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amxstyle wrote...

Perhaps uninstalling/reinstaling the DLC pack will fix it? Or worst case the whole game.


I would, if it would be a final solution.......so far nobody posted a comment about THAT in the support forum.....Posted Image

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Not sure if this has been posted, but I’ve been digging through the audio files for ME3 and it looks like an entire conversation with Tali had been cut.
Tali is trying to get medical supplies for quarians, but the turian she is talking to does not want to give them to her.  Shepard has different responses to this indicating you can choose how to respond and it is not just an auto dialogue conversation.   Either way Tali does not get the supplies. 
This takes place on the presidium according to the names of the files.  I can’t recall this being in the game.

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I thought that convo did exist...And that it was an auto dialogue. it's on the presidium you can either support Tali or support some turian about medical supplies. Just go to the citadel after you get Tali and before you finish Rannoch. Near the same place you have the convo with her about getting chased by assassins.

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Nvm.

Modifié par BrysonC, 14 juillet 2012 - 09:45 .


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They both exist. The med supply one can occur as soon as you pick her up to start the Rannoch arc - just head to the citadel. The "suit rat" one occurs at the conclusion since she becomes an ambassador for the quarians.

Modifié par amxstyle, 14 juillet 2012 - 09:48 .


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amxstyle wrote...

They both exist. The med supply one can occur as soon as you pick her up to start the Rannoch arc - just head to the citadel. The "suit rat" one occurs at the conclusion since she becomes an ambassador for the quarians.


Ah, damn. In both of my playthroughs I irrationally thought that if I didn't immediately do the Rannoch missions, I would risk mission expiration or something. I'll have to make sure to stop by the Citadel after picking her up next time.

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I've encountered that med supply one on every game, so I would never have thought it would be one that could be missed.

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BrysonC wrote...

amxstyle wrote...

They both exist. The med supply one can occur as soon as you pick her up to start the Rannoch arc - just head to the citadel. The "suit rat" one occurs at the conclusion since she becomes an ambassador for the quarians.


Ah, damn. In both of my playthroughs I irrationally thought that if I didn't immediately do the Rannoch missions, I would risk mission expiration or something. I'll have to make sure to stop by the Citadel after picking her up next time.


This is what I had always done.

Thanks for the info I try this next playthrough I do.

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sentinel_87 wrote...

BrysonC wrote...

amxstyle wrote...

They both exist. The med supply one can occur as soon as you pick her up to start the Rannoch arc - just head to the citadel. The "suit rat" one occurs at the conclusion since she becomes an ambassador for the quarians.


Ah, damn. In both of my playthroughs I irrationally thought that if I didn't immediately do the Rannoch missions, I would risk mission expiration or something. I'll have to make sure to stop by the Citadel after picking her up next time.


This is what I had always done.

Thanks for the info I try this next playthrough I do.


You don't have to rush the priority Rannoch missions at all once she is on the Normandy and selectable as a squadmate. In fact you can save either the Rachni mission to bring Tali (which is actually quite funny between the dialogue that suggests to Shepard - why the hell did you bring me here? and of course "spiders spiders spiders") or save both of the turian bomb missions for her. 

I also do all of the side missions that open up after the citadel coup with her, which I think include some N7 ones, the monastery with Samara, etc. It's a good idea anyway for first playthroughs to get your repped maxed for the peace options.

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amxstyle wrote...

sentinel_87 wrote...

BrysonC wrote...

amxstyle wrote...

They both exist. The med supply one can occur as soon as you pick her up to start the Rannoch arc - just head to the citadel. The "suit rat" one occurs at the conclusion since she becomes an ambassador for the quarians.


Ah, damn. In both of my playthroughs I irrationally thought that if I didn't immediately do the Rannoch missions, I would risk mission expiration or something. I'll have to make sure to stop by the Citadel after picking her up next time.


This is what I had always done.

Thanks for the info I try this next playthrough I do.


You don't have to rush the priority Rannoch missions at all once she is on the Normandy and selectable as a squadmate. In fact you can save either the Rachni mission to bring Tali (which is actually quite funny between the dialogue that suggests to Shepard - why the hell did you bring me here? and of course "spiders spiders spiders") or save both of the turian bomb missions for her. 

I also do all of the side missions that open up after the citadel coup with her, which I think include some N7 ones, the monastery with Samara, etc. It's a good idea anyway for first playthroughs to get your repped maxed for the peace options.


WAIT, you can take Tali on the Rannoch hub missions and into the Rachni cave? I thought those would expire after curing the genophage. o___o

Hell, I might have to do a third playthrough just to take Tali on those missions.

What exactly is the rule for mission expiration? Because I always assumed that you shouldn't start one Priority mission until all the side quests are cleared. For instance, the monastery side quest opens up before meeting with the quarian Admirals, so I assumed it would expire as soon as the Rannoch missions became available.

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BrysonC wrote...

WAIT, you can take Tali on the Rannoch hub missions and into the Rachni cave? I thought those would expire after curing the genophage. o___o

Hell, I might have to do a third playthrough just to take Tali on those missions.

What exactly is the rule for mission expiration? Because I always assumed that you shouldn't start one Priority mission until all the side quests are cleared. For instance, the monastery side quest opens up before meeting with the quarian Admirals, so I assumed it would expire as soon as the Rannoch missions became available.


Some just have different timers or conditions than others.

For example, you can't wait too long for Grissom academy but the Tuchanka missions you don't do will last till Thessia - so you can either save the Rachni for later or both Turian bomb ones. However, if you start start the first Turian bomb one to open up the last Priority Tuchanka mission, you can't hold off on the second bomb one.

I think most if not all N7 missions can saved for later. I don't remember all the details off the top of my head. I think the mass effect wiki will probably have info on how long each mission can be saved.

Modifié par amxstyle, 15 juillet 2012 - 12:59 .


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I don't frequent this thread nearly as much as I should, but I'm just dropping by to show you guys something you might be interested in.

I made a Tali romance version of the Extended Cut.

I know my Tali voice isn't that great, but this is how I envisioned the EC should have went. I hope you guys enjoy it!

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amxstyle wrote...

BrysonC wrote...

WAIT, you can take Tali on the Rannoch hub missions and into the Rachni cave? I thought those would expire after curing the genophage. o___o

Hell, I might have to do a third playthrough just to take Tali on those missions.

What exactly is the rule for mission expiration? Because I always assumed that you shouldn't start one Priority mission until all the side quests are cleared. For instance, the monastery side quest opens up before meeting with the quarian Admirals, so I assumed it would expire as soon as the Rannoch missions became available.


Some just have different timers or conditions than others.

For example, you can't wait too long for Grissom academy but the Tuchanka missions you don't do will last till Thessia - so you can either save the Rachni for later or both Turian bomb ones. However, if you start start the first Turian bomb one to open up the last Priority Tuchanka mission, you can't hold off on the second bomb one.

I think most if not all N7 missions can saved for later. I don't remember all the details off the top of my head. I think the mass effect wiki will probably have info on how long each mission can be saved.


So just to clarify, I could do the main Tuchanka 'genophage' mission before the turian bomb/rachni missions, pick up Tali, and then go back to those? Like I said, I always just assumed that the bomb/rachni missions would expire if you completed the genophage mission.

Interesting stuff, glad you brought it to my attention. :)

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Question; I decided to not recruit Tali during my current ME2 play through - mostly our of curiosity.
Are there any notable differences to her story arc/rannoch story arc this way?

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DirtySHISN0 wrote...

Question; I decided to not recruit Tali during my current ME2 play through - mostly our of curiosity.
Are there any notable differences to her story arc/rannoch story arc this way?


considering on her recruitmet missino you basically save her life? I would say so,

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BrysonC wrote...

amxstyle wrote...

BrysonC wrote...

WAIT, you can take Tali on the Rannoch hub missions and into the Rachni cave? I thought those would expire after curing the genophage. o___o

Hell, I might have to do a third playthrough just to take Tali on those missions.

What exactly is the rule for mission expiration? Because I always assumed that you shouldn't start one Priority mission until all the side quests are cleared. For instance, the monastery side quest opens up before meeting with the quarian Admirals, so I assumed it would expire as soon as the Rannoch missions became available.


Some just have different timers or conditions than others.

For example, you can't wait too long for Grissom academy but the Tuchanka missions you don't do will last till Thessia - so you can either save the Rachni for later or both Turian bomb ones. However, if you start start the first Turian bomb one to open up the last Priority Tuchanka mission, you can't hold off on the second bomb one.

I think most if not all N7 missions can saved for later. I don't remember all the details off the top of my head. I think the mass effect wiki will probably have info on how long each mission can be saved.


So just to clarify, I could do the main Tuchanka 'genophage' mission before the turian bomb/rachni missions, pick up Tali, and then go back to those? Like I said, I always just assumed that the bomb/rachni missions would expire if you completed the genophage mission.

Interesting stuff, glad you brought it to my attention. :)


Yeah, just to make sure: to open the last priority for Tuchanka, you need to do at least one of those missions. If you wanna save the rachni, you will need to do both bomb ones...or do the rachni one but do NOT start the first bomb one if you plan to save it for later. You can't save all 3 unfortunetly. 

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Strelsky wrote...

DirtySHISN0 wrote...

Question; I decided to not recruit Tali during my current ME2 play through - mostly our of curiosity.
Are there any notable differences to her story arc/rannoch story arc this way?


considering on her recruitmet missino you basically save her life? I would say so,


I have never done that. I assumed she would die if you didn't save her on Haestrom.

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amxstyle wrote...

Strelsky wrote...

DirtySHISN0 wrote...

Question; I decided to not recruit Tali during my current ME2 play through - mostly our of curiosity.
Are there any notable differences to her story arc/rannoch story arc this way?


considering on her recruitmet missino you basically save her life? I would say so,


I have never done that. I assumed she would die if you didn't save her on Haestrom.


I'll find out later tomorrow, long play through though because im doing obscure things/things in obscure orders.

Will have been such a waste of time if A, she is just dead or B, nothng is different.

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DirtySHISN0 wrote...

Question; I decided to not recruit Tali during my current ME2 play through - mostly our of curiosity.
Are there any notable differences to her story arc/rannoch story arc this way?

Wait, it's possible to not recruit someone? I've never tried that.:blink:
And why would you leave Tali on Haestrom to die, why do such horrible, atrocious thing?:crying:

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Formis_Sage wrote...

DirtySHISN0 wrote...

Question; I decided to not recruit Tali during my current ME2 play through - mostly our of curiosity.
Are there any notable differences to her story arc/rannoch story arc this way?

Wait, it's possible to not recruit someone? I've never tried that.:blink:
And why would you leave Tali on Haestrom to die, why do such horrible, atrocious thing?:crying:


to see what happens in ME3, wonder if it was similar to garrus having different dialogue in ME2 if you didn't recruit him in ME.

Plus i can't romance her anyway so no great loss.

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DirtySHISN0 wrote...
to see what happens in ME3, wonder if it was similar to garrus having different dialogue in ME2 if you didn't recruit him in ME.

Plus i can't romance her anyway so no great loss.

Why have I never tired not recruiting someone in ME1 and 2? I don't even know it was possible.:pinched:

And "no great loss"?! I'd take Tali even as best friend if I got the chance.:o

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There are only certain ones you can do it with, in ME its a choice between garrus or wrex, you need at least one of them i think.

As for ME2 i dont know what the minimum is you must recruit.

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DirtySHISN0 wrote...

There are only certain ones you can do it with, in ME its a choice between garrus or wrex, you need at least one of them i think.

As for ME2 i dont know what the minimum is you must recruit.

Well, I guess in ME2 just do missions until you get the Collector Ship mission to get the IFF, which probably means to start doing loyalty missions instead of recruiting ones.:huh:
That leaves only Samara, Thane and Tali possibly non-recruitable.

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xXxMinkiexXx wrote...

I don't frequent this thread nearly as much as I should, but I'm just dropping by to show you guys something you might be interested in.

I made a Tali romance version of the Extended Cut.

I know my Tali voice isn't that great, but this is how I envisioned the EC should have went. I hope you guys enjoy it!

It's not that bad, well sounds a bit like Tali on helium which at times kinda kills the mood, but it's fun.:lol:
But the synthesis space magic kills it for me anyway so nothing really changed there.:whistle:
All in all though it was done nicely, don't you want to do one for High EMS Destroy ending as well?:innocent:

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If you want someone who can sound like Tali. Check these out. This is the best Tali sound-a-like I've heard. http://soundcloud.com/tali_voices/

;)

sentinel_87 wrote...

Not sure if this has been posted, but
I’ve been digging through the audio files for ME3 and it looks like an
entire conversation with Tali had been cut.
Tali is trying to get
medical supplies for quarians, but the turian she is talking to does not
want to give them to her.  Shepard has different responses to this
indicating you can choose how to respond and it is not just an auto
dialogue conversation.   Either way Tali does not get the supplies. 
This takes place on the presidium according to the names of the files.  I can’t recall this being in the game.

I
literally just played this part yesterday. You can pick to either side
with Tali or the Turian. I sided with Tali and either way she didn't get
the supplies. I found her in the presidium commons before doing the
final mission on Rannoch.

Modifié par bigCman123, 15 juillet 2012 - 06:23 .