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[Niulus Kriyk]

That white quarian armor reminds me of Meagan from Deus Ex: Human Rev.

Modifié par YungD815, 15 septembre 2011 - 01:13 .

[Webkahve]

[Angmir]

ChaplainTappman wrote...

Angmir wrote...

Maybe I have poor eyes but I have no idea what is in the area you pointed. What is your theory exacly ??

For me these are just shards o glass and a shadow of something.

@Havoc 10k - sorry if i had missunderstood you. I wasnt trying to laught you off anyway. Beg you a pardon if I did.

There's something that, if you're looking for Tali, looks kind of like a shoulders-up portrait of Tali painted on the wall behind the bed.

Edit: Totally unrelated thought: Stephen Hawking is not great reading when you're trying to write fiction.

Yeah now i kind of see that

In fact this is almost 90% suro to be Tali helmet painting. It is so subtel thought that it is rather obviously too just this art authors easter egg a tribute to Tali. Nice find though I wouldnt have reognised it if you didnt pointed this out thumbs up

PS> and looking closely on that art I dont hink it is Shepards loft on the Normandy. looks like this room on the art is much wider (on the left)

Modifié par Angmir, 15 septembre 2011 - 11:00 .

[sites32]

Webkahve wrote...

I like it. Quarian pride galaxy wide.

[Dethklokx7]

Im pretty sure there will be a middle choice to have both Geth and Quarian on your side. But having a full Paragon or Renegade Meter to make it possible

[Eyeshield21]

sitesunseen wrote...

Webkahve wrote...

I like it. Quarian pride galaxy wide.

I agree.

[CroGamer002]

I was thinking.

What kind of government, you guys think, Quarians had before Geth Rebellions?

[Dethklokx7]

jreezy wrote...

Webkahve wrote...

nice Quarian armor set

Tali's wedding suit.

LOL Do you Tali take Shepard XD

[ChaplainTappman]

Mesina2 wrote...

I was thinking.

What kind of government, you guys think, Quarians had before Geth Rebellions?

It's hard to say. There's not much we can extrapolate from, since their entire psychology was altered as a result of the Exile. It's also true that we don't even know a lot about human governance in the ME universe. We know the Systems Alliance, but they only have jurisdiction in space. On Earth, individual national governments rule.

My guess, though? I suspect democracy in some form was the predominant form of governance. I don't see a people predisposed to authoritarianism setting up a democratic government after the exile. Possibly a superpresidential system, like Russia has now.

[sites32]

I thinking a socialist form of government, only because of how Quarians care more for the people instead of the individual. But tali does say if the homeworld is taken back the structure they have now may desolve and a form of democracy could be implemented.

[ChaplainTappman]

sitesunseen wrote...

I thinking a socialist form of government, only because of how Quarians care more for the people instead of the individual. But tali does say if the homeworld is taken back the structure they have now may desolve and a form of democracy could be implemented.

It's possible but, again, that's post-Exile quarian culture. It's hard to know what elements of their culture they kept, and what they created anew out of necessity.

[sites32]

ChaplainTappman wrote...

sitesunseen wrote...

I thinking a socialist form of government, only because of how Quarians care more for the people instead of the individual. But tali does say if the homeworld is taken back the structure they have now may desolve and a form of democracy could be implemented.

It's possible but, again, that's post-Exile quarian culture. It's hard to know what elements of their culture they kept, and what they created anew out of necessity.

Agreed. But the board and conclave have kept the Quarians alive sense the exile 300 yrs ago, thats quite a long time without a world to call home. They may choose to keep the gov the way it is.

[ChaplainTappman]

sitesunseen wrote...

Agreed. But the board and conclave have kept the Quarians alive sense the exile 300 yrs ago, thats quite a long time without a world to call home. They may choose to keep the gov the way it is.

Oh, no doubt. I was answering Mesina's question about pre-Exile government. When they find a homeworld, whether or not it's Rannoch, I'd be surprised if they changed all that much. Superpresidentialism describes their current system pretty well, actually.

[sites32]

ChaplainTappman wrote...

sitesunseen wrote...

Agreed. But the board and conclave have kept the Quarians alive sense the exile 300 yrs ago, thats quite a long time without a world to call home. They may choose to keep the gov the way it is.

Oh, no doubt. I was answering Mesina's question about pre-Exile government. When they find a homeworld, whether or not it's Rannoch, I'd be surprised if they changed all that much. Superpresidentialism describes their current system pretty well, actually.

Good point.

[P38 ace]

their current government is almost a perfect utopian example of Karl Marxs social communisum, no one really competes with them to under mind their limited production

if no one belives me just look it up on wiki, its a near perfect, perfect example, that accually works

[ChaplainTappman]

P38 ace wrote...

their current government is almost a perfect utopian example of Karl Marxs social communisum, no one really competes with them to under mind their limited production

if no one belives me just look it up on wiki, its a near perfect, perfect example, that accually works

Yeah, but that only works because of the limitations of their nomadic, ship-bound lifestyle. Once they have access to excess resources, and once failing to wholly cooperate is stripped of its life-or-death consequences, economic competition will take root. Once they claim a homeworld, the only way they'd be able to maintain their current socio-economic model is to have it imposed forcibly by an authoritarian government.

[P38 ace]

you are so right, It only works when they are in the foltilla, out side that they will have to change to mixed scocialist economy (which i mide you is differant than a pure communist like they have now)

once(if) they reclaim their homeworld they will have to switch to a scocialist government not unlike they have now, just slitly tweeked, to work with the corperation that will unduptable take root.

[Cheese of Borg]

P38 ace wrote...

you are so right, It only works when they are in the foltilla, out side that they will have to change to mixed scocialist economy (which i mide you is differant than a pure communist like they have now)

once(if) they reclaim their homeworld they will have to switch to a scocialist government not unlike they have now, just slitly tweeked, to work with the corperation that will unduptable take root.

Or mabey they will revert to CAPITALISM!!!

[Dunmer of Redoran]

Quarians on Rannoch will turn into an agrarian socialist society. They have an entire world for 17 million flotilla quarians plus however many quarians live outside the fleet. That means they have a whole planet for a race with the combined population that might be less than the combined populations of modern-day Norway, Sweden and Finland and Denmark.

Translation: that's a lot of free space to become a breadbasket world.

Modifié par DaftArbiter, 16 septembre 2011 - 12:40 .

[ChaplainTappman]

DaftArbiter wrote...

Quarians on Rannoch will turn into an agrarian socialist society. They have an entire world for 17 million flotilla quarians plus however many quarians live outside the fleet. That means they have a whole planet for a race with the combined population that might be less than the combined populations of modern-day Norway, Sweden and Finland and Denmark.

Translation: that's a lot of free space to become a breadbasket world.

Two problems with your theory:

A: Becoming a breadbasket world heralds capitalism more than socialism. That's what happens when you have excess resources. You sell them.

B: I imagine they'll be far more focused on population growth than agrarian development.

[Ravensword]

Are the Quarians communists? Are people here using communism interchangeably w/ socialism? I'm still looking for a Quarian starship that has a hammer and sickle but they seem to be more of a collectivist society than communist. Please enlighten me.

[P38 ace]

First off, all govenments in the world(on earth) are socialist to differing degrees, the moment you have a goverment regulate or own a peice of property you are no longer a Capitolistic socity

Sceond, the 3 major types of economics mianly deal with how and where money it disribuited, not wheather, you sell excess goods or not

third you can have any type of businesses, and make it work with any of the 3 econmics systems, (if you do it right)

my idea, they will also get the colinies back, and wheather or not the have Peace with the Geth or not, that is still a lot of space, they could do Breadbaskets, but i was thinking Tach development or planet wide shipyards.

Sorry for spelling, its really late where i am at, and i don't feel like spell cheaking right now

Modifié par P38 ace, 16 septembre 2011 - 01:37 .

[Dunmer of Redoran]

ChaplainTappman wrote...

DaftArbiter wrote...

Quarians on Rannoch will turn into an agrarian socialist society. They have an entire world for 17 million flotilla quarians plus however many quarians live outside the fleet. That means they have a whole planet for a race with the combined population that might be less than the combined populations of modern-day Norway, Sweden and Finland and Denmark.

Translation: that's a lot of free space to become a breadbasket world.

Two problems with your theory:

A: Becoming a breadbasket world heralds capitalism more than socialism. That's what happens when you have excess resources. You sell them.

B: I imagine they'll be far more focused on population growth than agrarian development.

Socialists can't sell excess goodies? You're right that they'll be focused on population growth, though, but that goes hand-in-hand with agriculture. They get more food, they sell food, they get more other things, but they'll still have enough food to support huge families. If each family of quarians has four children, within four generations will have a crude total of over 1 billion births if their total population right now is at 18 million. If the quarians take it even further in terms of births, that number will go up even more.

[Xarathox]

ChaplainTappman wrote...

sitesunseen wrote...

Agreed. But the board and conclave have kept the Quarians alive sense the exile 300 yrs ago, thats quite a long time without a world to call home. They may choose to keep the gov the way it is.

Oh, no doubt. I was answering Mesina's question about pre-Exile government. When they find a homeworld, whether or not it's Rannoch, I'd be surprised if they changed all that much. Superpresidentialism describes their current system pretty well, actually.

That might come with complications later down the line if they get a new homeworld.

The current system of representatives from each ship (that's fifty thousand of them) seems loosely clan structured. In it's current form, that would be a logistical nightmare to maintain. Claiming a home world would allow their population to explode to levels higher than they've maintianed for 300 years.

Double the number of representatives, and you're looking at all kinds of hell trying to keep any semblance of order in the system that's currently in place. They would have to centralize larger city states in the future to maintain the current form of government system just to keep things sane.

I honestly see them adopting a socialist government when/if they find a homeworld as that's basically the only life they know as it is right now.

[Iclonic]

P38 ace wrote...

you are so right, It only works when they are in the foltilla, out side that they will have to change to mixed scocialist economy (which i mide you is differant than a pure communist like they have now)

once(if) they reclaim their homeworld they will have to switch to a scocialist government not unlike they have now, just slitly tweeked, to work with the corperation that will unduptable take root.

Or, we could go to Mixed Capitalism.  Free Economy is the way to go.