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[darthrevaninlight]

18 Brains wrote...
REVAN!   You're back! 

Tali is awesome, and deserves our praise!

Also, have you or Ryuji written anything recently?  It seems this thread's hit the jackpot for writer's of Tali-Fanfiction.

Wai Hello thar brains  AND YES I AM AND YES SHE DOES!!! :lol:

And no, Ryuji nor I havent. Though we have been tossing quite a few ideas around WRITERS!!!!? AWESOME!  Tali fans are true artists, all around.

Here's a quick writing bit, for the fun of it:

Three fingers twisted their way into five. Clenching tight against the human, the purple-clad quarian let out a long breath.

"Hey..." Shepard said softly. "Relax..."
"How can I?" She whispered.

His hand squeezed hers, and he craned his neck to look at her.
Tali's face was half-obscured in shadow, but he could clearly make out her expression. Eyebrows knit deeply in intense worry, lips drawn in grim apprehension, eyes brimmed with frustrated tears. 
His heart was moved profoundly at the sight. His whole body turned and his hand snaked across the mattress to caress her face. She sighed into the touch, and met his eyes.

"I'll be fine." Shepard said this with unwavering resolution. "We both will. We will take down the reapers. Destroy them, defeat them, send them with their tails between their legs, whining all the way back into dark space." The corners of her mouth moved slowly upward. "And when we win, when we beat those monsters... Can you guess where we'll be heading first?"
She giggled. "Home?"
He grinned fiercely. "To Rannoch. I'm building you that house."
"And it will be a beach-side property, no two ways about it."



thank you, thank you lol
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Modifié par darthrevaninlight, 25 septembre 2012 - 03:04 .

[JesseLee202]

wow, that's some good stuff...

[ABN Tali Fan]

Bryson and Mr.Blazen just finished both of your latest chapters and I have to say great stuff. You guys give me motivation to start my own Tali fic.

[Mr.BlazenGlazen]

ABN Tali Fan wrote...

Bryson and Mr.Blazen just finished both of your latest chapters and I have to say great stuff. You guys give me motivation to start my own Tali fic.

Thank ya kind sir. And you should. 

What did you all think about that giant monologue that I wrote in that chapter? I got a super massive migraine after I was done writing that. 

[ABN Tali Fan]

Mr.BlazenGlazen wrote...

ABN Tali Fan wrote...

Bryson and Mr.Blazen just finished both of your latest chapters and I have to say great stuff. You guys give me motivation to start my own Tali fic.

Thank ya kind sir. And you should. 

What did you all think about that giant monologue that I wrote in that chapter? I got a super massive migraine after I was done writing that. 

I thought the monologue was well done. Honestly I can't wait for the final showdown between Shepard and Calab. Tali deserves her happily ever after dang it! As for my future fic no promises as to when it will be ready. Just working on the outline. All I know for sure is it will be Shepard Tali and something involving Dinos.

[ElectronicPostingInterface]

I did the GX12 quest without thinking about it for Engineer Adams. If I wait until I get Tali, does anything change/add any dialog?

[amxstyle]

PKchu wrote...

I did the GX12 quest without thinking about it for Engineer Adams. If I wait until I get Tali, does anything change/add any dialog?

I did that for my second playthrough long ago....I don't remember anything changing at all.

[ABN Tali Fan]

The thread has been dead lately so here's my attempt to start some discussion. If you were on Rannoch in real life when it came time to choose between the Geth, Quarians, or peace what would you do? Not just "I pick peace because I get a higher EMS score". The Geth have (except for Legion) been your enemy for 3 years leading up to this point. Would you really trust them as an ally? Do you even really think that they are alive? Also keep in mind that you don't know what will happen once to reaper code is uploaded. You have the option to get rid of the Geth once and for all and give Tali her homeworld. So what would you do?

Modifié par ABN Tali Fan, 25 septembre 2012 - 04:32 .

[Grand Champion]

ABN Tali Fan wrote...

The thread has been dead lately so here's my attempt to start some discussion. If you were on Rannoch in real life when it came time to choose between the Geth, Quarians, or peace what would you do? Not just "I pick peace because I get a higher EMS score". The Geth have (except for Legion) been your enemy for 3 years leading up to this point. Would you really trust them as an ally? Do you even really think that they are alive? Also keep in mind that you don't know what will happen once to reaper code is uploaded. You have the option to get rid of the Geth once and for all and give Tali her homeworld. So what would you do?

I would choose peace because the Geth help the Quarians rebuild. But thats just me metagaming. I would choose the Quarians if I didn't know any of the outcomes. I can understand the Geth wanting survival, but joining the enemy is not the way to do it. They were just pulling a Saren with " self preservation is preferable to extinction" . Incase they didn't get the memo, the reason we're fighting the Reapers is survival. I don't trust the Geth. And they aren't alive unless you give them the Reaper code.

Modifié par Wertom Three, 25 septembre 2012 - 05:41 .

[JesseLee202]

ABN Tali Fan wrote...

The thread has been dead lately so here's my attempt to start some discussion. If you were on Rannoch in real life when it came time to choose between the Geth, Quarians, or peace what would you do? Not just "I pick peace because I get a higher EMS score". The Geth have (except for Legion) been your enemy for 3 years leading up to this point. Would you really trust them as an ally? Do you even really think that they are alive? Also keep in mind that you don't know what will happen once to reaper code is uploaded. You have the option to get rid of the Geth once and for all and give Tali her homeworld. So what would you do?

I could write a book about why I think the Geth are just as responsible, if not more, than the Quarians for all of their conflicts.

I would pick the Quarians every... single... time...

Actually, I always pick the Quarians, regardless if peace is possible. I hate the fact that the "paragon" speech, puts all the blame on the Quarians, its something my Shep would never say. 

The Geth also did not need the Reaper code. This is the third time Legion lies (of omission) to you in the course of ME3.

Tali rewards me with a reproductive ritual after the battle too... 

[BrysonC]

JesseLee202 wrote...

I could write a book about why I think the Geth are just as responsible, if not more, than the Quarians for all of their conflicts.

I would pick the Quarians every... single... time...

Actually, I always pick the Quarians, regardless if peace is possible. I hate the fact that the "paragon" speech, puts all the blame on the Quarians, its something my Shep would never say. 

ME3 makes it pretty clear that the geth were victims. Quarians made them as servants, were frightened by how 'alive' the geth were becoming, and instead of trying to understand them and foster coexistance, they tried to kill them off. What option did the geth have other than to defend themselves?

I love the quarians, but they made a mistake.

[Grand Champion]

BrysonC wrote...

JesseLee202 wrote...

I could write a book about why I think the Geth are just as responsible, if not more, than the Quarians for all of their conflicts.

I would pick the Quarians every... single... time...

Actually, I always pick the Quarians, regardless if peace is possible. I hate the fact that the "paragon" speech, puts all the blame on the Quarians, its something my Shep would never say. 

ME3 makes it pretty clear that the geth were victims. Quarians made them as servants, were frightened by how 'alive' the geth were becoming, and instead of trying to understand them and foster coexistance, they tried to kill them off. What option did the geth have other than to defend themselves?

I love the quarians, but they made a mistake.

I guess they forgot to mention the Geth killing 99% of the Quarian population.

TOTP:

Modifié par Wertom Three, 25 septembre 2012 - 06:11 .

[JesseLee202]

BrysonC wrote...

JesseLee202 wrote...

I could write a book about why I think the Geth are just as responsible, if not more, than the Quarians for all of their conflicts.

I would pick the Quarians every... single... time...

Actually, I always pick the Quarians, regardless if peace is possible. I hate the fact that the "paragon" speech, puts all the blame on the Quarians, its something my Shep would never say. 

ME3 makes it pretty clear that the geth were victims. Quarians made them as servants, were frightened by how 'alive' the geth were becoming, and instead of trying to understand them and foster coexistance, they tried to kill them off. What option did the geth have other than to defend themselves?

I'm sure you have heard that the Geth killed over 99% of the Quarian population in the Morning War.

Killing 99% of ANY population =/= self-defense

It may have started as self-defense, but it went above and beyond.

The Geth also stayed on Rannoch when they didn't need to. The entire conflict in ME3 could have been avoided if the Geth went to live in space stations. Legion confirms the Geth have no real use for Rannoch, while the Quarians need Rannoch because of their weak immune systems.

I could go on, but this is a Tali thread... that could go for more Tali talk...

[darthrevaninlight]

It was brought up before, but what do you guys think?
Was talis devotion to her people because she wanted a place to belong? Was that the hidden but true motive of her heart? Or is there another explanation?

[BrysonC]

I wasn't aware of the 99% quarian genocide statistic. Where was that shared?

[JesseLee202]

darthrevaninlight wrote...

It was brought up before, but what do you guys think?
Was talis devotion to her people because she wanted a place to belong? Was that the hidden but true motive of her heart? Or is there another explanation?

I think she did want a place to belong. But I think it has to do with Quarians in general.

Quarians are known to be extremely loyal to each other, and to quote Tali herself, "even when it is difficult.". I guess you could say it's in a Quarian's nature.

[darthrevaninlight]

ALSO, I AGREE WITH JESSE. LEGION DIDN'T LIE, BUT HE CHOSE TO SHOW YOU AN ASKEW PARTIAL TRUTH IN ORDER TO MANIPULATE YOU.

TALI DISAPPROVES OF SUCH DECEPTION

[JesseLee202]

BrysonC wrote...

I wasn't aware of the 99% quarian genocide statistic. Where was that shared?

In the Codex, with a little math. Population prior to Morning War was in the Billions, after the war 17 million remained.

I have a hard time sympathizing with machines that commit genocide like that. 

[BrysonC]

JesseLee202 wrote...

BrysonC wrote...

I wasn't aware of the 99% quarian genocide statistic. Where was that shared?

In the Codex, with a little math. Population prior to Morning War was in the Billions, after the war 17 million remained.

I have a hard time sympathizing with machines that commit genocide like that. 

I overlooked that completely. Bad habit of mine.

You're right, no mistakes the quarians could have made would ever justify getting wiped out like that...but on the other hand, I can't condemn the geth completely, either.

Complicated issue. Lore like that is where ME shines.

[Grand Champion]

BrysonC wrote...

I wasn't aware of the 99% quarian genocide statistic. Where was that shared?

http://masseffect.wi...m/wiki/Geth_War Edit: 

But on a more Tali related note, I think her choice to go with Shepard was not selfish. If anything it is thinking more of her people. Going with Shepard as moral and combative support could save the galaxy. If she stayed with her people the Reapers could have won.

Modifié par Wertom Three, 25 septembre 2012 - 06:39 .

[exelsis]

Wertom Three wrote...

BrysonC wrote...

I wasn't aware of the 99% quarian genocide statistic. Where was that shared?

http://masseffect.wi...m/wiki/Geth_War Edit: 

But on a more Tali related note, I think her choice to go with Shepard was not selfish. If anything it is thinking more of her people. Going with Shepard as moral and combative support could save the galaxy. If she stayed with her people the Reapers could have won.

Moral support, yes. If tali doesn't improve shep's morale well and often, the reapers win. That's why they spend so much time in the captain's quarters together. Dat morale.

[JesseLee202]

darthrevaninlight wrote...

ALSO, I AGREE WITH JESSE. LEGION DIDN'T LIE, BUT HE CHOSE TO SHOW YOU AN ASKEW PARTIAL TRUTH IN ORDER TO MANIPULATE YOU.

TALI DISAPPROVES OF SUCH DECEPTION

Agreed, then Tali and I begin to finish off the Geth. She starts with the knife in the back. Then I take out my gun, and put three rounds into the Geth VI's head.

That's my disney ending. 

[Banul]

The Quarians are definitely at fault, but the Geth arn't really innocent victims either.

[ElectronicPostingInterface]

amxstyle wrote...

PKchu wrote...

I did the GX12 quest without thinking about it for Engineer Adams. If I wait until I get Tali, does anything change/add any dialog?

I did that for my second playthrough long ago....I don't remember anything changing at all.

Thanks, I appreciate the answer.

[Dynaphus]

JesseLee202 wrote...

BrysonC wrote...

I wasn't aware of the 99% quarian genocide statistic. Where was that shared?

In the Codex, with a little math. Population prior to Morning War was in the Billions, after the war 17 million remained.

I have a hard time sympathizing with machines that commit genocide like that. 

A few things should be taken into account. Firstly that a reasonable number of Quarians killed were killed by their own kind. The numbers of those little 'Purges' is never listed but it factors in.
Secondly it's worth considering that the Geth, although becoming sentient to a degree, were still in their infancy and as such knew little about how to react, and alternative responses to attacks upon them. In short, they responded with the one thing being shown to them by their creators - Force. In a sense the Geth were like developing children, they knew nothing other then what was shown to them. As none of them were being shown any 'mercy' (A trait that was certainly not taught to them by those who claim a moral high ground), why should they be expected to know any different? 
Not to mention that it seems the Quarians tried to keep fighting long after the war had appeared to become hopeless. Some might call it 'Brave', but with their civilians still unevacuated, I personally would call it 'idocy', or at least 'pig-headed stubborness'.

Of course, any species that does notice, and appreciate it's mistakes, or at least actively seek to right them deserves a chance to do so.

(Someone needed to play 'devil's advocate')