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Terrorize69 wrote...

Well, I doubt it will be a sequel as humans have only been around for 30years and that time has been covered alot in extended media. I doubt they'd go further back and skip humans.

So will be one of 2 things, takes place during ME1-3, or after 3.

If its during ME then it will feel pointless as its Shepard that is shaping the galaxy in that time, a new char will be insignificant.

So it will likely be after, which means they have to pick a ending as canon. Which would be destroy as the other 2 have the reapers as guard dogs for the rest of tome.

This will ****** people off who picked other endings and the only way BW can work that is if they use the same cast and Shepard again. So chances are more Tali. Still totally worth it.


I doubt it. The characters fom the original ME trilogy will probably just be cameos. They need to spice up the story with new characters. I don't gree with this, but it seems like what they would do. Most likely a prequel where you set the stage for Shepard. Tht's how most trilogies seem to extend their lifetime, with prequels. So... No Tali. :crying:
This would also avoid the issue about choosing a canon ending. 

I think that they are going to do the prequel and remove a lot of choice so that you automatically set up your Shepard's story in ME1. This follows the trend in Bioware of having no real choices (DA2[not that it was too bad], ME3). 

Perhaps the game will have Shepard return somehow in a near future time. I don't know... It seems like it has to be a different story, one without the Reapers. This ME story arc is dead unless heavily prequeled which means no choice which makes sense for the new BW trend.
A game about the first cycle and construction of the Reapers seems like it  could work.


And with Casey leading the development, we can't trust a thing that is said about the game prerelease.



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Unveiling the fanart I had finished that I mentioned as it debutted with the new chapter of Razor's Edge tonight. Beware it is very large! (actual poster size)

http://animemagix.de...t.com/#/d5fased 

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^Hot damn! That is freaking awesome. Great job!

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The new Chapter of Razor's Edge was awesome. Seems like this chapter was the turning point for Shepard, and now will begin to return to being the Shepard we know he can be. (Seriously, those of you who have stopped reading due to how depressing it is, the last two chapters have begun to take a turn for a more hopeful side... atleast the parts regarding Shepard.)

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BrysonC wrote...

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For Tali to be in the game? Might be too wishful thinking. As much as I love Tali, I'm not sure how she might be able to fit in a new Mass Effect game, particularly an aftermath of ME 3. Can't say I'd be against it, though.


Again, BioWare has worked themselves into a corner here, because including any of the characters we've come to know and love would be extremely tricky. Including Tali without Shepard involved might bother people if they've romanced her - same applies to any other potential LI.

They're going to need a completely clean slate. Considering the only 'new' character of any real interest in ME3 was Javik, I'm wary of BioWare's continued ability to create captivating new characters.


I don't know about a cameo appearance from anyone we know considering how 3 ended with all the gates being destroyed. Seeing admiral Tali for a mission only works if the ME Next allows the players to pick their own species and then if BW places the story within their life span. I don't think Quarins live to be 1000 years old.


Also time wise it doesn't make sense for the galaxy to have been able to rebuild their gates in only say 50 years considering how trashed they were after the reaeprs. Unless BW makes it dependant on your ME3 ending choice for instance:

I choose destroy in ME3 effect on ME4's opening is after I pick my (species and customize it galore) would look like this dependant on my species:

Asari: It's taken forever nearly 1000 yrs for us to get back on our feet and finally get back into space yet we can't use our relay it's going to take another 1000 to fix it yet somehow our main character lost in space while doing something finds a dormet relay using data from the old archives they turn it on and can now access new systems unknown to ME - ME3.

Humans: with all the knowledge of the citidel and the keepers we've rebuilt quicly in only 90 years we've fixed the citidel and the relay we can go to accessible relays like the Quarians and can open new gates to new civilizations.

Quarians: With the demize of the geth our progress was slowed but considering we had 300 years of mechanical training under our belts we pulled through we fixed our relay fast in only 70 years. We ironically now have the best ships in all the galaxy and we've opened up many gates and are exited to explore the new glaxies and create a name for the Quarian people.

Turians: The war took it's toll and so did the rebuild once the strongest millitary in the galaxy we're a shadow of our former selves. We couldn't rebuild the relay to our solar system as all our rescources were used for the home effort now that we're comming back into a state of normalicy we've sent engeneers to try and repair the gate but it will take several life times to achive. Your character however finds a dormet undamaged relay that wasn't on pre reaper war so no destruct signal was recived you activate it and prepare to go into the unknown galaxy beyound.

If you got the best destroy ending you will get a cameo by YOUR SHEPARD they're older either because BW set it further into the future or because he is a cyborg and the blast, laser, and general run in with star child has caused shep to age fast if your shep will retain hints of their custom hair color, scars (if ren they'll glow if para they'll be normal scars due to the blast) Shep would be blind (they took a blast to the face!) Your shepard will apear on which ever homeworld they have an LI from so if you picked Tali you'll find shep in clean room on Rannoch, Garrus you'll find her in a bunker on Palvin (radiation kill yo!), Liara you'll find them in a quet place, ect They still are with their LI and if you come back to them a second time you'll find them in a moment with the LI.

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If you pick control and died as a paragon shep:

All the gates are fixed and you can not only travel between world from ME - ME3 but you start opening up new gates fo go to uncharted galaxies after all you've got the reapers watching your home galaxy what's going to try and come thorugh with that force at the ready? 

In this scenerio you can get cameos or even crewmembers from the old squad member who servived. They maybe alittle or alot older depending on how far in the future BW places the new game:

Cameos:

Earth: Jacob, Mirada, Chips, Javik

Rannoch: Tali, Xen, Rann, Qwib Qwib

Asari: Liara, Athena, Sniper girl, Hold the bridge girl, Feros girl

Palvin: Turian General, Noveria Turian, Garrus


Recruits: This would depend on if they're young or older

young or old: Garrus, Sniper Asari girl, Feros girl

young: Miranda, Tali, Chips, Hold the bridge Asari, Liara (if you can convince her)

If you picked control but died as a renagade:

The reapers did rebuild the galaxy but they're more like your oppressors then your allies they're stricter then the prothean empire was in its last days and opening up new gates is a crime punishable by huskification in the Sactuary type of way but slower.

Regaurdless of your character you aren't one of the frightened, cow towing masses you want out of this and are willing to take the risk you track down a dorment mass relay and with the illegal infomation you got from the SB you open the relay into the new galaxy beyound hoping its reaper free.

Here you can convince more past allies to join you but again its dependant on if they're young or old:

young or old: you can convince Garrus, Javik, Jack, Tali, Chips, Feros girl, Hold the bridge girl

young: you can convince Miranda, Jacob, Vega, Sniper asari, Athena, Rann


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If you choose combine:

Regaurdless of species the gates are rebuilt everyone has fast ships yet you all lack epathy for others the galaxy feels like it is above any other galaxies that may exist your mission is to open the new relays and show those inferior galaxies you are their new gods thorugh any means nessisary.

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The above is the only way I see how we can still see, meet, recruit Shep's friends and allies and make it make sense.

But BW has proven with 3 that they don't care about such things so they'll probably do a new ME were it's 2000 years in the future everyone we ever knew in sheps time is dead so new character can meet, team up with, and love Turian, Quarian, Robotic, Krogan, Asari, beefy human, fashion human, annoying human, attatude human, look alikes who all have similar personalites, skill sets, and views as our last squad mates. Or in the case of Wrex and Vega they're interchanable tanks you'll know within the first few looks and conversations with the new squadie that Batarian X is a Garrus replacement, Roli is a Tali replacement, new species Y is Liara replacement.

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TheWerdna wrote...

The new Chapter of Razor's Edge was awesome. Seems like this chapter was the turning point for Shepard, and now will begin to return to being the Shepard we know he can be. (Seriously, those of you who have stopped reading due to how depressing it is, the last two chapters have begun to take a turn for a more hopeful side... atleast the parts regarding Shepard.)


I approve.  Hopefully we'll get more of this soon enough:

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SO does anyone have a photo of Tali jumping out of a cake. My birthday yesterday was rather boring and it would be nice to see.

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^ Well, can't photoshop or find Tali in a cake, but here's this:

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So much chocolate and carmel. I just got diabetes from a picture...

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So a random thought just occured to me. If Tali has been in her suit since she was kid and has barely left it. Would that mean she has hairy armpits since she's never had a chance to shave them?

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l7986 wrote...

So a random thought just occured to me. If Tali has been in her suit since she was kid and has barely left it. Would that mean she has hairy armpits since she's never had a chance to shave them?



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Quarians live for up to 150years, tali only 23? The mass relays are repaired in under 20years. Its very possible to see her post me3.

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Terrorize69 wrote...

Quarians live for up to 150years, tali only 23? The mass relays are repaired in under 20years. Its very possible to see her post me3.


Maybe, ....... if we really see a post ME 3 game.....

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Terrorize69 wrote...

Quarians live for up to 150years, tali only 23? The mass relays are repaired in under 20years. Its very possible to see her post me3.



Generations of living aboard sterile ship environments has weakened the quarian immune system.


WHUT.

2, at a push 3, generations has crippled their lifestyle? They must live shorter life spans because 300 years since the morning war surely isnt enough generations to do that kind of damage.


Maybe i missed something, but thats either bad maths or a continuity error.

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Hey you, yea you and your fancy logic... we dont like yer kind round here.:D

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DirtySHISN0 wrote...

Terrorize69 wrote...

Quarians live for up to 150years, tali only 23? The mass relays are repaired in under 20years. Its very possible to see her post me3.



Generations of living aboard sterile ship environments has weakened the quarian immune system.


WHUT.

2, at a push 3, generations has crippled their lifestyle? They must live shorter life spans because 300 years since the morning war surely isnt enough generations to do that kind of damage.


Maybe i missed something, but thats either bad maths or a continuity error.

It's BW, ofcourse it will be continuity errors lol.

But its stated that Quarians live as long as Humans, and Humans live up to 150years now accourding to ME lore lol.

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Terrorize69 wrote...

DirtySHISN0 wrote...

Terrorize69 wrote...

Quarians live for up to 150years, tali only 23? The mass relays are repaired in under 20years. Its very possible to see her post me3.



Generations of living aboard sterile ship environments has weakened the quarian immune system.


WHUT.

2, at a push 3, generations has crippled their lifestyle? They must live shorter life spans because 300 years since the morning war surely isnt enough generations to do that kind of damage.


Maybe i missed something, but thats either bad maths or a continuity error.

It's BW, ofcourse it will be continuity errors lol.

But its stated that Quarians live as long as Humans, and Humans live up to 150years now accourding to ME lore lol.

You misunderstand how the immune system works. They did not lose their immune systems through genetic drift due to zero selection pressure for the stronger alleles. They still have the immune systems that they had on the homeworld 300 years prior, The problem is twofold:

1: Quarian immune systems function on a different premise than human immune systems. While a human's body would attempt to burn, starve, eat, and excrete foreign microorganisms, a quarian's immune system would(begin speculation due to lack of information) likely only identify the intruder and chemically isolate it, which is the allergic response. Unlike human immune systems, which adapt upwards in response to a known contaigion, quarian immune systems adapt downwards, causing a smaller and smaller response with each exposure. They also likely have a very slow but extremely specific normal immune response, if the rare virulent microorganism managed to infect an individual, but it would only be activated if cellular damage was caused. (/speculation) Because there are very few pathogenic microbes on rannoch.

2. 'use it or lose it' applies to the immune system. If you put a human infant in a glass bubble and somehow prevent ANY microorganisms from getting in, they would basically have AIDS after a few years. If that bubble broke during flu season, that's going to be one really sick baby. Also applies to quarians. If the hypothetical special section of their immune system is so weakened because it has NEVER(ever, ever, ever) been used, it won't do it's job well.

So yeah. The quarians having weaker immune systems now than 300 years ago has nothing to do directly with evolution.

Also, a generation is not the average lifespan of the subjects, but the average age at which offspring are produced. There could easily be 10-15 generations of quarians from the morning war until ME.

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exelsis wrote...

Terrorize69 wrote...

DirtySHISN0 wrote...

Terrorize69 wrote...

Quarians live for up to 150years, tali only 23? The mass relays are repaired in under 20years. Its very possible to see her post me3.



Generations of living aboard sterile ship environments has weakened the quarian immune system.


WHUT.

2, at a push 3, generations has crippled their lifestyle? They must live shorter life spans because 300 years since the morning war surely isnt enough generations to do that kind of damage.


Maybe i missed something, but thats either bad maths or a continuity error.

It's BW, ofcourse it will be continuity errors lol.

But its stated that Quarians live as long as Humans, and Humans live up to 150years now accourding to ME lore lol.

You misunderstand how the immune system works. They did not lose their immune systems through genetic drift due to zero selection pressure for the stronger alleles. They still have the immune systems that they had on the homeworld 300 years prior, The problem is twofold:

1: Quarian immune systems function on a different premise than human immune systems. While a human's body would attempt to burn, starve, eat, and excrete foreign microorganisms, a quarian's immune system would(begin speculation due to lack of information) likely only identify the intruder and chemically isolate it, which is the allergic response. Unlike human immune systems, which adapt upwards in response to a known contaigion, quarian immune systems adapt downwards, causing a smaller and smaller response with each exposure. They also likely have a very slow but extremely specific normal immune response, if the rare virulent microorganism managed to infect an individual, but it would only be activated if cellular damage was caused. (/speculation) Because there are very few pathogenic microbes on rannoch.

2. 'use it or lose it' applies to the immune system. If you put a human infant in a glass bubble and somehow prevent ANY microorganisms from getting in, they would basically have AIDS after a few years. If that bubble broke during flu season, that's going to be one really sick baby. Also applies to quarians. If the hypothetical special section of their immune system is so weakened because it has NEVER(ever, ever, ever) been used, it won't do it's job well.

So yeah. The quarians having weaker immune systems now than 300 years ago has nothing to do directly with evolution.

Also, a generation is not the average lifespan of the subjects, but the average age at which offspring are produced. There could easily be 10-15 generations of quarians from the morning war until ME.

Quoting wrong person :P

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Was distracted by how sexy tali is. Where did she get those black panties anyway?

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A lingerie store? I didn't think underwear was exactly a rare commodity. ;)

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It probably would be for quarians. I would imagine any and all cloth they had went towards suit decorations and those curtains/banners they hang in their living quarters. (strictly speaking from a fleet only perspective)

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So.. quarians go commando?
Interesting..

I'm also now imagining that their homes are filled with curtains made out of underwear.
Crazy suit rats.

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Tali stole femsheps.

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GT Zazzerka wrote...

A lingerie store? I didn't think underwear was exactly a rare commodity. ;)

Tali walks into fancy high-class lingerie store:
asari behind counter: "hey, suit rat, how did you get past the guard? Get your thieving fingers out of here!"
tali: "You asari are all racist!" storms off.
krogan guard walks in: "you're an idiot. I'm getting out of here before I get shot"
15 minutes later
Shepard: "I am exercising my authority as a council spectre to requisition ALL OF THIS MERCHANDISE for a mission critical to galactic peace."
asari starts screaming gibberish as the crew starts carting off hundreds of pieces of naughty underwear back to the normandy. gets punched in the face by tali, reporter style.

And then, everyone had all the lingerie they ever wanted.

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'Priority: Victoria's Secret' coming this October.