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I wanted to share this with you all - to have the discussion. See, my wife and I had a discussion last night about Tali's hair. She didn't like the photo, because in addition to the chop job, she didn't think Tali would have so much hair - that the quarian race as a whole would be rather hairless, from living inside of suits for so long.

My viewpoint was that since the animals on Rannoch were the ones that spread the pollen (even Tali mentions this) hair seemed like the best way to do it. The pollen gets caught on hair, and spread as the quarian would move around the world. I even said it might be that the quarians are actually hairier than the picture suggests, though I doubted it. My theory was simple. Tali, when we meet her in the game, is essentially a maiden. She's on her pilgrimage, is this kind of shy, nervous girl who has somehow stepped into a lot more than she bargained for with the information on Saren and the geth. By romancing her, encouraging her, she blossoms into this amazing woman...who still views herself as a girl, pretending to be something more. (It's in the dialogue when you first encounter her in ME3)

So I argued that my wife was correct - that hair underneath the suits was not a common thing at all - that quarians were either bald or had very short hair. Tali, however, was a maiden, and her hair was a vanity - she didn't have a mother around to take her aside and go 'Tali, hair might not be a good idea.' (And Raan might not've until it was too late) Notice the difference in Tali's headgear versus Raan's or Xen's. They're older women - they might've just gotten tired of fussing with it and shaved all or most of it off, while Tali's, which flairs out around a wider collar, is still very much present. She's still young enough and energetic enough to want to mess with the whole thing.

What do you guys think? (Or has this question already been answered?)


I think hair is more of a " Is it comfortable for you" kinda deal. If it bothers them, I would think that they'd cut it short or shave it all off. as for the spreading of pollen, I think those things on there neck are organic, not Cybernetic. Its probably some sort of sypioic organ. Like the Navi and there wierd tails. and the little circles are holes where they absorb the pollen. Just a thought. And something that may be creepy or not, in my head canon, when Tali gets excited, he hears a little airblower sound.

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Hmm. You know you may be overthinking things when we start talking about the amount of hair Tali can possibly have under her suit due to scientific reasons. xD

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Tali Nar Shepahard vas normandy wrote...

I think hair is more of a " Is it comfortable for you" kinda deal. If it bothers them, I would think that they'd cut it short or shave it all off. as for the spreading of pollen, I think those things on there neck are organic, not Cybernetic. Its probably some sort of sypioic organ. Like the Navi and there wierd tails. and the little circles are holes where they absorb the pollen. Just a thought. And something that may be creepy or not, in my head canon, when Tali gets excited, he hears a little airblower sound.

No, no, no no no! :pinched: I am not associating anything from that generic horse-crap of a movie with a character as awesome as Tali'Zorah.

Modifié par AVPen, 24 juillet 2012 - 04:12 .


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AVPen wrote...

Tali Nar Shepahard vas normandy wrote...

I think hair is more of a " Is it comfortable for you" kinda deal. If it bothers them, I would think that they'd cut it short or shave it all off. as for the spreading of pollen, I think those things on there neck are organic, not Cybernetic. Its probably some sort of symbiotic organ. Like the Navi and there wierd tails. and the little circles are holes where they absorb the pollen. Just a thought. And something that may be creepy or not, in my head canon, when Tali gets excited, he hears a little airblower sound.

No, no, no no no! :pinched: I am not associating anything from that generic horse-crap of a movie with a character as awesome as Tali'Zorah.


First, Avatar had Sigourney Weaver, nuff.
Second, its just an example for quarians, not Tali.

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I'm glad she has hair...

Doesn't bug me at all, very good reasons why Quarians would have hair...

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Happy National Tequila Day, Tali fans! Y'all are a classy bunch!

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Fixed her hand (no more middle knuckle) and made some edits.
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bigCman123 wrote...

Fixed her hand (no more middle knuckle) and made some edits.
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http://bigcman321.de...-Edit-316688200


I feel like I owe you something for this stuff. Thanks for doing it.

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BrysonC wrote...

bigCman123 wrote...

Fixed her hand (no more middle knuckle) and made some edits.
http://bigcman321.de...-Edit-316688200


I feel like I owe you something for this stuff. Thanks for doing it.


I did it for myself too. Kind comments are usually enough... Unless I was doing an actual comission. I've been wanting to do this for a while anyways.;)

Modifié par bigCman123, 24 juillet 2012 - 06:42 .


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bigCman123 wrote...

BrysonC wrote...

bigCman123 wrote...

Fixed her hand (no more middle knuckle) and made some edits.
http://bigcman321.de...-Edit-316688200


I feel like I owe you something for this stuff. Thanks for doing it.


I did it for myself too. Kind comments are usually enough... Unless I was doing an actual comission. I've been wanting to do this for a while anyways.;)


Amazing, but could you give her nails a more natural look, intsead of nail polish. How would she put it on?!?

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Tali Nar Shepahard vas normandy wrote...

bigCman123 wrote...

BrysonC wrote...

bigCman123 wrote...

Fixed her hand (no more middle knuckle) and made some edits.
http://bigcman321.de...-Edit-316688200


I feel like I owe you something for this stuff. Thanks for doing it.


I did it for myself too. Kind comments are usually enough... Unless I was doing an actual comission. I've been wanting to do this for a while anyways.;)


Amazing, but could you give her nails a more natural look, intsead of nail polish. How would she put it on?!?

Perhaps it's blood, instead? As in, they're naturally that way? Hmm?

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 Hi,

I did a quick photoshop with the image from 
bigCman123  (hope you do not mind), to see if I can fit the stock image Tali with in game costume. Hope you guys like it.

I know the face is a little too red :P

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Minor nerdrage moment go:
The "stock" isn't generic stock (although I guess it technically would be stock if you use the Photoshop terminology) but it is Miss England 2005, who's name I forget how to spell. Sure it's up on the wiki, however.

I wouldn't be surprised if the rights for that photo were paid for.

Modifié par N7Kopper, 24 juillet 2012 - 09:38 .


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N7Kopper wrote...

Minor nerdrage moment go:
The "stock" isn't generic stock (although I guess it technically would be stock if you use the Photoshop terminology) but it is Miss England 2005, who's name I forget how to spell. Sure it's up on the wiki, however.

I wouldn't be surprised if the rights for that photo were paid for.


How's THAT for a break in immersion? Sitting there playing Mass Effect, excited to see your character's love interest's face, and then you see a tweaked photo of Miss England 2005.

BioWare dropped the ball on that one. I know we all agree, and it's been said a million times, but I'm saying it again.

Modifié par BrysonC, 24 juillet 2012 - 09:56 .


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Tali Nar Shepahard vas normandy wrote...

AVPen wrote...
No, no, no no no! :pinched: I am not associating anything from that generic horse-crap of a movie with a character as awesome as Tali'Zorah.

First, Avatar had Sigourney Weaver, nuff.
Second, its just an example for quarians, not Tali.

1. So did Alien Resurection, your point being? :?
2. Last I checked, Tali was and is still a quarian, so yes it applies to her as well. =]

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BrysonC wrote...

N7Kopper wrote...

Minor nerdrage moment go:
The "stock" isn't generic stock (although I guess it technically would be stock if you use the Photoshop terminology) but it is Miss England 2005, who's name I forget how to spell. Sure it's up on the wiki, however.

I wouldn't be surprised if the rights for that photo were paid for.


How's THAT for a break in immersion? Sitting there playing Mass Effect, excited to see your character's love interest's face, and then you see a tweaked photo of Miss England 2005.

BioWare dropped the ball on that one. I know we all agree, and it's been said a million times, but I'm saying it again.

It's not an immersion break, it's fridge logic. Because how many of us were looking at anything other than the face? The face which was very well done, I'll have you know.

And then some idiot goes and points out the hand to you. And you then cannot unsee.

My immersion was more broken by Shepard nearly dying at the beginning of the second game.
Master Immunity + some of the best armour in the game =/= hardsuit punctures from impacts of Normandy wreckage. Seriously, not even SoverSaren could harm my Shepard.

Modifié par N7Kopper, 24 juillet 2012 - 10:06 .


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AVPen wrote...

Tali Nar Shepahard vas normandy wrote...

AVPen wrote...
No, no, no no no! :pinched: I am not associating anything from that generic horse-crap of a movie with a character as awesome as Tali'Zorah.

First, Avatar had Sigourney Weaver, nuff.
Second, its just an example for quarians, not Tali.

1. So did Alien Resurection, your point being? :?
2. Last I checked, Tali was and is still a quarian, so yes it applies to her as well. =]


That was an Alien disguised as Sigourney Weaver.
And who cares.

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N7Kopper wrote...

BrysonC wrote...

N7Kopper wrote...

Minor nerdrage moment go:
The "stock" isn't generic stock (although I guess it technically would be stock if you use the Photoshop terminology) but it is Miss England 2005, who's name I forget how to spell. Sure it's up on the wiki, however.

I wouldn't be surprised if the rights for that photo were paid for.


How's THAT for a break in immersion? Sitting there playing Mass Effect, excited to see your character's love interest's face, and then you see a tweaked photo of Miss England 2005.

BioWare dropped the ball on that one. I know we all agree, and it's been said a million times, but I'm saying it again.

It's not an immersion break, it's fridge logic. Because how many of us were looking at anything other than the face? The face which was very well done, I'll have you know.

And then some idiot goes and points out the hand to you. And you then cannot unsee.

My immersion was more broken by Shepard nearly dying at the beginning of the second game.
Master Immunity + some of the best armour in the game =/= hardsuit punctures from impacts of Normandy wreckage. Seriously, not even SoverSaren could harm my Shepard.


I didn't even notice anything was wrong with the hand. Even now that I know there's apparently some error with the hand, I don't really care about it. I DO care about the fact that BioWare cared so little about this particular aspect of the game that some guy just said "Ehh, let's Photoshop Miss England" and then threw that in our faces.

Also, would it REALLY have been so hard to give us at least a short glimpse of an in-game model for Tali's face? They already skimped on that during her romance scene in ME2, so I was sure they would fix that issue in ME3. Nope.

But I'm beating a dead horse here.

Also, yes, the whole Shepard death thing in ME2 was eyebrow-raising, but whatareyougonnado.

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What about the Sigourney talk on the TALI THREAD ????

What happened ?

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N7Kopper wrote...

Tali Nar Shepahard vas normandy wrote...

bigCman123 wrote...

BrysonC wrote...

bigCman123 wrote...

Fixed her hand (no more middle knuckle) and made some edits.
http://bigcman321.de...-Edit-316688200


I feel like I owe you something for this stuff. Thanks for doing it.


Quarian blood color is the same as humans, so that would not be blood. And if it was, the nail would still look like ours, but with red under or a reddish tint. Its to fake looking. Now, someone remove that hideous naile polish. * In uber gay voice*

I did it for myself too. Kind comments are usually enough... Unless I was doing an actual comission. I've been wanting to do this for a while anyways.;)


Amazing, but could you give her nails a more natural look, intsead of nail polish. How would she put it on?!?

Perhaps it's blood, instead? As in, they're naturally that way? Hmm?



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Tali Nar Shepahard vas normandy wrote...

N7Kopper wrote...

Tali Nar Shepahard vas normandy wrote...

bigCman123 wrote...

BrysonC wrote...

bigCman123 wrote...

Fixed her hand (no more middle knuckle) and made some edits.
http://bigcman321.de...-Edit-316688200


I feel like I owe you something for this stuff. Thanks for doing it.


Quarian blood color is the same as humans, so that would not be blood. And if it was, the nail would still look like ours, but with red under or a reddish tint. Its to fake looking. Now, someone remove that hideous naile polish. * In uber gay voice*

I did it for myself too. Kind comments are usually enough... Unless I was doing an actual comission. I've been wanting to do this for a while anyways.;)


Amazing, but could you give her nails a more natural look, intsead of nail polish. How would she put it on?!?

Perhaps it's blood, instead? As in, they're naturally that way? Hmm?

Oops, typed in wrong place.

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Tali Nar Shepahard vas normandy wrote...

Tali Nar Shepahard vas normandy wrote...

N7Kopper wrote...

Tali Nar Shepahard vas normandy wrote...

bigCman123 wrote...

BrysonC wrote...

bigCman123 wrote...

Fixed her hand (no more middle knuckle) and made some edits.
http://bigcman321.de...-Edit-316688200


I feel like I owe you something for this stuff. Thanks for doing it.


Quarian blood color is the same as humans, so that would not be blood. And if it was, the nail would still look like ours, but with red under or a reddish tint. Its to fake looking. Now, someone remove that hideous naile polish. * In uber gay voice*

I did it for myself too. Kind comments are usually enough... Unless I was doing an actual comission. I've been wanting to do this for a while anyways.;)


Amazing, but could you give her nails a more natural look, intsead of nail polish. How would she put it on?!?

Perhaps it's blood, instead? As in, they're naturally that way? Hmm?

Oops, typed in wrong place.


Quarian blood color is the same as humans, so that would not be blood. And if it was, the nail would still look like ours, but with red under or a reddish tint. Its to fake looking. Now, someone remove that hideous naile polish. * In uber gay voice*

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Seems a lot of good fan-fics are coming out.  Just found this one a few days ago, and I like what the author's doing.

Family Doesn't End With Blood

Starts at the end of ME 1, a retelling of ME 2 and focuses on Shepard and Tali's relationship.  Really good recent chapter!

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N7Kopper wrote...

BrysonC wrote...

N7Kopper wrote...

Minor nerdrage moment go:
The "stock" isn't generic stock (although I guess it technically would be stock if you use the Photoshop terminology) but it is Miss England 2005, who's name I forget how to spell. Sure it's up on the wiki, however.

I wouldn't be surprised if the rights for that photo were paid for.


How's THAT for a break in immersion? Sitting there playing Mass Effect, excited to see your character's love interest's face, and then you see a tweaked photo of Miss England 2005.

BioWare dropped the ball on that one. I know we all agree, and it's been said a million times, but I'm saying it again.

It's not an immersion break, it's fridge logic. Because how many of us were looking at anything other than the face? The face which was very well done, I'll have you know.

And then some idiot goes and points out the hand to you. And you then cannot unsee.

My immersion was more broken by Shepard nearly dying at the beginning of the second game.
Master Immunity + some of the best armour in the game =/= hardsuit punctures from impacts of Normandy wreckage. Seriously, not even SoverSaren could harm my Shepard.

Master immunity doesn't last the hours it would take for atmospheric entry. Also, 1650*C might be a bit more than the standard suit of body armor can handle. Atmosphere > you.

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18 Brains wrote...

Seems a lot of good fan-fics are coming out.  Just found this one a few days ago, and I like what the author's doing.

Family Doesn't End With Blood

Starts at the end of ME 1, a retelling of ME 2 and focuses on Shepard and Tali's relationship.  Really good recent chapter!


I read the most recent chapter, and that's a really fun fanfic, but the title...the hell does it mean?