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The track is just so great :(

Id really love to see a tribute on this one. Id do it myself but unfortunatly as my basic military training starts tomorrow I don't have the time.

Anyway, looking forward to whatever the outcome will be.

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Mike Canary wrote...

And while I'm at it (and I'm throwing this out to anyone) has anyone done any fan art of Shepard and Tali reuiniting? Maybe Shepard is taking down his name from the normandy's memorial or something? Preferably something with default Shepard?

What I'd like to do with it is maybe have that as a way of showing Shep and Tali reuiniting. In the EC, because you can't see Tali smile at the end, it kinda takes away some of the "Oh, she thinks Shepard's alive!" feeling. I thought maybe ending with some fan art might work better.

 
I'm trying to working on something like that using the in-game models, but it'll take a good while since it's been ages since I've worked in 3D programs (used to work in Lightwave years ago) and I'm just starting to learn Blender.

SPARTAN 089-Gary wrote...

 Hey guys just dropping my best friend's drawing of Tali. well uh asking for a hand from Shepard. He is a self proclaimed Liara to Tali convert haha

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Lend Me A Hand by NinjaisonFire

Umm, no offense to your friend... but does Tali really need a bra under her enviro-suit? :blink:

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Even as a Liaramancer I am curious... Did BioWare fix Tali's portrait in the EC? Or is it still lame? :/

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AVPen wrote...
Umm, no offense to your friend... but does Tali really need a bra under her enviro-suit? :blink:


I was wondering if anyone else was thinking that... still, a nice piece of work.

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HellbirdIV wrote...

Even as a Liaramancer I am curious... Did BioWare fix Tali's portrait in the EC? Or is it still lame? :/


My guess is still lame. However, that doesn't matter for me since I'm going to edit something else in with texmod when I get around to it.

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They did not change the photo at all. I had left myself in front of it to check before starting Cronos for the EC.

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amxstyle wrote...

They did not change the photo at all. I had left myself in front of it to check before starting Cronos for the EC.


Yes, we have still the old photo with the human hand.
I would have liked to see, that she takes off her mask during the evacuation scene and gives Shepard a final kiss.

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Tom80 wrote...

InLoveWithTaliZorah wrote...

Working on a happy ending with Tali after Shepard chooses the Control option. Should be pretty short when finished. Enjoy. Feedback please!

www.fanfiction.net/s/8273553/1/After_Control_Comes_Peace


Well in my POV, "Control ending" and "happy ending" can't be in the same sentence......Posted Image

Let's see......

    


Bittersweet, yeah but true happy they ride off into sunset...sadly no 
  

. “I wish we could've had more time, I wish I could have built that house with you. But I have to do this…it has to be me I can’t have someone else make the sacrifice. I guess I always knew it was going have be me in the end.  Whatever I become after this, machine, god, or monster… I want  you to know, I will always love you. I will always protect you no matter becomes of me in this life or the next.  So I may not be able to keep my promise but I can give you one last gift… I can give you hope and a future.”   

Nathaniel Shepard's last throughs  witnessed  as a recording by Tali...  

The feels man, the feels. :crying:

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Anyone else still really depressed at the lack of happiness for Tali, she loses her father and then her best friend and lover.

Fanfiction isn't cutting it for me.

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SpawnedX wrote...

Anyone else still really depressed at the lack of happiness for Tali, she loses her father and then her best friend and lover.

Fanfiction isn't cutting it for me.


High EMS destroy gives them the reunion chance, even if we do not get to see it ourselves in game.

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amxstyle wrote...

SpawnedX wrote...

Anyone else still really depressed at the lack of happiness for Tali, she loses her father and then her best friend and lover.

Fanfiction isn't cutting it for me.


High EMS destroy gives them the reunion chance, even if we do not get to see it ourselves in game.


That's the ending I got, including the breath scene.

However, I don't want implications. I want to see them actually get to build that home on Rannoch. I feel like they ruined the few things in things in the game that made up for all the sadness.

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SpawnedX wrote...

amxstyle wrote...

SpawnedX wrote...

Anyone else still really depressed at the lack of happiness for Tali, she loses her father and then her best friend and lover.

Fanfiction isn't cutting it for me.


High EMS destroy gives them the reunion chance, even if we do not get to see it ourselves in game.


That's the ending I got, including the breath scene.

However, I don't want implications. I want to see them actually get to build that home on Rannoch. I feel like they ruined the few things in things in the game that made up for all the sadness.


I agree with you on that. It would have been expectionally nice if the very last part of the ending showed a final cinematic for each LI but we are stuck with what we have.

Personally I never would have ended the trilogy with these 3 choices, the final mission should have simply been on the citadel, a very epic, tense and down to the wire finale with TIM as a mini boss - a final struggle versus Harbinger and the crucible simply firing and killing the reapers. No need for the geth and EDI to die.

I would have just designed it to end based on how you played it. On one end, the reapers can win, middle of the road bittersweet, Shepard and some crew die but can still achieve victory for the galaxy. Best ending, everyone walks out of it like a boss, but as a player you would need to work pretty hard for it. The game would have taken earlier choices and EMS into account.

And in the end, Shepard/Tali's cinematic would have been Shepard putting the final touches on the house, bringing Tali over with his hands on her mask to unveil the home as a surprise and then scooping her up and carrying her over the threshold into their home. That's my head canon.

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amxstyle wrote...

SpawnedX wrote...

amxstyle wrote...

SpawnedX wrote...

Anyone else still really depressed at the lack of happiness for Tali, she loses her father and then her best friend and lover.

Fanfiction isn't cutting it for me.


High EMS destroy gives them the reunion chance, even if we do not get to see it ourselves in game.


That's the ending I got, including the breath scene.

However, I don't want implications. I want to see them actually get to build that home on Rannoch. I feel like they ruined the few things in things in the game that made up for all the sadness.


I agree with you on that. It would have been expectionally nice if the very last part of the ending showed a final cinematic for each LI but we are stuck with what we have.

Personally I never would have ended the trilogy with these 3 choices, the final mission should have simply been on the citadel, a very epic, tense and down to the wire finale with TIM as a mini boss - a final struggle versus Harbinger and the crucible simply firing and killing the reapers. No need for the geth and EDI to die.

I would have just designed it to end based on how you played it. On one end, the reapers can win, middle of the road bittersweet, Shepard and some crew die but can still achieve victory for the galaxy. Best ending, everyone walks out of it like a boss, but as a player you would need to work pretty hard for it. The game would have taken earlier choices and EMS into account.

And in the end, Shepard/Tali's cinematic would have been Shepard putting the final touches on the house, bringing Tali over with his hands on her mask to unveil the home as a surprise and then scooping her up and carrying her over the threshold into their home. That's my head canon.

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That's mine too, but it isn't doing it for me.

I write massive campaigns for my local D&D group and if a player chooses to explore romantic avenues, I include good and bad outcomes for the end of the game for that player to achieve based on his decisions and performance.

I never get to have the story told to me, I am always the storyteller and for once I was having a great story told to me. The only problem is, I wasn't given the option to pursue different outcomes. If it meant getting 100% completion on all games and DLC, no deaths in the suicide mission and saving the Geth, than I would have done it to get that very simple cutscene.

Now, I feel like my character was a douche and not a paragon. That a true paragon would not have loved her openly, and despite his internal pain, allow her to find love elsewhere, so that she did not have to deal with the pain of a loss with a best friend and lover.

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amxstyle wrote...

I agree with you on that. It would have been expectionally nice if the very last part of the ending showed a final cinematic for each LI but we are stuck with what we have.

Personally I never would have ended the trilogy with these 3 choices, the final mission should have simply been on the citadel, a very epic, tense and down to the wire finale with TIM as a mini boss - a final struggle versus Harbinger and the crucible simply firing and killing the reapers. No need for the geth and EDI to die.

I would have just designed it to end based on how you played it. On one end, the reapers can win, middle of the road bittersweet, Shepard and some crew die but can still achieve victory for the galaxy. Best ending, everyone walks out of it like a boss, but as a player you would need to work pretty hard for it. The game would have taken earlier choices and EMS into account.

And in the end, Shepard/Tali's cinematic would have been Shepard putting the final touches on the house, bringing Tali over with his hands on her mask to unveil the home as a surprise and then scooping her up and carrying her over the threshold into their home. That's my head canon.


This is exactly what I wanted from the ending tbh. But bioware had to go all artsy and crap, trying to make a message of the ending rather than go for customer satisfaction.

That said though I don't think I would have liked an ending where everyone survived, I would prefer something closer to Virmire - choose who lives. Would make the decision harder if it was between youself and a squadmate. My only issue with the suicide mission is that everyone can survive.

A single still image would be nice for each LI at the end of the game:
Tali - Shepard and Tali on Rannoch
Garrus - Shepard and Garrus on a beach
Jack - Shepard and Jack dancing in a club
Miranda - Walking together with her sister?
Liara - Blue babies?
Ash - Ash reading Shepard poetry in hospital?
Kaiden - Meeting this parents?



Also I love that picture still.

Modifié par Apathy1989, 01 juillet 2012 - 09:10 .


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the stated and understandable reason for no reunion scene is that not everyone would be happy no matter how they do the reunion so instead they just didnt do it

Modifié par weirdnerd, 01 juillet 2012 - 09:18 .


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SpawnedX wrote...

That's mine too, but it isn't doing it for me.

I write massive campaigns for my local D&D group and if a player chooses to explore romantic avenues, I include good and bad outcomes for the end of the game for that player to achieve based on his decisions and performance.

I never get to have the story told to me, I am always the storyteller and for once I was having a great story told to me. The only problem is, I wasn't given the option to pursue different outcomes. If it meant getting 100% completion on all games and DLC, no deaths in the suicide mission and saving the Geth, than I would have done it to get that very simple cutscene.

Now, I feel like my character was a douche and not a paragon. That a true paragon would not have loved her openly, and despite his internal pain, allow her to find love elsewhere, so that she did not have to deal with the pain of a loss with a best friend and lover.


I get ya, as someone myself who wants to write/draw an original graphic novel myself. I would do a perfect playthrough from ME1 -> ME3 if that's what it would take.

Technically, you can not romance her and at least she has Garrus in the end...but that is a tall order for anyone who likes her as a LI over the rest. Every single one of my male Shepards is with Tali. 

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Apathy1989 wrote...

This is exactly what I wanted from the ending tbh. But bioware had to go all artsy and crap, trying to make a message of the ending rather than go for customer satisfaction.

That said though I don't think I would have liked an ending where everyone survived, I would prefer something closer to Virmire - choose who lives. Would make the decision harder if it was between youself and a squadmate. My only issue with the suicide mission is that everyone can survive.

A single still image would be nice for each LI at the end of the game:
Tali - Shepard and Tali on Rannoch
Garrus - Shepard and Garrus on a beach
Jack - Shepard and Jack dancing in a club
Miranda - Walking together with her sister?
Liara - Blue babies?
Ash - Ash reading Shepard poetry in hospital?
Kaiden - Meeting this parents?



Also I love that picture still.


I think they dug themselves a hole with the suicide mission in ME2. Too many variables they then needed to deal with it in ME3. Should have put that on the holding block and saved that type of mission for ME3's finale. It would probably be tough to do another sacrifice well enough. I think a lot of fans may or may not liked that if it showed up again, but I do agree with having touch and meaningful decisions.

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Pretty much this. Back in Mass Effect 1, I had no real preference when it came to my squadmates, whatever seemed to work best in the situation. By ME3, it was Garrus and Tali, everytime.

Tali was Shepard's everything, even if he didn't always show it. There was nothing he wanted more than to build beach-house on Rannoch, with Garrus living next door.(In walking distance of the bar of course xD)

It was the only reason he picked destroy over synthesis, because he couldn't stand to be apart from her again. It was the hardest decision he ever had to make, but he made it for her.

"I will come back Tali...I promise."

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Shadowmourne07 wrote...

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Pretty much this. Back in Mass Effect 1, I had no real preference when it came to my squadmates, whatever seemed to work best in the situation. By ME3, it was Garrus and Tali, everytime.

Tali was Shepard's everything, even if he didn't always show it. There was nothing he wanted more than to build beach-house on Rannoch, with Garrus living next door.(In walking distance of the bar of course xD)

It was the only reason he picked destroy over synthesis, because he couldn't stand to be apart from her again. It was the hardest decision he ever had to make, but he made it for her.

"I will come back Tali...I promise."

This

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SpawnedX wrote...

amxstyle wrote...

SpawnedX wrote...

Anyone else still really depressed at the lack of happiness for Tali, she loses her father and then her best friend and lover.

Fanfiction isn't cutting it for me.


High EMS destroy gives them the reunion chance, even if we do not get to see it ourselves in game.


That's the ending I got, including the breath scene.

However, I don't want implications. I want to see them actually get to build that home on Rannoch. I feel like they ruined the few things in things in the game that made up for all the sadness.


Here's some light-hearted happiness I made for Tali:

 

Hope it eases your pain my friend :)

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I am putting my extensive DMing experience to good use and writing a fan fiction of what happens after the breath scene to try to ease the pain, but it still won't be the same. It's like we wake up every day to this crappy planet and economy where no matter how hard you try, everything can't go wrong, even real life relationships are bumpy. That was the point of fantasy and a fantasy game, to escape the day to day with a nice story.

My nice story was crapped on by BioWare.

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SpawnedX wrote...

I am putting my extensive DMing experience to good use and writing a fan fiction of what happens after the breath scene to try to ease the pain, but it still won't be the same. It's like we wake up every day to this crappy planet and economy where no matter how hard you try, everything can't go wrong, even real life relationships are bumpy. That was the point of fantasy and a fantasy game, to escape the day to day with a nice story.

My nice story was crapped on by BioWare.


This is how we survive. We adapt. Adapt to plotholes, and missing content. To outright lies, no.
This will always hurt but... we will survive.

Here's my effort to help heal the wound.
Chapter 3 is up.
www.fanfiction.net/s/8247105/1/A_Warriors_Love

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I made some edits to my Tali fanart after going through the EC ending.
http://bigcman321.de...nnoch-294012029

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Honestly I'm not really certain what color quarians are anymore. The quarian in the EC synthesis ending (I picked destroy... because I'm pretty selfish when it comes to Tali) seems sort of grayish/bluish. Maybe they range from purplish gray to bluish gray.

I think the next time I paint Tali she'll have her helmet on. It's a lot easier that way.

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Well, I just played through the EC and it was... decent at best. The Tali scene when the Normandy evac'd her was awesome. Still wish you could build the house on Rannoch. :)

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That's a damn good picture, sir. Suits Tali well.