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Bahoogasmif wrote...

i need to test the waters a bit here, does anyone think it possible to restore Legion if the geth still lived? say, for instance, he sent out a copy of himself? let me know if it's too far fetched.
also, dancing tali is... hypnotizing


The geth can be repaired after destroy...^_^

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yes, but i mean Legion in particular. can an individual geth AI be "saved" in something? or transferred wirelessly? just making sure im not contemplating employing space magics.

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Anyone read the FF An unfortunate mix up. That is one messed up FF about Shepard and Tali having a child. One of the most funny things I've ever read. http://www.fanfictio...ortunate_Mix_Up

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Bahoogasmif wrote...

yes, but i mean Legion in particular. can an individual geth AI be "saved" in something? or transferred wirelessly? just making sure im not contemplating employing space magics.

No.
It's established as early as ME1, in the codex, that an AI's individuality cannot be copied or moved from storage device to storage device. It's a quantum thing, and also why Shepard dies in Control, rather than just becoming an AI.

And all these posts about fanfics remind me why I stopped reading them.
Half of them are fix fics for a problem that BioWare and EA themselves fixed. (Argue if you want, cerebellum thinkers, but that's what I say)
And if and when I write any fics, I will make sure the starchild is in them. :devil:
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N7Kopper wrote...

Bahoogasmif wrote...

yes, but i mean Legion in particular. can an individual geth AI be "saved" in something? or transferred wirelessly? just making sure im not contemplating employing space magics.

No.
It's established as early as ME1, in the codex, that an AI's individuality cannot be copied or moved from storage device to storage device. It's a quantum thing, and also why Shepard dies in Control, rather than just becoming an AI.

And all these posts about fanfics remind me why I stopped reading them.
Half of them are fix fics for a problem that BioWare and EA themselves fixed. (Argue if you want, cerebellum thinkers, but that's what I say)
And if and when I write any fics, I will make sure the starchild is in them. :devil:


Not so sure this applies to the Geth. The Geth were not true AI, just programs and can be transferred around. After the reaper upgrades.... not sure what they are but they appear to operate on the same platforms so doubt have the quantum blue box.

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It's the reason Legion was pretty much an individual even before the upgrades.
They spent several years in the same platform hunting Shepard.
Less hardware hopping = more personality.

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N7Kopper wrote...

Bahoogasmif wrote...

yes, but i mean Legion in particular. can an individual geth AI be "saved" in something? or transferred wirelessly? just making sure im not contemplating employing space magics.

No.
It's established as early as ME1, in the codex, that an AI's individuality cannot be copied or moved from storage device to storage device. It's a quantum thing, and also why Shepard dies in Control, rather than just becoming an AI.

And all these posts about fanfics remind me why I stopped reading them.
Half of them are fix fics for a problem that BioWare and EA themselves fixed. (Argue if you want, cerebellum thinkers, but that's what I say)
And if and when I write any fics, I will make sure the starchild is in them. :devil:
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I have starchild in mine, I just made shepard not act like a ****.

WHAT DOES COMMANDER SHEPARD LOOK LIKE?
what?
SAY WHAT AGAIN. I DARE YOU MOTHER****ER I DOUBLE DARE YOU
what?
WHAT PLANET YOU FROM?
what?
WHAT AINT NO PLANET I EVER HEARD OF, THEY SPEAK KHELISH IN WHAT?
what?
DESCRIBE COMMANDER SHEPARD.
he's white
YEAH? DOES HE LOOK LIKE A ****?
no
Then why you trying to **** him like a **** Starchild?
what?
Commander Shepard doesn't like to get ****ed by anyone except Tali'Zorah.
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The EC did a pretty good job of it already.
The guy does as well as he can for someone with, what, two hit points left?

And if you pick Refuse (you moron you've doomed her and us all) the speech is, admittedly, pretty cool. If borne of foolishness.

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N7Kopper wrote...

The EC did a pretty good job of it already.
The guy does as well as he can for someone with, what, two hit points left?

And if you pick Refuse (you moron you've doomed her and us all) the speech is, admittedly, pretty cool. If borne of foolishness.


The idea of Tali, Garrus, and all the others getting wiped out by the Reapers pretty much renders Refuse null for me.

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N7Kopper wrote...

The EC did a pretty good job of it already.
The guy does as well as he can for someone with, what, two hit points left?

And if you pick Refuse (you moron you've doomed her and us all) the speech is, admittedly, pretty cool. If borne of foolishness.


I picked refuse at first because I thought I was indoctrinated.  But nope, it just dooms the entire galaxy to the reapers, which some could say is the worst outcome possible.  After accidentally picking refuse again, in the end, I had to suck it up, and I picked destroy.  It was nice that they added in actual flashbacks for the characters, and when I saw EDI's flashback, I was like, "NOOOOOOOOOOO!  What am I doing?" and then when I saw Tali's flashback, I was like, "Dawww I hope I see you soon honey."  

The whole time, I wasn't too sure if Shepard would make it out alive.  It was sad.  So so sad.  Seeing Tali with his nametag, hesistant to put it on the wall, it was done well.  But once again, it lacks conclusion.  I do hope that Bioware adds even more to the ending and shows Shepard + Tali united forever together in each other's arms.  A simple breath scene won't do it alone.

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forthary wrote...
I do hope that Bioware adds even more to the ending and shows Shepard + Tali united forever together in each other's arms.  A simple breath scene won't do it alone.


I'm afraid that is the stuff of fanfiction and our own imaginations. BioWare seems hellbent on leaving a lot of the ending to player interpretation, even after the Extended Cut.

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An extension beyond that breath might have been nice.
But it would not only be forcing character motivation upon people who may want something different, but it would likely guilt trip people who think Control or Synthesis are better. (I don't, but just... don't like other people to be hated based off of principle, manner, or even fetish, if they're not hurting anyone else in the real world - although my gut sometimes disagrees)

I mean, picking Destroy to live is kind of selfish, yes. But I didn't pick it to live. This is why I like the endings, they can prove a great analysis on your motivation - even if fictional.

Although, I do admit on attempting to shoot the Catalyst first time. My gun jammed, and wouldn't let me shoot him or Destroy the Reapers. I had to reload my save.

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That is a cute tush... :) <3

BrysonC wrote...

forthary wrote...
I do hope
that Bioware adds even more to the ending and shows Shepard + Tali
united forever together in each other's arms.  A simple breath scene
won't do it alone.


I'm afraid that is the stuff
of fanfiction and our own imaginations. BioWare seems hellbent on
leaving a lot of the ending to player interpretation, even after the
Extended Cut.

And I'm glad. It's more fun that way.
Besides, what's an epilogue without my MP characters? B)











...thank you, Marauder Shields.

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N7Kopper wrote...
I mean, picking Destroy to live is kind of selfish, yes. But I didn't pick it to live. This is why I like the endings, they can prove a great analysis on your motivation - even if fictional.


I admit I picked Destroy primarily to let Shep live and hopefully see Tali again, but also because I remembered what Anderson said - "We destroy them, or they destroy us." I put more stock in his words than Little Space Hitler's. I just don't trust Control or Synthesis.

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BrysonC wrote...

N7Kopper wrote...
I mean, picking Destroy to live is kind of selfish, yes. But I didn't pick it to live. This is why I like the endings, they can prove a great analysis on your motivation - even if fictional.


I admit I picked Destroy primarily to let Shep live and hopefully see Tali again, but also because I remembered what Anderson said - "We destroy them, or they destroy us." I put more stock in his words than Little Space Hitler's. I just don't trust Control or Synthesis.

Hah, that's true. In-character (or the first time around) it's unwise to trust the Catalyst.
It's actually almost ironic that the Catalyst isn't lying whatsoever. Although Control and Synthesis' epilogues could do with a little more illumination on the downsides, that's pretty much the only problem with the epilogue I have (well, that, and Refuse having the Reapers not discover and destroy Liara's data caches - those should only survive if your EMS is so low that Refuse becomes the best of a plethora of very bad options)

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Bahoogasmif wrote...

yes, but i mean Legion in particular. can an individual geth AI be "saved" in something? or transferred wirelessly? just making sure im not contemplating employing space magics.


No. Legion sacrificed itself during the Reunification War. His code, his 'personality' has been disbanded, so the Reaper upgraded code and his experience could be disturbed to all Geth.

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BrysonC wrote...

InLoveWithTaliZorah wrote...
I'm working on two and I'm in desperate need of constructive feedback :)


Jeez, you're working on two at the same time?! I'm having a hard enough time outlining one of them. :P


It's really difficult. I just wrote a chapter that is about 9,000 words long and I've decided that two stories at once is too much. I'm finishing my shorter story and then going back to my long story. This dichotomy in my brain is hard. I have to switch between two worlds. Agh! And Tali is a bit different in both as well as Shepard. The switching is too much.

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N7Kopper wrote...

BrysonC wrote...

N7Kopper wrote...
I mean, picking Destroy to live is kind of selfish, yes. But I didn't pick it to live. This is why I like the endings, they can prove a great analysis on your motivation - even if fictional.


I admit I picked Destroy primarily to let Shep live and hopefully see Tali again, but also because I remembered what Anderson said - "We destroy them, or they destroy us." I put more stock in his words than Little Space Hitler's. I just don't trust Control or Synthesis.

Hah, that's true. In-character (or the first time around) it's unwise to trust the Catalyst.
It's actually almost ironic that the Catalyst isn't lying whatsoever. Although Control and Synthesis' epilogues could do with a little more illumination on the downsides, that's pretty much the only problem with the epilogue I have (well, that, and Refuse having the Reapers not discover and destroy Liara's data caches - those should only survive if your EMS is so low that Refuse becomes the best of a plethora of very bad options)


The entire existence of the Catalyst makes me suspicious, not to mention the fact it somehow takes on the form of the boy Shepard's been hallucinating and dreaming about since the Reapers hit. That's the strongest support for the Indoctrination Theory I've seen so far.

I don't want to turn this into the 9001st debate about that, but the suspicious nature of Little Space Hitler leaves me two real options every time I play: Destroy or Refuse, and like I've said, Refuse is pretty much a no-go for me.

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amxstyle wrote...

Tom80 wrote...

InLoveWithTaliZorah wrote...

Sad news: Sergio/Andrio is ending it soon. :crying::crying::crying:



Well, one chapter will definitely still come.
After that at least one more for preparation for ME 3.


Wait, so one more chapter and then continuing it in a seperate fic or is he done continuing the story completely?


Sergio is busy writing the last couple of chapters as we speak. They are taking a while because Sergio wants to end it so Sergio has all the loose ends to tie up. Not sure what Sergio is doing but whatever it is, it's always been golden.

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InLoveWithTaliZorah wrote...

BrysonC wrote...

InLoveWithTaliZorah wrote...
I'm working on two and I'm in desperate need of constructive feedback :)


Jeez, you're working on two at the same time?! I'm having a hard enough time outlining one of them. :P


It's really difficult. I just wrote a chapter that is about 9,000 words long and I've decided that two stories at once is too much. I'm finishing my shorter story and then going back to my long story. This dichotomy in my brain is hard. I have to switch between two worlds. Agh! And Tali is a bit different in both as well as Shepard. The switching is too much.


I peeked at the fanfics you have linked in your sig, really good stuff. =)  I have a 9-chapter Tali/Shepard fic outlined, hope I can match up.

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If this goes To fanfics i would like to mention the amazing Spirit Of Truth and Spirit of Redemption

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[quote]BrysonC wrote...

[quote]InLoveWithTaliZorah wrote...

[quote]BrysonC wrote...

[quote]InLoveWithTaliZorah wrote...
I'm working on two and I'm in desperate need of constructive feedback :)

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Jeez, you're working on two at the same time?! I'm having a hard enough time outlining one of them. :P

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I peeked at the fanfics you have linked in your sig, really good stuff. =)  I have a 9-chapter Tali/Shepard fic outlined, hope I can match up.

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Match up? You give me far too much credit. I'm brand new to writing.
The First Human Spectre was a big inspiration for me as well.
Thanks.
Hope to see your work up soon. Tali fanfics are the only ones I have ever read so far and I don't mind keeping it that way.

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I see you're discussing fanfics, I've read several of Sergio/Andrio's stuff, it's brilliant, I suck at writing though, I don't know why my writing just seems nothingy :(

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I'm writing a FanFiction, but I want to change the story. Insted of the crucible, they find a device that disables reaper shield. So they have liberate every planet that was invaded by the Reapers. Prolonged warfare on Earth, Palaven and Thessia. What do you think? I have a new OC.

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-N7-Seeker wrote...

I'm writing a FanFiction, but I want to change the story. Insted of the crucible, they find a device that disables reaper shield. So they have liberate every planet that was invaded by the Reapers. Prolonged warfare on Earth, Palaven and Thessia. What do you think? I have a new OC.

Sounds good, I just realised why my writing is bad, I need to put more detail in, sry got sidetracked, yeah I like that idea