Quarians and humans are at all related based on the facts that have been presented to us already.

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Dilandau3000 wrote...

There is no evidence anyone has ever successfully hybridized any species (with the possible exception of the reapers/collectors).


David in Overlord. He is some kind of human machine hybrid when you find him.

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Bfler wrote...

Dilandau3000 wrote...

There is no evidence anyone has ever successfully hybridized any species (with the possible exception of the reapers/collectors).


David in Overlord. He is some kind of human machine hybrid when you find him.



Combing AI technology, and two different organic species who share nothing in common, are two different things completely. In real life, we're getting close to creating virtual interface; look it up, google is making great strides, and we'll eventually get to the point of interfacing on a virtual scale with our entire brain, probably, within 50-100 years.

However, to combine a human, with say, a dog, is centuries, if not millenia away; let alone two different organic species that don't even share the same acid type.

Edit: Typos. Also, I'm bored, people should pm me and ask me hard questions; I'll answer em all, and post em here, for the lulz.

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