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[tyler1991991]

holy crap can we please stop with this and back to talking about Tali please

[What?]

tyler1991991 wrote...

holy crap can we please stop with this and back to talking about Tali please

Rather then complain, why not start shifting the thread elsewhere in terms of subject-matter? This little post only adds to the de-railment and argumentative purgatory that the thread has fallen into in recent pages. It adds nothing.

But to get back on track:

Tali's likely one of my favorite characters in the game, though it's not because she's 'kind', 'supportive', 'cute', or what have you. In sci-fi, I've always leaned toward the tech-heads; I love a character who can work engines and hack, or do rudimentary and advanced electronic repairs. I like hearing them prattle on in tech-jargon and explaining the sciences they work in detail; they give you the technological and scientific run-down of the lore, which is where most of my interest, lore-wise, is. That, and Tali sort of reminds me of Case from Neuromancer, minus the drug-addiction and drinking.

Modifié par VictorianTrash, 11 octobre 2011 - 09:34 .

[tyler1991991]

VictorianTrash wrote...

tyler1991991 wrote...

holy crap can we please stop with this and back to talking about Tali please

Rather then complain, why not start shifting the thread elsewhere in terms of subject-matter? This little post only adds to the de-railment.

To get back on track:

Tali's likely one of my favorite characters in the game, though it's not because she's 'kind', 'supportive', 'cute', or what have you. In sci-fi, I've always leaned toward the tech-heads; I love a character who can work engines and hack, or do rudimentary and advanced electronic repairs. I like hearing them prattle on in tech-jargon and explaining the sciences they work in detail; they give you the technological run-down of the lore, which is where most of my interest, lore-wise, is. That, and Tali sort of reminds me of Case from Neuromancer, minus the drug-addiction and drinking.

well was trying to think of subject matter since everything is talked to death and back
i agree techy has always been my lore too in the sci-fi genre too it just. I want to see Tali start to ramble about Tech in ME3 to my Engineer Shep

[Errationatus]

VictorianTrash wrote...

Why is everyone pouncing on Jake like he's the last gazelle in the Savannah? -SNIP- That, and Jake's anger is understandable--he's one poster pitted against two or more, with nobody to help him out. I don't blame him for the outburst.

Thank you for this.  It is much appreciated.  As I said, I'm fairly certain I didn't help anything by getting p!ssed off.  Must be me Scottish blood.  I'm an adult, and as an adult I know better than this, but sometimes... oi!

Personally, I've said all I can say on this particular subject.  This too, as it's said, shall pass.

Again, mucho gracias, mucho appreciado.

[tyler1991991]

If you want to see Tali's face in ME3 were and how do you think it should be done? Do you think it should be shown during the "sex" scene or at the end?
I can see either or working to show off her face part of me says show it at the end but then its like well what about the sex scene wouldn't we see it there if they were going to show it?

[Errationatus]

VictorianTrash wrote...

Tali's likely one of my favorite characters in the game, though it's not because she's 'kind', 'supportive', 'cute', or what have you. In sci-fi, I've always leaned toward the tech-heads; I love a character who can work engines and hack, or do rudimentary and advanced electronic repairs. I like hearing them prattle on in tech-jargon and explaining the sciences they work in detail; they give you the technological and scientific run-down of the lore, which is where most of my interest, lore-wise, is. That, and Tali sort of reminds me of Case from Neuromancer, minus the drug-addiction and drinking.

Techy, sure, but what proportion of quarians in the fleet share Tali's talent, do you think?  Is it a specialized class or is it taught along with their ABC's?  "The wet sprocket is connected to the wang-chunger, which is routed through the bananarama.  Got that, kids?  Good." 

Do quarians have stratified classes?  Are there caste systems on their ships?  I can't remember if Bioware or the codex touched on that aspect of their culture...  

How much of that would the geth absorb?  Legion does mention that they've been cleaning up Rannoch for the quarians since the end of the Morning War.  Would they apply quarian culture to their collective?  Would they have a context for it?

[Errationatus]

tyler1991991 wrote...

If you want to see Tali's face in ME3 were and how do you think it should be done? Do you think it should be shown during the "sex" scene or at the end?
I can see either or working to show off her face part of me says show it at the end but then its like well what about the sex scene wouldn't we see it there if they were going to show it?

As long as its done in character, as long as it makes sense for Tali herself to decide she's gonna pull the Big Reveal, personally, I don't really care where and when.  If it's done just for fanservice I'll be very disappointed.

There, see?  I'm participating.  

Modifié par JakeMacDon, 11 octobre 2011 - 09:59 .

[Bugsie]

VictorianTrash wrote...
But to get back on track:

Tali's likely one of my favorite characters in the game, though it's not because she's 'kind', 'supportive', 'cute', or what have you. In sci-fi, I've always leaned toward the tech-heads; I love a character who can work engines and hack, or do rudimentary and advanced electronic repairs. I like hearing them prattle on in tech-jargon and explaining the sciences they work in detail; they give you the technological and scientific run-down of the lore, which is where most of my interest, lore-wise, is. That, and Tali sort of reminds me of Case from Neuromancer, minus the drug-addiction and drinking.

I like Liara because she's a scientist and I can identify that, and I can identify with Tali in the same way as she is in a role that in the real world is more often than not dominated by men. 

My appreciation for Tali has actually grown through replaying ME2 many times. My personal opinion, and it's my opinion, I think she's one of the best written characters in the game.  Again I reiterate, one of the things I find very interesting about quarians as a whole, is their role as the galaxies pariahs.  I find it both tragic and compelling, the complexities of their relationship with the geth part of that.

Also I want to say there is nothing wrong with people thinking that a character is 'kind' 'supportive' or 'cute'.  Who cares how they percieve her?  Doesn't actually change who she is in the game.  YMMV though.  I actually dislike it when people say 'you're not liking this character in the right way!!!' which is what I tend to see a lot of on this forum (from both gushers and haters alike).  I don't know about others but I tend to shy away from serious in depth debate, because more often than not it just ends up in grief, with insults flying.  I confess, I come to BSN to gush, or daw, or have fun.  I mostly lurk because I don't have a lot of time to debate points of interest and I have zero interest in sticking around in a thread where I or the people around me are insulted for 'not discussing serious issues of character' EVERY. SINGLE. POST.

[tyler1991991]

JakeMacDon wrote...

tyler1991991 wrote...

If you want to see Tali's face in ME3 were and how do you think it should be done? Do you think it should be shown during the "sex" scene or at the end?
I can see either or working to show off her face part of me says show it at the end but then its like well what about the sex scene wouldn't we see it there if they were going to show it?

As long as its done in character, as long as it makes sense for Tali herself to decide she's gonna pull the Big Reveal, personally, I don't really care where and when.  If it's done just for fanservice I'll be very disappointed.

There, see?  I'm participating.  

o yea without a doubt
i just ment if you had to vision a scene how would you do it what would be goin on

[What?]

JakeMacDon wrote...

VictorianTrash wrote...

Tali's likely one of my favorite characters in the game, though it's not because she's 'kind', 'supportive', 'cute', or what have you. In sci-fi, I've always leaned toward the tech-heads; I love a character who can work engines and hack, or do rudimentary and advanced electronic repairs. I like hearing them prattle on in tech-jargon and explaining the sciences they work in detail; they give you the technological and scientific run-down of the lore, which is where most of my interest, lore-wise, is. That, and Tali sort of reminds me of Case from Neuromancer, minus the drug-addiction and drinking.

Techy, sure, but what proportion of quarians in the fleet share Tali's talent, do you think?  Is it a specialized class or is it taught along with their ABC's?  "The wet sprocket is connected to the wang-chunger, which is routed through the bananarama.  Got that, kids?  Good." 

Do quarians have stratified classes?  Are there caste systems on their ships?  I can't remember if Bioware or the codex touched on that aspect of their culture...  

How much of that would the geth absorb?  Legion does mention that they've been cleaning up Rannoch for the quarians since the end of the Morning War.  Would they apply quarian culture to their collective?  Would they have a context for it?

I imagine a good amount of the Quarians share Tali's talent, though it's a question of to what degree. If I recall, the run-down for your team prior to the suicide-mission (when you pick your people) described Tali as a genius among her people, though I can't say if that was simply embellishment to emphasize her ability for the tech-slot. Though I'd venture to say not every Quarian is technologically-inclined. Take Kal'Reegar for example. He knew rudimentary tech for his place as a marine (guns, suit-repairs, etc.), but seemed to display little knowledge beyond that. In that conversation with him post-round one of the Admiralty Board, he essentially said he had no idea what the scientists were doing on Haestrom because it was 'beyond him'.

I don't know if Quarians share a hierarchy of classes, like you'd see on Earth. From what I recall, it's essentially broken into three parts: citizen, captain, and admiral. And each part acts in some measure of concert with the other; it's somewhat like a hyper-republic.

As for culture, I doubt it. The Geth view things rationally and numerically. They seem incapable of comprehending more abstract facets of society, such as culture--culture involves various 'illogical' aspects such as religion, customs, government, art, music etc. that are learned through enculturation. Though the Geth could likely immitate Quarian culture through extensive observation, they couldn't understand it because such things can't be calculated and rationalized with numbers and consensus.

Modifié par VictorianTrash, 11 octobre 2011 - 10:31 .

[Swordfish56]

For people who didn't go through with the romance with Tali in ME2, I would imagine the reveal to be during 'sex scene', since the Shepard they are playing hasn't seen it yet.

For people who did go through with the romance with Tali...there are many ways to go with this. Personally I am imagining a scene where:

The Reapers have been defeated and Rannoch has been restored to the quarians. Shepard and Tali are sitting together on a beach watching the sunset.

Tali tells Shepard she wants to 'breathe the air of her homeworld free of her visor'

Shepard tells Tali that she could get sick from breathing the air, but Tali says that this moment is special, and removes her mask. Taking a deep breath of the Rannoch sea breeze, the camera pans around to reveal her smiling face. Shepard and Tali share a kiss 'on camera'. Fade to black.
Roll credits.

That's it. I want my playthrough of ME3 to end like that.

[tyler1991991]

Swordfish56 wrote...

For people who didn't go through with the romance with Tali in ME2, I would imagine the reveal to be during 'sex scene', since the Shepard they are playing hasn't seen it yet.

For people who did go through with the romance with Tali...there are many ways to go with this. Personally I am imagining a scene where:

The Reapers have been defeated and Rannoch has been restored to the quarians. Shepard and Tali are sitting together on a beach watching the sunset.

Tali tells Shepard she wants to 'breathe the air of her homeworld free of her visor'

Shepard tells Tali that she could get sick from breathing the air, but Tali says that this moment is special, and removes her mask. Taking a deep breath of the Rannoch sea breeze, the camera pans around to reveal her smiling face. Shepard and Tali share a kiss 'on camera'. Fade to black.
Roll credits.

That's it. I want my playthrough of ME3 to end like that.

you sir have read my mind that what i was thinking
i really want to see her smile too and maybe cry a little from being so happy

[Errationatus]

tyler1991991 wrote...

o yea without a doubt
i just ment if you had to vision a scene how would you do it what would be goin on

Ah, I see.  Well, first off, I think we as the player should earn it.  By that I mean it could be considered a reward for doing things right, in character, that makes logical sense for Tali to pop that face plate off and give us a big smile. Make us do the right thing.  Punish the douchebags.  No reveal for you if you break her heart.

Not some sex scene, that's too cliche, it's too easy.  Not even in the main body of the game.  Personally, if I were the one deciding, I'd stick it at the very end of the game, in the epilogue, let the fans grind their teeth, make them sweat out the "damn them, they're not going to do it!!!", bits of grinding teeth falling like snow on their controllers. 

It's the Tali Ending, the culmination of her romance arc.  It could be a years after you defeat the Reapers, some future where you and she have watched the quarians slowly re-adapt to and rebuild Rannoch. 

You, as Shepard, are sitting on the porch of the house you built for her  - because, hey, some promises are worth keeping, even if you weren't the one who made them - just enjoying the last rays of the Rannochian sunset, and Tali comes out with the quarian analogue of lemonade or whiskey or whatever, hands it to you, sits down next to you and raises the glass to take a sip. Perhaps she offers a toast.  As you agree and raise your glass to her, it's only at that point...

...you realize she's not wearing her headgear.  She looks full on at you and smiles that smile.  Fade out, epic music.

Not some DA-DA-DUUUUMMM!!! kind of reveal.  A quiet one.  In character, done because it was something she'd do, a gesture that bespeaks her sweetness and grace and trust in you and her happiness and satisfaction that all has ended well, despite all that's gone before.

I could live with that.  I would like that kind of reveal.  It wouldn't insult my intelligence and it flows naturally from the story.

That's just me, though.

[tyler1991991]

JakeMacDon wrote...
Ah, I see.  Well, first off, I think we as the player should earn it.  By that I mean it could be considered a reward for doing things right, in character, that makes logical sense for Tali to pop that face plate off and give us a big smile. Make us do the right thing.  Punish the douchebags.  No reveal for you if you break her heart.

Not some sex scene, that's too cliche, it's too easy.  Not even in the main body of the game.  Personally, if I were the one deciding, I'd stick it at the very end of the game, in the epilogue, let the fans grind their teeth, make them sweat out the "damn them, they're not going to do it!!!", bits of grinding teeth falling like snow on their controllers. 

It's the Tali Ending, the culmination of her romance arc.  It could be a years after you defeat the Reapers, some future where you and she have watched the quarians slowly re-adapt to and rebuild Rannoch. 

You, as Shepard, are sitting on the porch of the house you built for her  - because, hey, some promises are worth keeping, even if you weren't the one who made them - just enjoying the last rays of the Rannochian sunset, and Tali comes out with the quarian analogue of lemonade or whiskey or whatever, hands it to you, sits down next to you and raises the glass to take a sip. Perhaps she offers a toast.  As you agree and raise your glass to her, it's only at that point...

...you realize she's not wearing her headgear.  She looks full on at you and smiles that smile.  Fade out, epic music.

Not some DA-DA-DUUUUMMM!!! kind of reveal.  A quiet one.  In character, done because it was something she'd do, a gesture that bespeaks her sweetness and grace and trust in you and her happiness and satisfaction that all has ended well, despite all that's gone before.

I could live with that.  I would like that kind of reveal.  It wouldn't insult my intelligence and it flows naturally from the story.

That's just me, though.

I too feel like we should see her face but to only people who romanced her and yes have done everything right if you make her sad then nope. I also feel like it should in some way be a choice, I know if they show it either way the people who dont want to see it will see it, but that way both sides will be happy

[DoNotIngest]

Lingering smile. It's got to be a *lingering* smile.

[kyonkun]

I agree, it should be a soft reveal. Nothing too schmaltzy and nothing too cliched. There should be a pay off for any successful romance in this game, and I expect no less with Tali.

[Pride Demon]

JakeMacDon wrote...

Thank you for this.  It is much appreciated.  As I said, I'm fairly certain I didn't help anything by getting p!ssed off.  Must be me Scottish blood.  I'm an adult, and as an adult I know better than this, but sometimes... oi!

Personally, I've said all I can say on this particular subject.  This too, as it's said, shall pass.

Again, mucho gracias, mucho appreciado.

OT, don't disparage your origins... Your people is strong, resolute and indipendent, it proved so time and time again through history, these are admirable traits...

And being bold and direct with one's opinions is not a problem per se, unfortunately there's the hystory of this thread to consider too: after the collapse of the old Migrant Fleet thread the community pretty much dispersed (good riddance for some, but sad loss for others), only the effort of people like Collider and Runescapeguy kept the threads going, and a long period of heavy bashing on them (the threads I mean) started (that probably caused many of the remaining ones to move on to "Clan Zorah" to discuss in peace)...

Going back you pretty much see it all: some trolling just because they could, some faking themselves Tali fans just to pick fights with everyone and keep the stereotype of the Talimancer as rabid going, others starting hate threads that were there just to elicit bad reactions from us fans and thus keep putting us in a bad light (I once saw no less then four such threads in a single day, imagine that)...

While one can not justify all that was done or said in this or previous threads, try and understand the situation, people here have become a bit... let's say frustrated and paranoid due to this situation, especially when it comes to people with strong opinions (given what they usually turn out to be), it's not like any of us has it against you because of anything in particular...

Hope you didn't feel offended, people here nowadays are usually a good bunch, generally not more creepy than any other fan thread (and, while sporadically, I visited several, even without posting), however some are wary of "outsiders" so to speak... That's how I see it anyway...

BTW, I agree wholeheartedly with you that it's the Talimancer's job to lift his label, but for this to happen you need a willing counterpart (haters tend to be as rabid as the lovers when Tali is involved, if not more, that's what leads to situations like the one you found yourself in unfortunately)...

To bring my action as an example: I tried reasoning with a few "haters", I was ignored, again and again... The rabid Talimancer is taken as fact the same as the "Earth is flat" theory was taken as fact in the Middle Ages, and many ignored reason and kept their original way of thinking for a long time after the opposite was proven right... What more can be done if your counterpart WANTS to believe "Earth is flat"? Bashing your head against a wall proves to be frustrating quite fast... :/

At this point the idea is so radicated that the only real way to convince everyone Talimancers are not as a rule rabid would be for no Talimancers to be rabid ever, as with every fandom, one has to realistically accept such a thing is impossible: the rabid mancers do exist after all, even if not in the all encompassing manner some would imply...

Just my opinion anyway...

JakeMacDon wrote...

Ah, I see.  Well, first off, I think we as the player should earn
it.  By that I mean it could be considered a reward for doing things
right, in character, that makes logical sense for Tali to pop that face
plate off and give us a big smile. Make us do the right thing.  Punish
the douchebags.  No reveal for you if you break her heart.

Not
some sex scene, that's too cliche, it's too easy.  Not even in the main
body of the game.  Personally, if I were the one deciding, I'd stick it
at the very end of the game, in the epilogue, let the fans grind their teeth, make them sweat out the "damn them, they're not going to do it!!!", bits of grinding teeth falling like snow on their controllers. 


It's the Tali Ending, the culmination of her romance arc.  It could be a
years after you defeat the Reapers, some future where you and she have
watched the quarians slowly re-adapt to and rebuild Rannoch. 

You, as Shepard, are sitting on the porch of the house you
built for her  - because, hey, some promises are worth keeping, even if
you weren't the one who made them - just enjoying the last rays of the
Rannochian sunset, and Tali comes out with the quarian analogue of
lemonade or whiskey or whatever, hands it to you, sits down next to you
and raises the glass to take a sip. Perhaps she offers a toast.  As you
agree and raise your glass to her, it's only at that point...

...you realize she's not wearing her headgear.  She looks full on at you and smiles that smile.  Fade out, epic music.

Not some DA-DA-DUUUUMMM!!!
kind of reveal.  A quiet one.  In character, done because it was
something she'd do, a gesture that bespeaks her sweetness and grace and
trust in you and her happiness and satisfaction that all has ended well,
despite all that's gone before.

I could live with that.  I would
like that kind of reveal.  It wouldn't insult my intelligence and it
flows naturally from the story.

That's just me, though.

And I fully agree with this one...

Modifié par Pride Demon, 11 octobre 2011 - 05:14 .

[ChaplainTappman]

 For any and all interested, the next bit of "Funny Things" is FINALLY up on Ashes of Dead Stars.

Re: the face reveal, I've said it before and I'll say it again. It should be 100% contingent on whether or not you romance her. Otherwise there's zero reason for her to take her mask off. It'd just be blatant pandering, like Alistair's cameo in DA2.

[GoG ToXiC]

ChaplainTappman wrote...

 For any and all interested, the next bit of "Funny Things" is FINALLY up on Ashes of Dead Stars.

Re: the face reveal, I've said it before and I'll say it again. It should be 100% contingent on whether or not you romance her. Otherwise there's zero reason for her to take her mask off. It'd just be blatant pandering, like Alistair's cameo in DA2.

Very good.  It's nice to see Shepard actually have some thoughts on the cibernetics used in reconstructing him.  Keep up the good work!

Oh, and I support Jake's ending for ME3.  

[T.Attwood]

Hi Pride Demon! Long time no see!

Pride Demon wrote...

BTW, I agree wholeheartedly with you that it's the Talimancer's job to lift his label, but for this to happen you need a willing counterpart (haters tend to be as rabid as the lovers when Tali is involved, if not more, that's what leads to situations like the one you found yourself in unfortunately)...

Not sure if I agree with this one. Consider this perspective: For me, I joined these forums in response to playing the ME games and enjoying them. I wanted to have a conversation about particular characters in the game, with like minded people (it is no different to going out for a drink with friends and talking about something interesting you have experienced in the world). These are the first forums I have ever been on, so I had no idea what to expect. Shortly after joining, I realised that because I liked Tali as a character, I had people I had never heard of, making assumptions about me and labeling me this and that and making bizarre judgements. I was left thinking, "who are these people and why are they doing this?". Then I thought, " f*** them!". I do find it strange when I see comments like 'Talimancers have to lift their label", because I dont see why I should justify myself to people who I don't know, and who have made completely groundless and inaccurate generalizations about me. This leads me onto my next point which you highlight very well...

Pride Demon wrote...
To bring my action as an example: I tried reasoning with a few "haters", I was ignored, again and again... The rabid Talimancer is taken as fact the same as the "Earth is flat" theory was taken as fact in the Middle Ages, and many ignored reason and kept their original way of thinking for a long time after the opposite was proven right... What more can be done if your counterpart WANTS to believe "Earth is flat"? Bashing your head against a wall proves to be frustrating quite fast... :/

Exactly! People who do this are doing it out of spite. Their reason for arguing and throwing abuse is to drive a wedge between you, and something you like. Doing so gives them power, because they have just controlled your actions and beliefs. Arguing with people like that is futile because they aren't reasonable or rational. It is the conflict they feed off. Like with everyone else here, I feel the frustration when people say completely inaccurate things about you and your beliefs, and so you feel you need to put them right, but in many cases, they aren't going to listen because resolving and finding a solution is not what they want, so it is pointless in trying to provide one.

Edit: just to clarify, (because after reading this back, it may sound like I am raging a bit, which is not my intention). I am just making a general point about something I am sure many of us have experienced ourselves.

Modifié par T.Attwood, 11 octobre 2011 - 07:05 .

[Quole]

Modifié par Quole, 11 octobre 2011 - 07:42 .

[Pride Demon]

T.Attwood wrote...

Hi Pride Demon! Long time no see!

Nice seeing you too... It's been a while...
Don't worry, I understand you point...

[FourthFithsCrazy]

JakeMacDon wrote...
Ah, I see.  Well, first off, I think we as the player should earn it.  By that I mean it could be considered a reward for doing things right, in character, that makes logical sense for Tali to pop that face plate off and give us a big smile. Make us do the right thing.  Punish the douchebags.  No reveal for you if you break her heart.

Not some sex scene, that's too cliche, it's too easy.  Not even in the main body of the game.  Personally, if I were the one deciding, I'd stick it at the very end of the game, in the epilogue, let the fans grind their teeth, make them sweat out the "damn them, they're not going to do it!!!", bits of grinding teeth falling like snow on their controllers. 

It's the Tali Ending, the culmination of her romance arc.  It could be a years after you defeat the Reapers, some future where you and she have watched the quarians slowly re-adapt to and rebuild Rannoch. 

You, as Shepard, are sitting on the porch of the house you built for her  - because, hey, some promises are worth keeping, even if you weren't the one who made them - just enjoying the last rays of the Rannochian sunset, and Tali comes out with the quarian analogue of lemonade or whiskey or whatever, hands it to you, sits down next to you and raises the glass to take a sip. Perhaps she offers a toast.  As you agree and raise your glass to her, it's only at that point...

...you realize she's not wearing her headgear.  She looks full on at you and smiles that smile.  Fade out, epic music.

Not some DA-DA-DUUUUMMM!!! kind of reveal.  A quiet one.  In character, done because it was something she'd do, a gesture that bespeaks her sweetness and grace and trust in you and her happiness and satisfaction that all has ended well, despite all that's gone before.

I could live with that.  I would like that kind of reveal.  It wouldn't insult my intelligence and it flows naturally from the story.

That's just me, though.

Completely agree.  Besides, if you want to see her face but don't want to do the whole romance ark, there's always youtube.

[Dethklokx7]

[/quote]

Ah, I see.  Well, first off, I think we as the player should earn it.  By that I mean it could be considered a reward for doing things right, in character, that makes logical sense for Tali to pop that face plate off and give us a big smile. Make us do the right thing.  Punish the douchebags.  No reveal for you if you break her heart.

Not some sex scene, that's too cliche, it's too easy.  Not even in the main body of the game.  Personally, if I were the one deciding, I'd stick it at the very end of the game, in the epilogue, let the fans grind their teeth, make them sweat out the "damn them, they're not going to do it!!!", bits of grinding teeth falling like snow on their controllers. 

It's the Tali Ending, the culmination of her romance arc.  It could be a years after you defeat the Reapers, some future where you and she have watched the quarians slowly re-adapt to and rebuild Rannoch. 

You, as Shepard, are sitting on the porch of the house you built for her  - because, hey, some promises are worth keeping, even if you weren't the one who made them - just enjoying the last rays of the Rannochian sunset, and Tali comes out with the quarian analogue of lemonade or whiskey or whatever, hands it to you, sits down next to you and raises the glass to take a sip. Perhaps she offers a toast.  As you agree and raise your glass to her, it's only at that point...

...you realize she's not wearing her headgear.  She looks full on at you and smiles that smile.  Fade out, epic music.

Not some DA-DA-DUUUUMMM!!! kind of reveal.  A quiet one.  In character, done because it was something she'd do, a gesture that bespeaks her sweetness and grace and trust in you and her happiness and satisfaction that all has ended well, despite all that's gone before.

I could live with that.  I would like that kind of reveal.  It wouldn't insult my intelligence and it flows naturally from the story.

That's just me, though.

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Read...My....Mind...... Annnnnnnnnnd........How bout after beating the game the homeworld house is accessible like your private quarters.

[DoNotIngest]

Dethklokx7 wrote...
Read...My....Mind...... Annnnnnnnnnd........How bout after beating the game the homeworld house is accessible like your private quarters.

Cuddling without the visor?


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