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[InLoveWithTaliZorah]

forthary wrote...

InLoveWithTaliZorah wrote...

personal snip*

"I want more time" still sends shivers down my spine.  What Tali says when Shepard saves her on the normandy can be tear-jerking I guess.  The control and destroy post-ending scenes were definately tear jerking, especially control, but not so much for synthesis, as I believe Shepard will always be within Tali.  "Come back for me." was what really got me going.  And Tali was the motivation all along for me coming back alive.  She'd be very lonely without Shepard.  I couldn't let that happen.  Hell, if everyone disintegrated on earth for my choice, I would still do it.

Same. The only reason I first chose COntrol was because I knew my EMS wouldn't be high enough for Shep to live anyway so I chose the option that wouldn't kill anyone. In the Control ending, Shep is always with Tali. He, or at least his thoughts, are always there. I loved that. Shep quasi lives in the Control ending so I liked that one. And Shep's narration was much better than the other ones. I just wish that Shepard had retained his personality when he became the CAtalyst so that he could meaningfully interact with Tali and continue being with her on a more personal level. He could build himslef a body and such and live with Tali.
But Shep actually living in the High EMS Destroy ending is still the best. Because then, Shep being with Tali is more real. It has more depth. Plus then Shep could finally get drunk with Tali. My Shep on his own won't get drunk but if its with Tali... pass the emergency induction port please!

[WizenSlinky0]

forthary wrote...
I couldn't let that happen.  Hell, if everyone disintegrated on earth for my choice, I would still do it.

I'd chuck pretty much any race or any number of people under the bus for it.

[FsDxRAGE_v2]

Hey, I finished the endings five hours ago.
I am much happier. It is still stupid, but better.

[Cheese of Borg]

zapphoman24 wrote...

Bfler wrote...

Or he could be overwhelmed, corrupted by the unlimited power and switch to some kind of cruel emperor with the Reapers as his "fist", like the current Renegate ending implies.

That's why I never choose the control ending. With power comes temptation and with temptation, comes corruption.

I fully agree, i chose to let the galexy forge its own future. I chose destroy!

30sec explanation why: http://t.co/tuHoHWUG


I...love....Tali...

[iSpaz]

AVPen wrote...

forthary wrote...

*sad pic snip*

Is it just me or while watching that scene, did it appear to anyone else that the modelers/animators had made it look like that Tali was actually crying under her visor?

Yeah I actually noticed that as well seems to be more shiny/wet under her eyes. Either way such a moving scene I might be bias (yup!) but I liked hers the best. Everyone else was like oh I love you again... Which isn't entirely bad I guess. Even though most of them already said that during the first goodbye scene and their romance scene...heh.

Her friendship version is not as good at least with maleshep dunno if it's any different with femshep. I'll have to check but for the most part she still says the don't leave me behind. And then just "*pause* I...."

As far as the endings go I just had to pick destroy. Ok yeah we didn't get our reunion or whatever but the part with Tali and the crew near the memorial was just great. I do wish the geth weren't killed simply cuz I feel Legions sacrifice is now pointless. Well actually it seemed kinda pointless in the first place lol. But Shepard gets to come back to Tali! Happy ending...

[ryoojin]

They were kinda sneaky and added a fourth "smartass" ending. Cap the little kid in the head (always my first impulse after the first ending). Not a very uplifting version but strangely more cathartic for me. They did do better this time. Id still boot Hudson and Walters out an airlock, but this time Id give them suits with an hour of air.

[Jiromato]

Sorry new to posting on a forum but just had to say something. Playing/Watching the evac scene with Tali pretty much guarantees a destroy ending for me every single time. Watching Tali beg to remain by my side just made me think about everything about her. As much as i want shepard to say i love you to to tali I am somewhat grateful he didn't say it at that moment cause i saw the other evac scenes for other love interest and all those, every single one sounded very much like a good bye on both ends. And for them i can see the control or syn working perfectly i mean they said their good byes and you watch them from a far kind of deal. Tali is the only one to say no come back to me and that right there is just so powerful, enough to get a single tear from me (for me that's a lot T__T). She doesn't want you to protect her at a distance like her father in the syn and control and give her a home...no no no she wants "you" and that where you are is where her home is just speaks volumes to me.

Now i do feel for edi but she should still be in that ship and i don't know maybe that body disintegrated or something i don't know but the normandy didn't disintegrate after being hit so at least to me we just need to build her a new body. Any way sorry for my rambling or if this isn't properly formatted i just needed to get it out of my systems and think some of my friends are all talked out. Oh and referring as shepard as you but what can i say i am attached to my Shepard thought it fit.

[Neverwinter_Knight77]

ryoojin wrote...
They did do better this time. Id still boot Hudson and Walters out an airlock, but this time Id give them suits with an hour of air.

That's actually a pretty good description of how I feel.  Personally, I believe that they are intentionally trolling us with the refusal ending.  As if they're saying "SEE?!  I told you that wouldn't work, poopyhead!  Now pick one of OUR choices!"  I get the feeling somebody at Bioware was very bitter about having to do Extended Cut.

[TheWerdna]

Calinstel wrote...

FsDxRAGE_v2 wrote...

Hey, I finished the endings five hours ago.
I am much happier. It is still stupid, but better.

Agreed.  Stupid but, at least there is hope as well.

Agreed, if anything the EC had one thing that was not in the origonal endings... hope.

Its that hope, the hope present in the destroy ending that Shepard and Tali will reunite that is the most segnifigant to me.

[Tom80]

Nozzivix wrote...

http://www.fanfictio..._Final_Crucible
^I wrote this today, will try and get a third chapter with a reunion up tomorrow the maybe do bonus control/synthesis endings. (Tali will be sad because shep is dead, fair warning)

Looks good.

[zizao]

Well, I just finished the EC and even though I really like the new scenes that they added they still fusked up.

I don't know why they didn't just make the refusal ending the ending everyone wanted. ie. kill the reapers off and keep everyone alive.

Would have fixed everything.

[N7Kopper]

zizao wrote...

Well, I just finished the EC and even though I really like the new scenes that they added they still fusked up.

I don't know why they didn't just make the refusal ending the ending everyone wanted. ie. kill the reapers off and keep everyone alive.

Would have fixed everything.

It would have ruined everything.
If you can kill the Reapers in a slug match, why build the Crucible? While more content hasn't been discounted, it would make no sense to win "conventionally", because then the Reapers would be laughable. There is new content that was leaked in the EC's files, however. Involving rogue Reapers. The Leviathan of Dis, anyone? Perhaps new content will enable you to actually win this more conventionally some day. Or at least refine the Crucible to get a true Golden Ending.

[zizao]

N7Kopper wrote...

zizao wrote...

Well, I just finished the EC and even though I really like the new scenes that they added they still fusked up.

I don't know why they didn't just make the refusal ending the ending everyone wanted. ie. kill the reapers off and keep everyone alive.

Would have fixed everything.

It would have ruined everything.
If you can kill the Reapers in a slug match, why build the Crucible? While more content hasn't been discounted, it would make no sense to win "conventionally", because then the Reapers would be laughable. There is new content that was leaked in the EC's files, however. Involving rogue Reapers. The Leviathan of Dis, anyone? Perhaps new content will enable you to actually win this more conventionally some day. Or at least refine the Crucible to get a true Golden Ending.

The refusal doesn't have to be a slug match. All that shepard has to do is release the energey of the cruciable upon the reapers.
Like so---v

Modifié par zizao, 28 juin 2012 - 07:19 .

[N7Kopper]

If that were possible, it would have been what Destroy would do.
The Crucible is little more than a power source.

[Neverwinter_Knight77]

zizao wrote...

Well, I just finished the EC and even though I really like the new scenes that they added they still fusked up.

I don't know why they didn't just make the refusal ending the ending everyone wanted. ie. kill the reapers off and keep everyone alive.

Would have fixed everything.

I agree completely.  That's all I wanted from the beginning.  An ending where you can refuse the starchild's sick and evil choices, and destroy the Reapers with the fleets, technology and armies that you've spent THREE GAMES gathering.  Instead of having them all go to waste, like they do now.  The refusal ending should be the only ending where EMS actually matters.  Instead, in quite the irony, it's the only ending where it doesn't matter.  WTF?

[N7Kopper]

*headdesk*
Because the Reapers are too powerful for Team Milky Way!
Plus, those choices aren't the deliberate engineering of the Catalyst, they're the possibilities. The Catalyst has no say. (Not to mention it's pretty much stated that the Catalyst is merely a faulty machine with guns far too big at it's disposal)

And the only reason the fleets and armies go to waste is because BioWare acquiesced to the MP haters. Gathering up >7500 in forces doesn't mean as much when I didn't even need 4000.

[zizao]

 

N7Kopper wrote...

*headdesk*
Because the Reapers are too powerful for Team Milky Way!
Plus, those choices aren't the deliberate engineering of the Catalyst, they're the possibilities. The Catalyst has no say. (Not to mention it's pretty much stated that the Catalyst is merely a faulty machine with guns far too big at it's disposal)

And the only reason the fleets and armies go to waste is because BioWare acquiesced to the MP haters. Gathering up >7500 in forces doesn't mean as much when I didn't even need 4000.

 

Then have the Catalist overload with energy from the Crucible. They could have done it. They made the game... They have the power...

To NeverWinter_Knight_77 Yeah, I have no clue why they did that, makes me agree with---v

"ryoojin wrote...
They did do better this time. Id still boot Hudson and Walters out an airlock, but this time Id give them suits with an hour of air

ME3 is still the biggest disappointment ever for me.
I'm just hoping that Hudson leaves and someone makes ME4 where we actually see Tali's face...

Modifié par zizao, 28 juin 2012 - 07:34 .

[Neverwinter_Knight77]

N7Kopper wrote...

*headdesk*
Because the Reapers are too powerful for Team Milky Way!
Plus, those choices aren't the deliberate engineering of the Catalyst, they're the possibilities. The Catalyst has no say. (Not to mention it's pretty much stated that the Catalyst is merely a faulty machine with guns far too big at it's disposal)

And the only reason the fleets and armies go to waste is because BioWare acquiesced to the MP haters. Gathering up >7500 in forces doesn't mean as much when I didn't even need 4000.

You're missing the point about MP.  One, nobody should have to pay for Xbox Live.  Two, the multiplayer servers will not last forever.  A game should be playable for as long as you want it to be.

Edit: Also, if the Reapers are too strong for us to take on conventionally, then why all the hints throughout the game?  "The galaxy has never been this united before", "We may just pull this off", "We're going to win", etc.  Not to mention, nobody knew about the Crucible until ME3.

Modifié par Neverwinter_Knight77, 28 juin 2012 - 07:43 .

[N7Kopper]

@zizao But instead, they took the logical solution of making the option to refuse to use the MacGuffin superweapon result in total defeat, regardless of any other variable. (so far)

But I get it. You want to take the bitter out of the sweet. I'm completely indifferent to the idea. If they do it, they do it. If they don't, they don't. And by the time this game has all of it's DLC released, I get a feeling that even the Reapers will be sympathetic characters. Or at least, some of them.

Neverwinter_Knight77 wrote...

N7Kopper wrote...

*headdesk*
Because the Reapers are too powerful for Team Milky Way!
Plus, those choices aren't the deliberate engineering of the Catalyst, they're the possibilities. The Catalyst has no say. (Not to mention it's pretty much stated that the Catalyst is merely a faulty machine with guns far too big at it's disposal)

And the only reason the fleets and armies go to waste is because BioWare acquiesced to the MP haters. Gathering up >7500 in forces doesn't mean as much when I didn't even need 4000.

You're missing the point about MP. One, nobody should have to pay for Xbox Live. Two, the multiplayer servers will not last forever. A game should be playable for as long as you want it to be.

Then patch the game and make it offline compatible! They're pandering to the haters, not taking account of people who can't play online.

So I think I hit the point dead-on in the head, actually.

Modifié par N7Kopper, 28 juin 2012 - 07:43 .

[Costin_Razvan]

Edit: Also, if the Reapers are too strong for us to take on conventionally, then why all the hints throughout the game? "The galaxy has never been this united before", "We may just pull this off", "We're going to win", etc. Not to mention, nobody knew about the Crucible until ME3.

Perhaps you were blind to what Shepard, Hackett, Victus and Garrus have to say about winning against the Reapers conventionally, it can't be done.

Besides all that talk, which I consider BS anyway, the Protheans were more powerful anyway and they lost anyway.

Modifié par Costin_Razvan, 28 juin 2012 - 07:48 .

[zizao]

Costin_Razvan wrote...

Edit: Also, if the Reapers are too strong for us to take on conventionally, then why all the hints throughout the game? "The galaxy has never been this united before", "We may just pull this off", "We're going to win", etc. Not to mention, nobody knew about the Crucible until ME3.

Perhaps you were blind to what Shepard, Hackett, Victus and Garrus have to say about winning against the Reapers conventionally, it can't be done.

Besides all that talk, which I consider BS anyway, the Protheans were more powerful anyway and they lost anyway.

But they didn't have Tali Pounce to come home to...

[Bfler]

If they would have implemented an option for everyone (pure happy end without speculations until total defeat) we wouldn't have all these discussions.

[N7Kopper]

Bfler wrote...

If they would have implemented an option for everyone (pure happy end without speculations until total defeat) we wouldn't have all these discussions.

But where's the fun in that?
Speculation is good, if it's Mother level, rather than LOST level.