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[Terrorize69]

N7Kopper wrote...

Terrorize69 wrote...

N7Kopper wrote...

Your fault for trying to forcibly change Tali's sexuality. :happy:

I don't need to change it it's there for all to see, Tali is bi/gay, or she is in a femshep play through.

In a maleshep play through there's no evidence to say shes gay/bi. It's the complete opposit in a femshep game.

Not romancable. Therefore not.
Proof of the pudding? In the eating.

Cause femshep says no

Doesn't stop Tali using her nerve stim program while fantasising about her although

[N7Kopper]

Terrorize69 wrote...

N7Kopper wrote...

Terrorize69 wrote...

N7Kopper wrote...

Your fault for trying to forcibly change Tali's sexuality. :happy:

I don't need to change it it's there for all to see, Tali is bi/gay, or she is in a femshep play through.

In a maleshep play through there's no evidence to say shes gay/bi. It's the complete opposit in a femshep game.

Not romancable. Therefore not.
Proof of the pudding? In the eating.

Cause femshep says no

Doesn't stop Tali using her nerve stim program while fantasising about her although

Uh, no. Tali pretty explicitly shuts up, not wanting Shepard to think what she's probably thinking. Link me to a video proving otherwise.

And I'm having a hard time finding any Tali/Femshep Normandy convos. Good luck finding one that isn't even there. XD

Modifié par N7Kopper, 19 juin 2012 - 02:46 .

[Terrorize69]

N7Kopper wrote...

Terrorize69 wrote...

N7Kopper wrote...

Terrorize69 wrote...

N7Kopper wrote...

Your fault for trying to forcibly change Tali's sexuality. :happy:

I don't need to change it it's there for all to see, Tali is bi/gay, or she is in a femshep play through.

In a maleshep play through there's no evidence to say shes gay/bi. It's the complete opposit in a femshep game.

Not romancable. Therefore not.
Proof of the pudding? In the eating.

Cause femshep says no

Doesn't stop Tali using her nerve stim program while fantasising about her although

Uh, no. Tali pretty explicitly shuts up, not wanting Shepard to think what she's probably thinking. Link me to a video proving otherwise.

And I'm having a hard time finding any Tali/Femshep Normandy convos. Good luck finding one that isn't even there. XD

Now now, I'm not going to help you find porn

ME2, Tali starts the romance convo with Femshep, it's femshep that doesn't pick up on Talis hint/suggestion, and pushes it aside, the same way maleshep does if you reject Tali.

Tali being who she is, isn't going to shout out and make it clear she wants either Shepard, its up to Shepard to open up to her. Femshep doesn't, Maleshep did.

Femshep is the only person in ME2, who doesn't know how Tali feels about her lol, even reading her files she doesn't catch on.

[Edolix]

^^ Not this argument again.

Modifié par Edolix, 19 juin 2012 - 03:16 .

[Terrorize69]

Edolix wrote...

^^ Not this argument again.

Not an argument

Maleshep = Straight Tali

Femshep = Tali Bi/Gay for FemShep

[JustOneGuy]

Terrorize69 wrote...

Edolix wrote...

^^ Not this argument again.

Not an argument

Maleshep = Straight Tali

Femshep = Tali Bi/Gay for FemShep

I have to agree with Terrorize once... I strongly believe that gender does not matter for Tali, at least not in the case of Shepard... Tali deeply respects Shep and also wanted to link suits with a FemShep... we all know what this means! This does not necessarily mean that Tali is inherently BI, what I think most of you guys despise in that Theory. It just means, that Shep is a Ladykiller  !

[iSpaz]

You know when I got to to the romance parts of Tali's convos on femshep and picked the "are you blushing under the helmet" line. Tali said that was the last time she will ever compliment her bosh'tet captain...I got a really good laugh from that,especially with the tone Tali uses to say it. /random

I originally thought that dialogue was in response to some quarian captain not femshep haha.

[Edolix]

iSpaz wrote...

You know when I got to to the romance parts of Tali's convos on femshep and picked the "are you blushing under the helmet" line. Tali said that was the last time she will ever compliment her bosh'tet captain...I got a really good laugh from that,especially with the tone Tali uses to say it. /random

I originally thought that dialogue was in response to some quarian captain not femshep haha.

Is there a youtube video of this?

I totally want to see it.

Modifié par Edolix, 19 juin 2012 - 03:37 .

[Terrorize69]

Edolix wrote...

iSpaz wrote...

You know when I got to to the romance parts of Tali's convos on femshep and picked the "are you blushing under the helmet" line. Tali said that was the last time she will ever compliment her bosh'tet captain...I got a really good laugh from that,especially with the tone Tali uses to say it. /random

I originally thought that dialogue was in response to some quarian captain not femshep haha.

Is there a youtube video of this?

I totally want to see it.

www.youtube.com/watch

Also, you may notice something Tali says at the end, or rather, what she doesn't say.

[Lone Triarii]

N7Kopper wrote...

Also, this. Unrelated, but awesome.

Excellent, I’ve been waiting for this.

And image.



Tali, stop bringing a shotgun to a katana fight. You're going to ge-*ker-SHINK* ... never mind. Let's get some medi-gel over here!

As for this, shotgun beats sword. Every time.

[Lone Triarii]

Terrorize69 wrote...

Edolix wrote...

iSpaz wrote...

You know when I got to to the romance parts of Tali's convos on femshep and picked the "are you blushing under the helmet" line. Tali said that was the last time she will ever compliment her bosh'tet captain...I got a really good laugh from that,especially with the tone Tali uses to say it. /random

I originally thought that dialogue was in response to some quarian captain not femshep haha.

Is there a youtube video of this?

I totally want to see it.

www.youtube.com/watch

Also, you may notice something Tali says at the end, or rather, what she doesn't say.

You can also check out this awesome soundboard for Tali quotes:
http://maqeurious.de...s/28342165&qo=0

[Edolix]

Terrorize69 wrote...

www.youtube.com/watch

Also, you may notice something Tali says at the end, or rather, what she doesn't say.

Hah! That's golden, thanks for the link. First time i've even seen a FemShep/Tali convo, in fact.

I'm really not seeing the whole "Tali is bisexual" in any of that though.

EDIT: Oh, TOTP....

Modifié par Edolix, 19 juin 2012 - 03:48 .

[Terrorize69]

Edolix wrote...

Terrorize69 wrote...

www.youtube.com/watch

Also, you may notice something Tali says at the end, or rather, what she doesn't say.

Hah! That's golden, thanks for the link. First time i've even seen a FemShep/Tali convo, in fact.

I'm really not seeing the whole "Tali is bisexual" in any of that though.

EDIT: Oh, TOTP....

Take the paragon option for example..

"I'd link suits with you, if you was a Quarian and we wasn't on a suicide mission"

If she wasn't bi, or interested in doing the most intimate Quarian thing with Shepard.. wouldnt she of said..

"I'd link suits with you, if you was a Male Quarian and we wasn't on a suicide mission"

She would of mentioned Shepards Gender if it was an issue, but she doesn't. She admits to wanting to do the most intimate thing quarians can do with her.

[iSpaz]

Wait but I thought Tali's mother linked suits with Raan does that mean...Hmm nevermind...

Honestly I don't see it either but whatever gets your mass effect fields going. ;p

[Edolix]

Terrorize69 wrote...

Take the paragon option for example..

"I'd link suits with you, if you was a Quarian and we wasn't on a suicide mission"

If she wasn't bi, or interested in doing the most intimate Quarian thing with Shepard.. wouldnt she of said..

"I'd link suits with you, if you was a Male Quarian and we wasn't on a suicide mission"

She would of mentioned Shepards Gender if it was an issue, but she doesn't. She admits to wanting to do the most intimate thing quarians can do with her.

Well, that's only if you're suggesting that linking suits automatically implys "zomg sexytime!" which it doesn't.

E.g. Raan linked suits with Tali's mother as a gesture of trust, not because she wanted to sleep with her lol

The context of "linking suits" is pretty open and has several meanings. It doesn't automatically imply sex, and there is nothing solid in what Tali sais to suggest that she wants to sleep with FemShep.

Though it is true that  "linking suits" is a broad term and is indeed open to interpretation (and if you wish to interpret it as "Tali wants to get into FemSheps underwear" then go ahead) but to state that Tali is bisexual as if it's a fact is simply headcanon, nothing more.

[Terrorize69]

iSpaz wrote...

Wait but I thought Tali's mother linked suits with Raan does that mean...Hmm nevermind...

Honestly I don't see it either but whatever gets your mass effect fields going. ;p

It's not a question that people "don't see it", more they "don't want to see it".

The evidence in a femshep game is, overwhelming. If you're open minded that is. If you don't want to believe your fave LI could be interested in a gender other then yours, making it harder for you to.. "relate" to/with her. Then no amount of evidence will chance peoples minds lol.

But it's there and clear for all to see who are willing to see it.

[Terrorize69]

Edolix wrote...

Terrorize69 wrote...

Take the paragon option for example..

"I'd link suits with you, if you was a Quarian and we wasn't on a suicide mission"

If she wasn't bi, or interested in doing the most intimate Quarian thing with Shepard.. wouldnt she of said..

"I'd link suits with you, if you was a Male Quarian and we wasn't on a suicide mission"

She would of mentioned Shepards Gender if it was an issue, but she doesn't. She admits to wanting to do the most intimate thing quarians can do with her.

Well, that's only if you're suggesting that linking suits automatically implys "zomg sexytime!" which it doesn't.

E.g. Raan linked suits with Tali's mother as a gesture of trust, not because she wanted to sleep with her lol

The context of "linking suits" is pretty open and has several meanings. It doesn't automatically imply sex, and there is nothing solid in what Tali sais to suggest that she wants to sleep with FemShep.

Though it is true that  "linking suits" is a broad term and is indeed open to interpretation (and if you wish to interpret it as "Tali wants to get into FemSheps underwear" then go ahead) but to state that Tali is bisexual as if it's a fact is simply headcanon, nothing more.

See above post. Little point me arguing with people who are close minded and refuse to see.

You know, apart from researching Human "sex" in a femshep play through, activing a stim program while doing so, upgrading it, admitting to wanting to do the most intimate thing after having done her research and used that program. *cough*

Like I said, pointless me trying to convince those that don't want to see it. I understand it may ruin peoples fantasies, somehow... "ZOMG Tali is Bi in another universe, I can't touch her now! Bleach for my eyes!"

[iSpaz]

Terrorize69 wrote...

iSpaz wrote...

Wait but I thought Tali's mother linked suits with Raan does that mean...Hmm nevermind...

Honestly I don't see it either but whatever gets your mass effect fields going. ;p

It's not a question that people "don't see it", more they "don't want to see it".

The evidence in a femshep game is, overwhelming. If you're open minded that is. If you don't want to believe your fave LI could be interested in a gender other then yours, making it harder for you to.. "relate" to/with her. Then no amount of evidence will chance peoples minds lol.

But it's there and clear for all to see who are willing to see it.

I understand that. I have no problems with the people who want to believe Tali is bi/gay btw If that is what you thought lol. I will admit some people get a little too worked up when it's brought up. But yeah it shouldn't really matter cuz we all are allowed to have our own little headcanons amirite? ;p

[Edolix]

Terrorize69 wrote...


See above post. Little point me arguing with people who are close minded and refuse to see.

You know, apart from researching Human "sex" in a femshep play through, activing a stim program while doing so, upgrading it, admitting to wanting to do the most intimate thing after having done her research and used that program. *cough*

Like I said, pointless me trying to convince those that don't want to see it. I understand it may ruin peoples fantasies, somehow... "ZOMG Tali is Bi in another universe, I can't touch her now! Bleach for my eyes!"

I'm pretty sure Bioware acknowledged that the nerve-stim pro and "human courtship and mating" showing up for Tali in LotSB was bugged. It was only supposed to show up if you romanced her, but for some reason it showed up for everyone.

And now you're making me come across as some kind of homophobe. I'm not, and if Bioware had established Tali as being bisexual right from the off i'd have no problems with it. However, the truth is that she isn't.

What you're doing is twisting every word she utters to FemShep as having sexual connotations, but that's just your own interpretation. Hell, if you try hard enough you could interpret any of the characters to having sexual feelings towards Shepard. That doesn't make any of it true.

Modifié par Edolix, 19 juin 2012 - 04:27 .

[Tom80]

N7Kopper wrote...

Also, this. Unrelated, but awesome.

Quite the work.

[Apathy1989]

The whole 'linking suits = sex' is not a clear cut argument.

Tali's mother and auntie Raan shared suits so Raan could watch Tali be born. So either you are saying Tali's mother is Bi aswell, or accept that Tali could simply mean she trusts Shepard.

I don't think we will ever know unless a writer comes in and says though.

[zizao]

Tom80 wrote...

N7Kopper wrote...

Also, this. Unrelated, but awesome.

Quite the work.

As hard as I tried I couldn't do the bad ones, couldn't stand to hear Tali upset. 

[Terrorize69]

Like I said, I'm not going to argue, there's enough evidences to do the arguing/talking for me. Its just up to people to either accept or not.

As I said earlier...

Maleshep = Straight Tali
Femshep = Tali is bi/gay for femshep. (possibly/likely only for femshep)

So for all your malesheps, you have nothing to worry about, femshep don't exist in your "universe".

Although I'm not sure why you would be worried about Tali being bi in a alt universe.. it's not like "bi/gay" is a disease and will infect yours..

[Edolix]

Terrorize69 wrote...

Like I said, I'm not going to argue, there's enough evidences to do the arguing/talking for me. Its just up to people to either accept or not.

As I said earlier...

Maleshep = Straight Tali
Femshep = Tali is bi/gay for femshep. (possibly/likely only for femshep)

So for all your malesheps, you have nothing to worry about, femshep don't exist in your "universe".

Although I'm not sure why you would be worried about Tali being bi in a alt universe.. it's not like "bi/gay" is a disease and will infect yours..

Now i'm getting the impression that you've just refused to read any of my posts. Sigh...

Terror, I honestly have no problems with you wanting a bisexual Tali. I really don't. What gripes me is that you have to wave the "Tali IS bisexual" banner around as if it is an actual fact. It isn't.

"I'd like Tali to be bisexual" or "In my opinion, Tali should have been bisexual" is completely reasonable. But "TALI IS BISEXUAL, I'M RIGHT AND YOU'RE WRONG WHY DON'T YOU SEE" is obnoxious, irritating and in all honesty is the only reason i've been provoked into arguing with you.

Modifié par Edolix, 19 juin 2012 - 06:25 .

[Terrorize69]

You too eh, I got that impression of you a few pages back, blatantly ignoring all evidence and blindly dismissing other peoples views and opinions. Like being shown a picture of an apple and still saying it's an orange.

If thats what you think I'm saying you obviously havn't read my posts.

So let me just tell you something about canon/fact.

Fact, Shepards gender is not canon. So Maleshepard and Tali is at most only 50/50 chance of being canon.

Whats canon in my game, isn't canon in yours and vise versa.

So you out rightly dismissing my claim and the claim of others, aswell as evidence. Base sorely apon your Shepard's universe is "obnoxious and irritating"