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Killsteven

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18 Brains wrote...

Buddy McFlurry wrote...

I miss the shutters and the garbage disposal at Zaeed's room.


I miss being able to pour a drink in the lounge, and then be able to drink it.  Missed opportunity for a cutscene with Tali right there.Image IPB

I also miss having Zaeed, Grunt, Jack, Kasumi, Miranda, and Gardner (the cook/plumber) on board as well.  All the "friendly faces" that used to be on the Normandy, and you can't recruit them back.Image IPB

We still have the old team, of course, but after the second game it just doesn't feel like it had the same spirit.  At least Tali's dialogue (along with the rest of the crew's) is awesome.

 
Yeah, you're right. (sigh) Like you said good times. Good, long gone because bioware is lame, times.

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I think it's because ME2 was a lot more laid-back than 1 and 3. I mean with the latter two, there was a sense of urgency. For 1, it was "Gotta stop Saren before he brings in the Reaper apocalypse!" In 3 it was "Reapers are here! KILL ALL THE THINGS!"

In 2, I felt it was almost like another day at the office for the life of a Spectre. You get this assignment only a Spectre would be able to do, and you clean house with a lot of mercs throughout the time as well. Sure you hear about other Collector attacks, but all you run across is the same ship throughout the entire storyline, and the only colonies you go to that are or were hit are Freedom's Progress and Horizon, and the other colonies are not hit right after another one is. This is also the main reason I like 2 over the others: because to me there is no real sense of urgency, and that's why I'm sure Bioware added those little gimmicks like taking out the trash and pouring yourself some booze.

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SilverEchidna wrote...

I think it's because ME2 was a lot more laid-back than 1 and 3. I mean with the latter two, there was a sense of urgency. For 1, it was "Gotta stop Saren before he brings in the Reaper apocalypse!" In 3 it was "Reapers are here! KILL ALL THE THINGS!"

In 2, I felt it was almost like another day at the office for the life of a Spectre. You get this assignment only a Spectre would be able to do, and you clean house with a lot of mercs throughout the time as well. Sure you hear about other Collector attacks, but all you run across is the same ship throughout the entire storyline, and the only colonies you go to that are or were hit are Freedom's Progress and Horizon, and the other colonies are not hit right after another one is. This is also the main reason I like 2 over the others: because to me there is no real sense of urgency, and that's why I'm sure Bioware added those little gimmicks like taking out the trash and pouring yourself some booze.


Still would have been nice though. Sometimes you have to overlook things like that for the sake of fun ya know.;)

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Ok, so I finished reading Wings of Fire today and I must say, it was really great. Lots of nice moments. You did a good job Bahoogasmif. Thank you.

Now I think I'm going to read Family Doesn't End With Blood, because it already has 20 chapters. After that I want to read another fanfic with fewer chapters and so on...

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Well, I'm back after a week absense - what'd I miss? I see the thread has only moved 10 or so pages :)
Edit: BrysonC, how far are you away from chapter 10 of "You Came Back to Me"? I need my fix, man! :D

Modifié par Kurt-Niisan2, 15 septembre 2012 - 09:28 .


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^Not sure about BrysonC, but I'm hoping to have my second chapter up sometime today or tomorrow. Already written, just being beta'd for mistakes.

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I don't usually read Fanfics but I love what BrysonC did with the end and, to me, it's my Shepard's Canon ending. I'll get around to other Fics one at a time, otherwise I'll get them all muddled up in my head. I respect everyone here who is writing them though, because you've all put into action a (hopefully) plausable in which to end your Shepard's journey.

Just to move off on a tangent now, how do people here feel about the Indoctrination Theory? I've known about it since it was first discussed 4 or 5 months ago but I'm spending a slow day at work today watching the 3 Youtube Documentaries on it (at an hour and a half each!) and there are certainly a few things that have piqued my interest.

Do you honestly think BioWare delved this deeply into the nuances of audio placement and subtle hints, or do you think fans are just clutching at straws? Thoughts?

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It sounded good written down. I mean, it certainly makes sense considering how much time Shepard has spent near Reaper objects (Rho, the derelict Reaper), but for me... it was out there, but I knew it wasn't Bioware's intention to make Shepard indoctrinated. Also, games that end up being dreams, or that never really happened, are the biggest kinds of let downs for me (never played Sonic '06, but that is a huge example of what I mean). I want the have something to look forward to at the end of my journey, and finding out that it never actually happened? Not worth my time.

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Kurt-Niisan2 wrote...

Do you honestly think BioWare delved this deeply into the nuances of audio placement and subtle hints, or do you think fans are just clutching at straws? Thoughts?


It would be interesting if the IT would be true but Bioware denied it.
It would also be a giant cliffhanger. I don't think many people would like that. :unsure:

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I've never been a fan of the IT tbh. I had to stop using TIM eyes on my Shep cuz of that...>_>;;

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I really don't buy into the whole IT thing. I would rather have the current endings then find out the whole thing is some kind of dream. Plus my Shepard lived and made it back to Tali.

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Kurt-Niisan2 wrote...

Well, I'm back after a week absense - what'd I miss? I see the thread has only moved 10 or so pages :)
Edit: BrysonC, how far are you away from chapter 10 of "You Came Back to Me"? I need my fix, man! :D


Chapter 10 is slated for release tonight (Sept 15). =]

TOTP:

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Wurstinator wrote...
It would be interesting if the IT would be true but Bioware denied it.
It would also be a giant cliffhanger. I don't think many people would like that. :unsure:

Yeah but I doubt that BioWare would be the first video game company to lie about what's happening with their games, since they've still got DLC to sell. Maybe I'm just holding out with a little bit of hope.

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BrysonC wrote...
Chapter 10 is slated for release tonight (Sept 15). =]

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Also, you are top of the page - Tali image plz! :D

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Almost done with the very detailed and large fan art I have been working on. Should be done by tonight finally! May need to hold off for a little bit before releasing it here. (Tali is in it)

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amxstyle wrote...

Almost done with the very detailed and large fan art I have been working on. Should be done by tonight finally! May need to hold off for a little bit before releasing it here. (Tali is in it)

Do it NAO!

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Kurt-Niisan2 wrote...

I don't usually read Fanfics but I love what BrysonC did with the end and, to me, it's my Shepard's Canon ending. I'll get around to other Fics one at a time, otherwise I'll get them all muddled up in my head. I respect everyone here who is writing them though, because you've all put into action a (hopefully) plausable in which to end your Shepard's journey.

Just to move off on a tangent now, how do people here feel about the Indoctrination Theory? I've known about it since it was first discussed 4 or 5 months ago but I'm spending a slow day at work today watching the 3 Youtube Documentaries on it (at an hour and a half each!) and there are certainly a few things that have piqued my interest.

Do you honestly think BioWare delved this deeply into the nuances of audio placement and subtle hints, or do you think fans are just clutching at straws? Thoughts?


IT also struck me as people just grasping at straws and trying to find something good in the awful endings.

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exelsis wrote...

amxstyle wrote...

Almost done with the very detailed and large fan art I have been working on. Should be done by tonight finally! May need to hold off for a little bit before releasing it here. (Tali is in it)

Do it NAO!


Just finished. But can't! Need to wait for final approval from the person it was made for. I am going to go have a beer or three now.

Modifié par amxstyle, 16 septembre 2012 - 12:08 .


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Banul wrote...

Kurt-Niisan2 wrote...

I don't usually read Fanfics but I love what BrysonC did with the end and, to me, it's my Shepard's Canon ending. I'll get around to other Fics one at a time, otherwise I'll get them all muddled up in my head. I respect everyone here who is writing them though, because you've all put into action a (hopefully) plausable in which to end your Shepard's journey.

Just to move off on a tangent now, how do people here feel about the Indoctrination Theory? I've known about it since it was first discussed 4 or 5 months ago but I'm spending a slow day at work today watching the 3 Youtube Documentaries on it (at an hour and a half each!) and there are certainly a few things that have piqued my interest.

Do you honestly think BioWare delved this deeply into the nuances of audio placement and subtle hints, or do you think fans are just clutching at straws? Thoughts?


IT also struck me as people just grasping at straws and trying to find something good in the awful endings.


Agreed. I'm not going to lie and say that I never believed in the Indoctrination Theory. Indeed, when I first finished ME3 I was all over the IT like a tramp on chips. Desperation can do amazing things to people, and when I first heard about the IT I so desperately wanted to believe in it. I mean, those absolutely horrible, confusing endings couldn't possibly have been intentional. Right?

Now however, 6 months on from the dark, depressing days of March? I find IT completely implausable, laughable even. After all the picking and breaking apart of ME3, it's pretty clear that the ending was a product of lazyness and poor writing and certainly NOT some rediculous master-plan concieved by BioWare. The fact that some people still believe in it after all this time makes me shake my head with disbelief. Take a look in the official IT thread, the amount of straw-clutching is unreal.

But enough of that, back to Tali.

Modifié par Edolix, 16 septembre 2012 - 12:23 .


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That dreadful 'You Came Back to Me' fic just got updated with chapter 10. Go and flame the author. Deserves it for polluting our internet.

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BrysonC wrote...

That dreadful 'You Came Back to Me' fic just got updated with chapter 10. Go and flame the author. Deserves it for polluting our internet.


Huh? Why is it bad?

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Ticonderoga117 wrote...

BrysonC wrote...
That dreadful 'You Came Back to Me' fic just got updated with chapter 10. Go and flame the author. Deserves it for polluting our internet.

Huh? Why is it bad?

He is self-deprecating himself. He is the author of said fanfic.

Modifié par exelsis, 16 septembre 2012 - 02:12 .


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I don't like IT because IT wasn't planned by BioWare, it is the result of bad writing, nothing more. I also lost respect for CleverNoob after his last documentary...

If the EC was in the game to begin with IT would not have caught on as much as it did.

... so yeah, Tali.

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BrysonC wrote...

That dreadful 'You Came Back to Me' fic just got updated with chapter 10. Go and flame the author. Deserves it for polluting our internet.


Good chapter again! Enjoyed reading it after eating dinner. :)

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exelsis wrote...
He is self-deprecating himself. He is the author of said fanfic.


*Facepalm*
Ah. Apparently I'm blind. Gotcha. :pinched: