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Male quarians. The Reegar Carbine.

Discuss.

(certainly beats the topic of abomination creation...)

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So do quarian suits have built in showers or something? Or do they just stay so perfectly pristine that there is no need?

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lolzfuchismo wrote...

So do quarian suits have built in showers or something? Or do they just stay so perfectly pristine that there is no need?


Well considering that taking off the suits is a pain in the rear and staying decently clean keeps things healthy, yeah, the inside has to have something to purge the nastyness combat and just day to day living produce.

N7Kopper wrote...

Male quarians. The Reegar Carbine.

Discuss.

(certainly beats the topic of abomination creation...)


It's MP crap. Pass.

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Momentarily going off-topic, I think they squandered outside-of-Shepard resources in Galaxy of War. I agree with them being essential to getting the best ending to be honest. Think they should have gone further, including promoted MP characters and Randall Enzo in Priority: Earth as playable characters (actually playable, not just squadmates) if you beat the relevant content (a not-sucky P:E, though) even to the point of getting them to the Crucible instead of Shepard if circumstances permit.

Adding MP support offline, in LAN play (you already get two discs!) and splitscreen too. And the Phoenix characters and new modded Mattock are a good step toward integrating ME:I features.


But on-topic...
Does anyone else get this niggling feeling that they really mishandled the death of Dorn'Hazt? I mean, he says he lost too much blood, but he cleans engine parts. He's no qualified doctor, or medic. Neither is Tali (hell, even in ME1 she's basically an Engineer who has a Shotgun skill rather than First Aid) and pretty much the only one with any medicinal skill whatsoever in your squad is Liara, and she's not that kind of doctor.

So, Shepard is the one most qualified to make the call. Even if he didn't have First Aid as a skill in 1, he would still have Unity for revival, and gain First Aid rolled into said Unity in 2. And considering he's offering the poor guy medi-gel, it makes you feel like he could have and should have lived, and his death was plot-mandated so as to hit the player a little. (Much like Thane lasted way longer against Kai Leng than he should have done to give you a hope spot)

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I was thinking it was more like a safe guess. If you are sitting in a pool of your own blood, chances are that it's very very bad for you. Medigel can only do so much. Shame though since Jona now has no one...

*sniffle*

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He's still unqualified. A good Paragon interrupt to reassure him and dump some of my medigel stock into his body, or a Renegade interrupt to shout him down, get him to stop whining and take his medicine like a good boy would work. Even if he still died, and I only wasted three good uses of 'gel. It'd still be worth the go.

Shepard is the most qualified to make the call. A "safe guess" is often counterproductive. We don't know our own bodies very well, surprisingly enough.

Modifié par N7Kopper, 25 mai 2012 - 05:12 .


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Well yes, paragon for trying to help. But he was dying anyway, too much suit rupture etc... No way he can survive.

And renegade for shooting him, not necessary i think. I mean what he is done to you, ever?

Btw, his blood is red in that scene :-)

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Shajar wrote...

Well yes, paragon for trying to help. But he was dying anyway, too much suit rupture etc... No way he can survive.

And renegade for shooting him, not necessary i think. I mean what he is done to you, ever?

Btw, his blood is red in that scene :-)

Ugh, the whole point is that he's not qualified to make that call. He probably could have survived.

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N7Kopper wrote...

Momentarily going off-topic, I think they squandered outside-of-Shepard resources in Galaxy of War. I agree with them being essential to getting the best ending to be honest. Think they should have gone further, including promoted MP characters and Randall Enzo in Priority: Earth as playable characters (actually playable, not just squadmates) if you beat the relevant content (a not-sucky P:E, though) even to the point of getting them to the Crucible instead of Shepard if circumstances permit.

Adding MP support offline, in LAN play (you already get two discs!) and splitscreen too. And the Phoenix characters and new modded Mattock are a good step toward integrating ME:I features.


But on-topic...
Does anyone else get this niggling feeling that they really mishandled the death of Dorn'Hazt? I mean, he says he lost too much blood, but he cleans engine parts. He's no qualified doctor, or medic. Neither is Tali (hell, even in ME1 she's basically an Engineer who has a Shotgun skill rather than First Aid) and pretty much the only one with any medicinal skill whatsoever in your squad is Liara, and she's not that kind of doctor.

So, Shepard is the one most qualified to make the call. Even if he didn't have First Aid as a skill in 1, he would still have Unity for revival, and gain First Aid rolled into said Unity in 2. And considering he's offering the poor guy medi-gel, it makes you feel like he could have and should have lived, and his death was plot-mandated so as to hit the player a little. (Much like Thane lasted way longer against Kai Leng than he should have done to give you a hope spot)

*beautysnip*

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To your off-topic discussion, I also think that we should have seen more in the Priority: Earth mission, and that the team should have gone further.  I don't really care so much about being able to play as someone else (as it would detract from Shepard's story, which at this point is essentially your story of Shepard), but it certainly would be nice to see who else has joined the fight, and have them actively participate (i.e. the N7 team shows up from multiplayer, krogans charging down Brutes or Banshees, geth collosi and primes blasting Harvesters out of the sky, etc.)

I'm liking the things they are doing with multiplayer, but am also curious as to what they can do in turn for the singleplayer with it.  Putting the new powers and weapons out as another free DLC for singleplayer (as it is for multiplayer) would be much appreciated, once they've created the Extended Cut (and assuming that it helps to make the current ending tolerable).  The splitscreen and offline LAN support is sadly becoming more a thing of the past, and while I believe it would be worth it to put in the effort, it probably won't happen (I have two Xboxs at home, fortunately enough, and play with my brother on our separate accounts; the splitscreen would be most welcome for the many who do not).

As for Dorn'Hazt, I'm trying to remember.  He's the quarian you encounter dying before you disable the anti-air guns in the rescue mission for Zaal'Korris, right?  Yes, it was mishandled; a plot-mandated attempt to get at the player's emotions, rather than use logic at hand.  I think it might have been a way for the writer's to "put a face" on the pain and desperation of the quarians planetside (so to speak).

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18 Brains wrote...
As for Dorn'Hazt, I'm trying to remember.  He's the quarian you encounter dying before you disable the anti-air guns in the rescue mission for Zaal'Korris, right?  Yes, it was mishandled; a plot-mandated attempt to get at the player's emotions, rather than use logic at hand.  I think it might have been a way for the writer's to "put a face" on the pain and desperation of the quarians planetside (so to speak).


I'm more affected by the fact that we watched both of Jona's parents die. Seriously, that hit me like a ton of bricks when i played through all three games and my brain picked up on it.

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Well, playing as other characters would be optional.
But if it truly is your story, you should be able to take time to play as characters you've previously played as if you choose. (Well, except perhaps Jacob and Joker, but maybe even them)

Modifié par N7Kopper, 25 mai 2012 - 05:42 .


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N7Kopper wrote...

Male quarians. The Reegar Carbine.

Discuss.

(certainly beats the topic of abomination creation...)


Reegar shotgun........LOL

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Ticonderoga117 wrote...

I'm more affected by the fact that we watched both of Jona's parents die. Seriously, that hit me like a ton of bricks when i played through all three games and my brain picked up on it.


On that, we can agree.  The same thing happened when I found out that the PTSD asari in the hospital was talking about Joker's sister on Tiptree, and that Shepard never even tells him.  For Shepard and Tali having kids after the war (genetics aside), Jona would be my best bet on adopting a quarian, if his guardians/Captain were to allow it.  No child should endure that grief.

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N7Kopper wrote...

Well, playing as other characters would be optional.
But if it truly is your story, you should be able to take time to play as characters you've previously played as if you choose. (Well, except perhaps Jacob and Joker, but maybe even them)


I see your point.  And we already did play as Joker (albeit briefly) in ME 2, during the Collector abduction of the Normandy crew.  I don't see why the option can't exist, and it would be interesting to see the Reaper war from a different perspective (like Anderson leading the resistance on Earth, for example).  There is a lot of untapped potential in Mass Effect 3, and seeing as there is two discs for the game, they can certainly do more in that regard.

Modifié par 18 Brains, 25 mai 2012 - 05:55 .


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Nearing 2:00 a.m. here. Trying to come up with a solid fan-fic idea but will sleep on it for now.

Keelah se'lai!

Modifié par 18 Brains, 25 mai 2012 - 06:00 .


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N7Kopper wrote...

Shajar wrote...

Well yes, paragon for trying to help. But he was dying anyway, too much suit rupture etc... No way he can survive.

And renegade for shooting him, not necessary i think. I mean what he is done to you, ever?

Btw, his blood is red in that scene :-)

Ugh, the whole point is that he's not qualified to make that call. He probably could have survived.


Yeah he is not :? But with that amount damage i think little medgel wont help, he has infection for use also and his fleet cant help him anymore.


But yes, should be chance to choose how things go

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18 Brains wrote...

Nearing 2:00 a.m. here. Trying to come up with a solid fan-fic idea but will sleep on it for now.

Keelah sel'ai!


Morning here :wub:

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18 Brains wrote...

Ticonderoga117 wrote...

I'm more affected by the fact that we watched both of Jona's parents die. Seriously, that hit me like a ton of bricks when i played through all three games and my brain picked up on it.


On that, we can agree. (....) For Shepard and Tali having kids after the war (genetics aside), Jona would be my best bet on adopting a quarian, if his guardians/Captain were to allow it.  No child should endure that grief.



The Jona side-story is definitely sad Image IPB.
And adopation shouldn't be a problem.

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18 Brains wrote...

N7Kopper wrote...

Well, playing as other characters would be optional.
But if it truly is your story, you should be able to take time to play as characters you've previously played as if you choose. (Well, except perhaps Jacob and Joker, but maybe even them)


I see your point.  And we already did play as Joker (albeit briefly) in ME 2, during the Collector abduction of the Normandy crew.

I was referring to that. It made Joker a playable character, as opposed to an NPC. And Mass Effect: Galaxy gave Jacob the same treatment. It'd actually be worth the bonus for completing Galaxy (as the one you get in ME2 is pretty lacklustre) if there was a Jacob section you could play in if you beat it, and do better than Jacob would normally, positively impacting the final push.

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Guys go help Tali
http://social.biowar...53/polls/34317/

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Shajar wrote...

Well yes, paragon for trying to help. But he was dying anyway, too much suit rupture etc... No way he can survive.

And renegade for shooting him, not necessary i think. I mean what he is done to you, ever?

Btw, his blood is red in that scene :-)


Well, id try to help him.  I mean, im sure Tali would do the same for a fellow friendly human that needed aid.  But I wouldn't shoot him in the head unless there was a 0 percent chance he would survive and he would die a very painful death.  But, that would be under rare circumstances, I would have to get approval from Tali before I do something like that first.  I don't want her or myself to feel bad killing somebody that could have been saved.

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Shajar wrote...

Guys go help Tali
http://social.biowar...53/polls/34317/


From what I get, "helping " Tali there is not really HELP !
(The vote is about least favourite ! Check Round 1 !!!)

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Well

atleast he made it to the home world

Tom80 wrote...

Shajar wrote...

Guys go help Tali
http://social.biowar...53/polls/34317/


From what I get, "helping " Tali there is not really HELP !
(The vote is about least favourite ! Check Round 1 !!!)

 

I know, others are trying to throw Tali out, vote another one :D

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Shajar wrote...

Well

atleast he made it to the home world

Tom80 wrote...

Shajar wrote...

Guys go help Tali
http://social.biowar...53/polls/34317/


From what I get, "helping " Tali there is not really HELP !
(The vote is about least favourite ! Check Round 1 !!!)

 

I know, others are trying to throw Tali out, vote another one :D


Saw that toooo late Image IPB !
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Your fault....

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Tali disapproves of people who do not read the precautions.