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[exelsis]

Tom80 wrote...

Can we cut the "photo" topic short ?

Longest topic wev'e had in a couple days. Why end it?

I don't hate the woman who was used as a model. I don't hate that bioware shopped a pic. I don't hate that tali looks very human. I hate bioware doing a lazy job of all these things, making her perfectly human, putting her in some sort of wool sweater, and shipping it off to us like they thought it would work.

What the hell happened, bioware?

Modifié par exelsis, 04 septembre 2012 - 12:26 .

[SilverEchidna]

I can answer that question. You see, it was rEApers.

[exelsis]

SilverEchidna wrote...

I can answer that question. You see, it was rEApers.

rEApers, I hate those guys.

[Tairis Deamhan]

The issue was simply exacerbated by the fact that the photoshop they used was so poorly done as to suggest it was completely by one of the designers children in Paint Shop Pro from the 90s after a 20 minute tutorial. The model herself is gorgeous, but that can't save a bad photoshop job.

[Edolix]

Tairis Deamhan wrote...

The issue was simply exacerbated by the fact that the photoshop they used was so poorly done as to suggest it was completely by one of the designers children in Paint Shop Pro from the 90s after a 20 minute tutorial. The model herself is gorgeous, but that can't save a bad photoshop job.

Pretty much my problem with the photo as well. I like the concept for her face, but execution of it was terrible. Tali deserves far better treatment then that.

[ABN Tali Fan]

Edolix wrote...

Tairis Deamhan wrote...

The issue was simply exacerbated by the fact that the photoshop they used was so poorly done as to suggest it was completely by one of the designers children in Paint Shop Pro from the 90s after a 20 minute tutorial. The model herself is gorgeous, but that can't save a bad photoshop job.

Pretty much my problem with the photo as well. I like the concept for her face, but execution of it was terrible. Tali deserves far better treatment then that.

Agreed, I have no issue with the model they chose for Tali but honestly if they were going to be that lazy with the photoshop they shouldn't have bothered at all. 

[SilverEchidna]

It's the same argument I have. I have no problem with the face they used for, but then there are two accounts of laziness: the poor Photoshopping they did on it, and I would figure that with a face they would be able to make a helmet-less model for Tali. Alas, we have that "artistic integrity" claim, which really needs to be dismissed.

[JesseLee202]

exelsis wrote...

 I hate bioware doing a lazy job of all these things, making her perfectly human, putting her in some sort of wool sweater, and shipping it off to us like they thought it would work.

What the hell happened, bioware?

It has been known that Quarians look just like humans, and the photoshop is what makes her look less human. Could BioWare have done a better job? Yes. Did people overreact? Yes. 

This issue was, and still is being blown way out of proportion.

On a side note, you keep throwing up that pic, may I ask why?

[chasemme]

JesseLee202 wrote...

exelsis wrote...

 I hate bioware doing a lazy job of all these things, making her perfectly human, putting her in some sort of wool sweater, and shipping it off to us like they thought it would work.

What the hell happened, bioware?

It has been known that Quarians look just like humans, and the photoshop is what makes her look less human. Could BioWare have done a better job? Yes. Did people overreact? Yes. 

This issue was, and still is being blown way out of proportion.

On a side note, you keep throwing up that pic, may I ask why?

I was wondering the same thing. (we're talking about the Kerrigan one, yeah?) Keep Starcraft out of my Mass Effect, unless you lookin for a challenge, boi!

To respond to yours, Jesse, it didn't bother me at all until my sister wanted to see Tali's face, wiki'd it, and told me it was a stock photo. It wasn't the image, just the situation surrounding it, they never HAD to show me the face, so it's pretty annoying that they forced her face into the game without putting any real effort into it.

A 5-minute photoshop job just doesn't show the pride in their work that went into the character itself (especially given that I liked the mini-scene of picking up the picture)

[Buddy McFlurry]

Does anyone like this? I love it. Much better than the photo in the game.

[chasemme]

Honestly there are a lot of great Tali fan pictures.

Hell, I even like starfish Tali.

[JesseLee202]

Buddy McFlurry wrote...

Does anyone like this? I love it. Much better than the photo in the game.

I like both. But slightly lean more towards the canon picture.

Only because the model better suits Tali. IMO.

[Buddy McFlurry]

JesseLee202 wrote...

I like both. But slightly lean more towards the canon picture.

Only because the model better suits Tali. IMO.

I also like both, but I prefer this picture. This is the kind of face, I always imagine when I hear Tali's voice.
The original picture is good, but they didn't put enough work in it. And that's what I don't like.

[chasemme]

Buddy McFlurry wrote...

JesseLee202 wrote...

I like both. But slightly lean more towards the canon picture.

Only because the model better suits Tali. IMO.

I also like both, but I prefer this picture. This is the kind of face, I always imagine when I hear Tali's voice.
The original picture is good, but they didn't put enough work in it. And that's what I don't like.

I agree with you. Really this is a matter of opinion. I think this picture suits her better.

[Ice Cold J]

amxstyle wrote...

Yes it was a huge cliff hanger, but the bigger they are, the more you want to find out what happens next!

Doh...totp:

HAWTTT!!!

[JesseLee202]

Buddy McFlurry wrote...

JesseLee202 wrote...

I like both. But slightly lean more towards the canon picture.

Only because the model better suits Tali. IMO.

I also like both, but I prefer this picture. This is the kind of face, I always imagine when I hear Tali's voice.
The original picture is good, but they didn't put enough work in it. And that's what I don't like.

Yeah I understand. The main reason I like the other pic, is because that it is Tali's canon appearance. There is no changing it. If you don't like the photoshop job, fix it and do a better job. But don't go changing the model, she is not the problem.

Ohh yeah, that picture is a heck of a lot better than what exelsis keeps putting up though... 

[Edolix]

^^ Agreed. Exelsis' tastes are a little, ah, odd =3

In regards to the photo, I've been thinking that perhaps it was a good thing that Tali's face wasn't rendered into the game engine. I know that we wish it had been, and that they should have put more effort into it...but look at it this way.

Miranda's face is modelled on her voice actress, Yvonne Stravoski, who just happens to look rather stunning. Yet Miranda herself? It could have been worse, but...well, it could have been a lot better. I can't put my finger on it, but she looks a little...uncanny. She does look a little better in ME3, but still. I would hardly describe her as beautiful.

Then there's Diana Allers, and we all know how much of a botched job that turned out. PSP licker or not, Chobot IS rather pretty, yet Allers looks like she's been melted by a wax candle. I really don't understand what went wrong there. Scanner malfunction? Game engine limitations? I don't know.

Then again, Samara (who I believe was based on a real woman) looks fantastic, as does (and please don't shoot me) Liara. Mmph, I don't know. I still want to see Tali's face rendered into the game, but I somewhat dread to think what BioWare would do to her.

Modifié par Edolix, 04 septembre 2012 - 11:30 .

[BrysonC]

Edolix wrote...
 I don't know. I still want to see Tali's face rendered into the game, but I somewhat dread to think what BioWare would do to her.

I think they've done quite enough.

[Bahoogasmif]

^ no, thats the problem, they havent done anything. any 2 year old can point at a photo and say "thats pretty, we'll use that one!" then make squiggly lines on it.

[BrysonC]

Bahoogasmif wrote...

^ no, thats the problem, they havent done anything. any 2 year old can point at a photo and say "thats pretty, we'll use that one!" then make squiggly lines on it.

Which is why I'm afraid they would just mess it up even worse if they ever tried to 'fix' it, lol. The laziness was astounding for a game studio with a multimillion dollar budget.

[Killsteven]

 Yeah it might be best for bioware to stand aside and let us takeover on this whole Tali's face thing before they hurt themselves again (they seem to be really good at that nowadays). That being said to hell with bioware's lazy pic, this is my canon Tali now.

[Grand Champion]

Why do people always make Tali purple? I mean, the picture above looks astounding but every time I see a purple Tali it reminds me of a night elf from WoW.

[iSpaz]

Mmm this topic again. Yup the face they used is great the way it was presented was not blah blah blah...

Personally I was hoping she turned out more similar to a draenei...Minus all the weird bits wouldn't even mind the horns tho heh.

[exelsis]

Wertom Three wrote...

Why do people always make Tali purple? I mean, the picture above looks astounding but every time I see a purple Tali it reminds me of a night elf from WoW.

Her suit is partly purple, her visor is purple, her voice could be construed as purple. Makes sense that people often turn that into she IS purple. Have something associated long enough, and the distinction simply dissapears.

And because i've got the wierd headcanon, obligatory 'wierd' tali faces.

[TheWerdna]

Just got done spending 3 hours writing a 2k word long fight scene for my fic that will be in the chapter after the next one. Should be fun