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@Bfler: Flaw? How so?

@Edolix: lol I can also find an arguement to troll you all with if you like? That will get the thread moving lol.

But for now, a topic.

Not counting Shepard (Male or Fem), who do you feel Tali is closest to? Or who is her "best friend"? And why.

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Terrorize69 wrote...

@Bfler: Flaw? How so?

@Edolix: lol I can also find an arguement to troll you all with if you like? That will get the thread moving lol.

But for now, a topic.

Not counting Shepard (Male or Fem), who do you feel Tali is closest to? Or who is her "best friend"? And why.


Honestly, I didn't really see her interact with anyone else other then Garrus, so I'd guess he'd be her best friend, but only her FRIEND right, right? D:

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Terrorize69 wrote...

@Bfler: Flaw? How so?

@Edolix: lol I can also find an arguement to troll you all with if you like? That will get the thread moving lol.

But for now, a topic.

Not counting Shepard (Male or Fem), who do you feel Tali is closest to? Or who is her "best friend"? And why.


In my headcannon Tali and  Kasumi spendt quite some time together... you know talking about girly things and Tali's relationship with Shepard. She seems to be one of the few really decent (besides of her cleptomancy of course!) persons on the Normandy! Other friends could also be Garrus, Kenneth and Gabriella of course...

Kasumi also inhabbits one of the nicest spots on the Normandy, who would not love it to go there? Image IPB

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JustOneGuy wrote...

Terrorize69 wrote...

@Bfler: Flaw? How so?

@Edolix: lol I can also find an arguement to troll you all with if you like? That will get the thread moving lol.

But for now, a topic.

Not counting Shepard (Male or Fem), who do you feel Tali is closest to? Or who is her "best friend"? And why.


In my headcannon Tali and  Kasumi spendt quite some time together... you know talking about girly things and Tali's relationship with Shepard. She seems to be one of the few really decent (besides of her cleptomancy of course!) persons on the Normandy! Other friends could also be Garrus, Kenneth and Gabriella of course...

Kasumi also inhabbits one of the nicest spots on the Normandy, who would not love it to go there? Image IPB

Her kleptomania and her creepy perverted spying on Jacob. :whistle:

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Well from the impression I get, for a crew that never moves lol, they seem to know alot about each other and talk to each other. XD They always bring up convos about each other, so I've started to believe that the second Shepard steps off the ship, they stop working and have a gossip fest lol. Either that or they use EDI to pass on messages to other areas of the ship.

"Oh sh*t Shepards coming, quick look busy" lol

Apart from... the easter egg in ME3, Tali always gave me the impresion she thought of Garrus as a bigger brother, a annoying bigger brother. And seeing as they as both dextro they would of shared food/drink etc.

But from a friends point of view, I agree that there is a good chance Kasumi and Tali spent time together chatting and hanging out. I mean IMO Kasumi us a human Tali, Tali could have the girly chats with Kasumi that she'd be way to embarssed to have with others. Tali is "seemily" shy, but Kasumi seems to be the type that could make shy people feel very much at ease.

Modifié par Terrorize69, 20 juin 2012 - 09:37 .


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JustOneGuy wrote...
In my headcannon Tali and  Kasumi spendt quite some time together... you know talking about girly things and Tali's relationship with Shepard. She seems to be one of the few really decent (besides of her cleptomancy of course!) persons on the Normandy! Other friends could also be Garrus, Kenneth and Gabriella of course...

Kasumi also inhabbits one of the nicest spots on the Normandy, who would not love it to go there? Image IPB


Pretty much this. I also would like to think that Kasumi and Tali were the bestest of friends. They just seemed like they would enjoy each others company talking about anything and everything ha. They were also one of my favorites to bring together on missions. How I wished Kasumi was a squadmate and all the awesome banter between the two that could've been had!  /sadface

Though from what we have seen from the games Garrus seems to be one of her best friends...Liara and her seem like really good friends as well. And i'm sure if Ash ever came out of her room or learned how to work the intercom they would've had some sisterly bond. ;p 

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Bfler wrote...

What I noticed recently during MP is that the Geth chars have their third claw at the inner surface of the feet.
If the Quarians designed the Geth according to their own race, why this flaw?

The Geth have always been like that as far as I remember. I wouldn’t say it’s a flaw just the design they went with for some reason. Or maybe the Geth changed it themselves because they thought it was better that way, who knows.

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Not counting Shepard (Male or Fem), who do you feel Tali is closest to? Or who is her "best friend"? And why.


Tali seems to get along well with Adams, she spends most of her time in engineering so she probably interacts most with the people down there. Outside of them I’m not too sure, I also thought she’d spend time with Kasumi, as she appears friendly to people and is the only girl on the SR-2 (other than Kelly now that I think about it) that Tali would mind spending time with.

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iSpaz wrote...

JustOneGuy wrote...
In my headcannon Tali and  Kasumi spendt quite some time together... you know talking about girly things and Tali's relationship with Shepard. She seems to be one of the few really decent (besides of her cleptomancy of course!) persons on the Normandy! Other friends could also be Garrus, Kenneth and Gabriella of course...

Kasumi also inhabbits one of the nicest spots on the Normandy, who would not love it to go there? Image IPB


Pretty much this. I also would like to think that Kasumi and Tali were the bestest of friends. They just seemed like they would enjoy each others company talking about anything and everything ha. They were also one of my favorites to bring together on missions. How I wished Kasumi was a squadmate and all the awesome banter between the two that could've been had!  /sadface

Though from what we have seen from the games Garrus seems to be one of her best friends...Liara and her seem like really good friends as well. And i'm sure if Ash ever came out of her room or learned how to work the intercom they would've had some sisterly bond. ;p 

It's just conservation of detail. If they recorded all that dialog, they wouldn't have disc room for any actual game. So they just tell the player the important bits and then nudge them "Psst, this is an RPG, do some roleplaying for these guys or something"

Oh, and Fleet and Flotilla. That is all. Garrus and Tali are very close friends, but it's not like the potential relationship upgrade wasn't foreshadowed at all. Pfft, it was more foreshadowed than TaliShep. (Because Tali and Garrus were made hetero xeno romances due to fan demand, not quite a retcon, but a reimagining - although I can't think of a reason why male Shepard shouldn't be able to at least try and hit on Garrus)

But hey. We got what we got, and with the exception of the on-disc endings, it's generally an A grade package. Nothing's perfect.

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Would of been Kellys job to talk to everyone, so obviously people do talk when Shepards not around :) Kelly does seem to get on with everyone, or so she'd like to think. I think some may be put off by her "Sudden" advances and sexual comments, even Kasumi thought Kelly came onto her lol. Joker didn't seem to mind but I think EDI disapproved lol.

We know Tali talks to Mordin about "Human Intercourse", but I think that would of made her nervous lol, have you had the sex talks with Mordin about any LI? He's erm... blunt at times lol "Miranda could have listening decives anywhere"...

After Tali talked to him, I'd believe she would of needed, abit of reasurance or a girly/human view. Kasumi would of been the perfect person to give that talk, not because shes a **** or highly exp'd, but because shes easy to talk to. It could of been Kasumi who suggested music to help the mood, only for Tali to realise she didn't know what music she liked.

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Well, things turn out the same (more or less) no matter who you don't recruit out of the optional party members. At least as far as ME2 is concerned, anyhow.

And Kelly comes onto anyone. Part of who she is. She's also damn good at interpreting the body language of all known organic life.

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*Grunt punching Kelly in the guts*

Kelly: "my professional opinion, U MAD?"

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Shepard: Hey, Grunt. Did I tell you about this little thing? That there's no friendly fire in this game?
Grunt: Huh? Wuzzat? Game?
Kelly: He doesn't know...? That'd explain why he keeps saying you're hitting him when sniper bullets whizz by him.
Grunt: *huff* for the record... Yes. I mad.
Shepard: How do you think I felt on Tuchanka after we killed that Maw? ...Flattered, actually, to be honest. But spoken for.

Image IPB

Drawn by a genuine lesbo Talimancer.
Honestly? I think it's a pity that the games don't have better support for modded romances. Kaidan recognising a male ME1 romance (and playing with the forth wall in the process) would have been gold too.

Modifié par N7Kopper, 20 juin 2012 - 10:14 .


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Tom80 wrote...

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....It's why we see no quarian ships in the ending scene.....


That was one of the bigger disappointments of the last act of time game.

The only time you see Quarian ships is when they pass Jupiter !
The rest of the time you see Alliance and Turian ships with a Asari ship here and then.

The Geth are NEVER seen !
Or better only when the Quarians are dead.....


It's one of those cases of Bioware getting really lazy/rushed as they approached the end part of the game. So they concentrated on things with higher probabilities. You have no choice but to have Alliance, Turian and Asari support, so they focused the cut scenes on them and then they didn't have to worry about that pesky thing of having the player influence anything that happens other then the military strength score. The whole of the Earth section is like that. They just glued on a few little clips at the very start to say "yeah Quarians are here too" and that was it. It's like the way only ME1 LI's get a flashback at the very end and stand around at the hill run as long as you like but you'll never see a Krogan charge down that hill. Mind you that section also has 2D smoke and vehicles you can run through.

They really botched the ending, even before you take into account the reveal of how nonsensical and pointless the whole game universe apparently is.

On a side note. Love the Darth Tali Vs Obi-Geth pic. Lol.

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Fenrisfil wrote...

Tom80 wrote...

Nozzivix wrote...

....It's why we see no quarian ships in the ending scene.....


That was one of the bigger disappointments of the last act of time game.

The only time you see Quarian ships is when they pass Jupiter !
The rest of the time you see Alliance and Turian ships with a Asari ship here and then.

The Geth are NEVER seen !
Or better only when the Quarians are dead.....


It's one of those cases of Bioware getting really lazy/rushed as they approached the end part of the game. So they concentrated on things with higher probabilities. You have no choice but to have Alliance, Turian and Asari support, so they focused the cut scenes on them and then they didn't have to worry about that pesky thing of having the player influence anything that happens other then the military strength score. The whole of the Earth section is like that. They just glued on a few little clips at the very start to say "yeah Quarians are here too" and that was it. It's like the way only ME1 LI's get a flashback at the very end and stand around at the hill run as long as you like but you'll never see a Krogan charge down that hill. Mind you that section also has 2D smoke and vehicles you can run through.

They really botched the ending, even before you take into account the reveal of how nonsensical and pointless the whole game universe apparently is.

On a side note. Love the Darth Tali Vs Obi-Geth pic. Lol.

Darth Tali and Obi-Legion, actually.

Also, Caseylist and Illusive Mac. That is all.

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So expanding on the topic :P

What is Talis views/opinons on all the crew/party members, how do you think they each get on behind the scenes.

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Well, she thinks Diana Allers is the most underrated character in the game person on the Normandy, I know that much. :P
Contrasting Liara, who finds Diana annoying.

Obviously she likes Garrus. We all know that. He's her second-favourite (or possibly top favourite) person on the Normandy!

James? They probably don't talk much. Static electricity would muss up his exercise routines.

Kaidan likes her, she likes him. They geek out over omni-tools. Kaidan's choice is honestly better, though. At least seeing as my Shepard is far better at any AI hacking attempts either of them could ever make - plus Tali could do with more defence to match that shotgun of hers.

Liara is the old friend of the whole ME1 crew, really.

Tali warms to EDI considerably once the whole anti-synthetic racism thing is dealt with properly. Contrast Karin, who never does. And never has a reason for the racism in the first place unlike Tali :unsure:

Joker always liked Tali, so there's not much to talk about there.

Shepard? Either a galactic saviour person of epic proportions she has the honour of being close friends with, or Mr. Dashing Commander Who Loves Me So And Gave Me My Homeworld For Our Anniversary And Inspired Me To Come Up With Hideously Long Pet Names. :wub:
(Or "that monster who killed my people (and potentially claimed he loved me)") :(

-Just off the top of my head-

Modifié par N7Kopper, 20 juin 2012 - 10:56 .


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Ash says that Tali is like a little sis, but I don't see much sisterly love going on in ME3. Is this just lack of Ash content?

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Apathy1989 wrote...

Ash says that Tali is like a little sis, but I don't see much sisterly love going on in ME3. Is this just lack of Ash content?

Or a throwaway line to show that Ashley isn't racist. (I only ever saw her having problems with turians and krogan, honestly)

It really does seem that way, especially considering she can change her tune later on. :huh:

Wouldn't know, though. Always have Kaidan. And set variable 10314 to 8 to fix the Engineering glitch caused by the game doing this

[conditional_863]
(((plot.ints[10314] + plot.ints[10330]) >= 8) || (plot.bools[19724] == true))

to fix an unrelated bug with Ash in the hospital.

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Terrorize69 wrote...

But for now, a topic.

Not counting Shepard (Male or Fem), who do you feel Tali is closest to? Or who is her "best friend"? And why.


Seriously ?
Well, "best friend" does not mean love, so.......it's either Garrus (Shep/Tali romance) or Reegar (because she worries about him that much in ME 2).

And from hearing (other talking about her) Kasumi is a option. HOOD-SIS-POWER !!!!

Modifié par Tom80, 20 juin 2012 - 12:34 .


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I think most chars view Tali as a little sister, for one reason or another. Most feel she needs protecting or shes vunerable, and take on the role of Older Brother/Sister, they may not agree or get on, but she/he has Tali's back. At least thats how I view most.

Garrus: Although I do agree Garrus and Tali are close friends, I feel that maybe being the only dextros onboard they may be drawn to each other at times to stop feeling left out. To me, Garrus and Tali are arguing siblings, competing for Shepards attention lol, like..

Garrus: "**** please, I'm Shepards best friend."
Tali: "Ha Ha, that is so funny Garrus, it's clear Shepard favours me more"
Garrus: "Oh yeah? Is that why me and Shepard have done "blah blah""
Tali: "Pfft thats nothing, I remember when me and Shepard did "this and that""
Garrus: "Rookie stuff, I bring class to the party"
Tali: "class, you? ha! I Always have Shepards back!"
Garrus: "You use a shotgun, your always ahead of Shepard, I have a rifle, I have Shepards back."
Tali: "That's right, I have a shotgun.. I also have Shepards.."front" hehe"
Garrus: "...That's nasty"

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Honestly yes once you get Ash back it's like she isn't even there.

Though Ash was pretty friendly to Tali before the geth dreadnought mission. Assuming you didn't dump her for Tali of course ;p. She also has one convo via intercom with Tali after the bomb mission (check my sig if you wanna hear it). The banter between them during missions does seem somewhat sister like l guess I dunno lol.

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Tom80 wrote...

Terrorize69 wrote...

But for now, a topic.

Not counting Shepard (Male or Fem), who do you feel Tali is closest to? Or who is her "best friend"? And why.


Seriously ?
Well, "best friend" does not mean love, so.......it's either Garrus (Shep/Tali romance) or Reegar (because she worries about him that much in ME 2).

And from hearing (other talking about her) Kasumi is a option. HOOD-SIS-POWER !!!!

Yeah seriously lol...

You seriously going to complain about a topic being brought up after complaining about arguing and the topic moving slowly? o__o What is this I dont even...

Who said Best friend means love? Because I discounted Shepard? Many peoples best friend is their partner. And the topic would thus be short and pointless, cause we all know Shepard would win :P

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Terrorize69 wrote...

So expanding on the topic :P

What is Talis views/opinons on all the crew/party members, how do you think they each get on behind the scenes.


Towards:
Liara: "Stay away from him !!!!!"

Garrus: "We are good friends."

Ashley: "Watch your steps.......SPECTRE !!!!"

Javik: "......So.....a Prothean ?"

EDI: "...OOOOOKAAAAAY !?!?"

James: "Sparks ?..............Shepard, we need to talk !"

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As for Jack..

Jack: Apart from dialogue that any random 2 part members can engage in during some convos in missions. We see no interaction between them.. BUT, headcanon, I'd say Jack is another one who'd come to view Tali as a little sister, and would protect her the same way she looks out for her students. And while their personailtys and natures are too different, I wouldnt say they conflict. Tali could be intimidated by Jack, and quiet around her, but at the same time would believe Jack would never hurt her. Jack would tease Tali, heavily, mainly about Shepard. But I can imagine Jack saying to Shepard..

Jack: "Oh and Shepard, hurt Tali and i'll break your legs."

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Terrorize69 wrote...

Tom80 wrote...

Terrorize69 wrote...

But for now, a topic.

Not counting Shepard (Male or Fem), who do you feel Tali is closest to? Or who is her "best friend"? And why.


Seriously ?
Well, "best friend" does not mean love, so.......it's either Garrus (Shep/Tali romance) or Reegar (because she worries about him that much in ME 2).

And from hearing (other talking about her) Kasumi is a option. HOOD-SIS-POWER !!!!

Yeah seriously lol...

You seriously going to complain about a topic being brought up after complaining about arguing and the topic moving slowly? o__o What is this I dont even...

Who said Best friend means love? Because I discounted Shepard? Many peoples best friend is their partner. And the topic would thus be short and pointless, cause we all know Shepard would win :P


1. Seriously was not the right word, I see that now !

2. I never said that it means love !



See you all later.