18 Brains wrote...
Example:
"It'll be years before we can live without our suits completely, but right now..." Tali removes her visor, *face reveal*.
"...Right now, I have this..." turns to Shepard, smiling, "...and this." Epic kiss ensues, leaving Admiral Raan to gawk in the background as the scene fades to black. The sound of Tali's gasps and moans fill the air...
Darman wrote...
Just recieved my issue of ME Homeworlds #2. I can only advice you to NOT buy it.
The art is, as you all know, terrible. The story is even worse. Its illogical, contains wrong facts, for example the Quarian blood, its too many content and places on just a few pages. It feels rushed. You get to read names Tali never mentioned before. Its horrible.
When it comes to her pilgrimage and how she got hands on the geth-data, I'll stick to the Fanfic by DementedAssassin on DA, which is the best fanfic I've read so far. Its far mroe realistic and better written then this piece of s*** what they call a ME comic.
BW and Dark Horse: This is really not what our favorite character deserves.
Mr.BlazenGlazen wrote...
Hey guys, is it alright if I can post an excerpt from a new chapter I'm working on here? I want to know what you guys think!
Shajar wrote...
Messier87 wrote...
I've been noticing this double standard ever since people started making threads about Tali being "too human."
Let's get a few things straight: Tali being essentially a human is one's opinion, not fact. It's an opinion that is based on one's own set of criteria on what it means for a humanoid organism to be "alien". It's subjective, and most certainly depends on personal preferences. You cannot deny that one's headcanon of Tali is shaped on said preferences; this is much more complicated than simply liking or disliking "aliens."
So, here's my opinion about all this.
If you look at the photo and conclude that Tali is nothing but a human with white eyes and "sharpie markings" on her body, this is an opinion based on your own perception. I find this perception to be distorted.
Tali's final design is a combination of several priliminary face designs that can be seen in the Mass Effect concept art. She has a human face for a foundation, an "omega" shaped birthmark on her forehead, white irises with gray sclera, and additional birthmarks on her neck and chest (or possible cybernetic augmentation). Her eyes are set wide apart and angled, and she has a unique nose that is not characteristic of humans. Then, of course, we have her eloganted earlobes. As my criteria for what makes a human "human" are obviously different, I cannot conclude that Tali's design is as simple as you describe.
Would I say that Tali looks similar to a human? Yes, and I expected this. However, to argue that Tali looks "too human," and needs a better face that is more "alien"... I'm noticing contradictions.
Tali's features: unique eye and nose structure, ears, long neck, swept-back shoulders, narrow waist, curved shins, less digits, etc. You cannot dismiss these features in your claim that Tali is essentially a human while simultaneously posting an image of a human female face with glowing eyes, interesting complexion, and tendrils for hair as your headcanon. Unless there is more to your headcanon that you haven't already told us (what was it again, silver irises, blue sclera, toned body on the level of a fitness model, and sharp incisors), I fail to see how Kerrigan Tali is a significant improvement over what we have.
Same goes for Tali in that little "Tali Deserves a Better Face" signature. Once again, human female face for a foundation, white irises and sclera, cybernetic augmentation on cheeks, and purple skin. So if Tali needs a better face because she's "too human," how are these designs any better?
No, Tali does not need a better face in my opinion. What Miss vas Normandy could use is a 3D render, in-game, of the face she already has. Good can come from that design if you allow yourself to imagine it from an entirely new, positive perspective. Certainly not a perspective of deception and laziness that one tends to associate with the photoshop.
As for Tali needing to be more alien. Well, again, back to those criteria. I find the subtleties in the canon design (particularly the nose and eye structure) to be sufficiently alien and in-tune with what we already know of Tali. Tali doesn't need frills, ridges, flanges, flaps, starfishes, Ross Perot ears, etc. to be "more alien." A design of Tali with more of these features does not necessarily make it "better." I've noticed plenty of artists that tend to go overboard with these features in reaction to the photo, ultimately producing an alien that is wearing Tali's suit, and not producing Tali. What the real challenge would be is not to mindlessly add such features just for the sake of doing so. The challenge would be add features that are not characteristic of humans with subtlety, while simultaneously adhering to Tali's essense. I can think of several artists (Revan, in particular) that can do just that.
Not like anyone read this far anyway, but I felt the need to get some things off my chest.
tl;dr: I respect your opinion if you want to say that Tali is "too human," and claim that her face needs a redesign. However, don't contradict yourselves by stating this opinion while supporting the use of another Tali which is just as human as the original. Unless you just happen dislike anything that resembles canon Tali, perhaps you guys need to rethink what you truly want.
Personally, I don't think Tali needs a new face. While I'm disappointed in the poor depiction of her anatomy in the photoshop, I'm happy with the canon design and would rather see that face on a 3D model in-game. We'll just have to agree to disagree on this, as my criteria for what constitutes a human and alien are different from yours. I don't see the need in adding "alien" features to Tali with no thought or purpose other than to fulfill some requirement to make Tali different from what we have, especially when the final product is no longer a representation of Tali. Again, all in my opinion.
Good day.
That was impressive "Ace" you pull out. Very much agree with you, i lack social skills to write anything like this even if i want
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Modifié par Droidsbane42, 01 juin 2012 - 08:29 .
Droidsbane42 wrote...
My latest artwork featuring Sheps favourite Quarian on the Normandy
http://droidsbane.de...epard-303939660
http://droidsbane.de...n-One-305469994
http://droidsbane.de...happy-305466561
Shajar wrote...
Droidsbane42 wrote...
http://droidsbane.de...happy-305466561
Modifié par Mr.BlazenGlazen, 01 juin 2012 - 11:13 .
Modifié par Olueq, 02 juin 2012 - 01:31 .
Gust4v wrote...
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Modifié par Olueq, 02 juin 2012 - 01:32 .
Hmm... i dont think so...lolzfuchismo wrote...
wouldn't her nose profile and glowy eyes sort of appear a little elfish?
Olueq wrote...
Lol, I love tali so much so I collect anything Tali related unfortunately this includes the comic.
lolzfuchismo wrote...
wouldn't her nose profile and glowy eyes sort of appear a little elfish?
That's because nobody knows what their hearing apparatus looks like.Shajar wrote...
lolzfuchismo wrote...
wouldn't her nose profile and glowy eyes sort of appear a little elfish?
Nope, and she does not have elf ears either. It just many fanpics which can make people misunderstood canon face
Modifié par Confused-Shepard, 02 juin 2012 - 10:01 .
N7Kopper wrote...
My best guess would be he's talking suits.
Because - whilst you don't see it in-game due to the nature of the Unreal 3 engine, quarians are supposed to be smaller and weaker than humans.
I'm pretty sure it's somewhere in the books.Confused-Shepard wrote...
N7Kopper wrote...
My best guess would be he's talking suits.
Because - whilst you don't see it in-game due to the nature of the Unreal 3 engine, quarians are supposed to be smaller and weaker than humans.
Really? Although I like the concept of a species bulit like trucks taken down to near frailty because of their weak immune systems. Is this in the codex or in the books?
From the wiki: "Quarians are generally shorter and of slighter build than humans"N7Kopper wrote...
I'm pretty sure it's somewhere in the books.Confused-Shepard wrote...
N7Kopper wrote...
My best guess would be he's talking suits.
Because - whilst you don't see it in-game due to the nature of the Unreal 3 engine, quarians are supposed to be smaller and weaker than humans.
Really? Although I like the concept of a species bulit like trucks taken down to near frailty because of their weak immune systems. Is this in the codex or in the books?
Ascention? I think that's the one with the quarian mask on the front.
I'm also pretty sure if quarians were built like trucks, their multiplayer Fitness talent would reflect that somehow, like the krogan version.
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