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[Xilizhra]

Edit: As people clearly still choose not to listen...

What does it say about your thread if you can't handle talking about s/s relationships involving them? We'll talk about every part of the character except this one thing?

[howl3d]

we will as long as it stays civil but it almost never dos

[Skullheart]

Hey guys, Im starting a new playthrough and I wanna now something: What would happen to Tali if I don't recruit her? I've come to three possibilities.

1.- She dies in Haestrom. Shepard didn't save her, so the Geth killed all the quarians in that mision and the migrant fleet never knows what is happening with Dholen.

2.- She success by herself, and survives her mision. I really want this to happen, so she won't be a damsel in distress anymore. This could bring a maturity to her character, Showing us that she doesn't need Shepard or his father to be someone to be respected.

3.- Forced canon recruitment, just like Liara's forced close friendship.

Modifié par Skullheart, 15 octobre 2011 - 02:32 .

[DoNotIngest]

Because it hijacks the thread and quickly diverges into walls of text debating the merits of S/S, changing a previously straight character, all that nonsense.


This is a thread to discuss such Tali related things as third toes, boot knives, talking too much and swirly patterns, not for unrelated debates.

[howl3d]

good way to put it

[Comsky159]

Nashiktal wrote...
In any case Tali has the exact same dialogue with female shep as male, the only thing missing is initiative from femshep. I would be glad to see her bisexual, would mean I would actually have a reason to play as a femshep.

But why didn't she initiate a relationship concurrently? From what I've there isn't any kind of stigma attached to homosexuality in this futuristic universe, and I doubt Bioware would make  it that much more difficult for themselves after having been provided a neglected opportunity  for f/f in both ME1&2.

Ultimately I just don't buy into the idea; or at least not easily. After the addition of a romantic relationship in ME2, I doubt I can accept the compounding of another sexual orientation without cringing. Just looking at this proposal from the broad, development centred angle it doesn't roll with me. Of course I'll admit I have rather more individual reasons as a male gamer; relatively Tali's subplot was arguably most congruent with the more traditional Shakespearean progression (embracing femininity without overt sexualisation) which I find endearing.

Oh and I certainly don't hold with "coming out of the closet" nonsense in sci-fi epics. That's just getting silly.

Modifié par Comsky159, 15 octobre 2011 - 02:57 .

[T.Attwood]

DoNotIngest wrote...
I'd really like to know who made those cards, and if they do comissions...

I just did some digging if anyone is interested in the playing cards...

http://www.darkhorse...t-Playing-Cards

Looks like they are available mid November 2011.

Modifié par T.Attwood, 15 octobre 2011 - 03:53 .

[howl3d]

i thought that was the dark horse symbal on the box to the left.

[DoNotIngest]

T.Attwood wrote...

DoNotIngest wrote...
I'd really like to know who made those cards, and if they do comissions...

I just did some digging if anyone is interested in the playing cards...

http://www.darkhorse...t-Playing-Cards

Looks like they are available mid November 2011.

Wait...

So Bioware THEMSELVES made Tali the Queen of Hearts?

And we'll be able to buy unlimited decks of these?

Plus the box is awesomesauce TIMmy?



OOOOOOH MYYYYYY GAAAAAAAAWD!!!!

[Quole]

Abispa wrote...

Andaius20 wrote...

Me too, it just seems to be a bad rectcon, or all of a sudden every past character suddenly turns bi. It's a cheap blow to character development as well. I don't want this to turn into anohter Crappy DA II character development debacle.

Like how Tali falls in love with Shepard even if he spends ME1 treating her like garbage? Or Bioware spending hours of dialogue establishing how fragile the Quarian immunity system is but then introduce some magic Mordin sex gel that allows Tali to have sex with Shepard (which probably wouldn't impregnate her and COULD kill her, thus robbing the Quarians of a potential mother either way)? If a person wants to romance Tali as a male or a female in THEIR game, and Bioware provides the option, it has no effect on me in mine. I was still able to have Shepard say, "You'll get sick" and continue with their non-romantic relationship. If someone has a lesbain affair with her in ME3 it won't effect how you interact with her in your own games.

And in Tali's case, being "bi" wouldn't be much of a "retcon" considering the Shadow Broker files on her in LotSB.

Its already been established that quarians do have relationships with other races. Besides, if you know anything about immunology, you would know that the risk factor really isnt that bad.
And about the Shadow Broker files... you are assuming it is for shepard even though it is never confirmed that it is. In reality it is probably just intended for male Shepard but Bioware forgot and kept it for femshep as well. Until Tali actually says the way she feels about femshep, its all speculation. Due to this, theres no reason to discuss it.

Modifié par Quole, 15 octobre 2011 - 04:38 .

[PseudoEthnic]

Skullheart wrote...

Hey guys, Im starting a new playthrough and I wanna now something: What would happen to Tali if I don't recruit her? I've come to three possibilities.

1.- She dies in Haestrom. Shepard didn't save her, so the Geth killed all the quarians in that mision and the migrant fleet never knows what is happening with Dholen.

2.- She success by herself, and survives her mision. I really want this to happen, so she won't be a damsel in distress anymore. This could bring a maturity to her character, Showing us that she doesn't need Shepard or his father to be someone to be respected.

3.- Forced canon recruitment, just like Liara's forced close friendship.

I would prefer #2 to happen if you didn't recruit her. However, I can't imagine why anyone wouldn't recruit her since she has the shield upgrades you need for your ship. Unless you plan on finishing the game with ten remiaing squadmates instead of twelve.

[ZenJestr]

I don't see Tali solo'ing a platoon of geth troopers and a regenerating Geth Colossus on foot with an ME2 shotgun...(if she had her ME1 shields and shotgun, she'd totally be able to do it)

[DoNotIngest]

Meh, I'd agree, but then Kal probably just took his mask off so he could fire from his second rocket launcher, and owned the day. At least Tali had a good squad for Haestrom.

[sites32]

I imagine a Quarian soldier has to be brave, knowing that suit ruptures on the battlefield could possibly kill them.

[Scourge king]

Well anyway i guess im gonna bring back my response from like age 260 somethin anyay i think that it would be possible for a human/Quarian hybrid because if you look at ancient egypt's old pharoahs the first ones they looked different that average people with the head/bone configuration yet as we move down on the lines of pharoahs you see that the head/bone configuration starts to loojk different and more human and theres also a documentary on it so this is what it basically says is that the first pharoahs were aliens then the second pharoah was a human/alien hybrid and as it moves down the line the hybrids just keep looking more and more human till you have a human/alien hybrid that is mostly human (sorry for bringing this back up) but anyway so i say that Tali is a candidate for becoming pregnant in ME3.

[ZenJestr]

Arcian wrote...

ZenJestr wrote...

I don't see Tali solo'ing a platoon of geth troopers and a regenerating Geth Colossus on foot with an ME2 shotgun...(if she had her ME1 shields and shotgun, she'd totally be able to do it)

Gameplay and story segregation, man.

I was half kidding lol

I still don't see her making it out unless she gets backup from the Flotilla, though...

or unless she happens to have a LOT of food and clean water stashed in that room she was in somehow...she could probably wait it out then...


but yea, I don't see Tali making it out if trained marines get owned so quickly...

[sites32]

Scourge king wrote...

Well anyway i guess im gonna bring back my response from like age 260 somethin anyay i think that it would be possible for a human/Quarian hybrid because if you look at ancient egypt's old pharoahs the first ones they looked different that average people with the head/bone configuration yet as we move down on the lines of pharoahs you see that the head/bone configuration starts to loojk different and more human and theres also a documentary on it so this is what it basically says is that the first pharoahs were aliens then the second pharoah was a human/alien hybrid and as it moves down the line the hybrids just keep looking more and more human till you have a human/alien hybrid that is mostly human (sorry for bringing this back up) but anyway so i say that Tali is a candidate for becoming pregnant in ME3.

God please don't bring back the Quman conversation.

[ZenJestr]

sitesunseen wrote...

Scourge king wrote...

Well anyway i guess im gonna bring back my response from like age 260 somethin anyay i think that it would be possible for a human/Quarian hybrid because if you look at ancient egypt's old pharoahs the first ones they looked different that average people with the head/bone configuration yet as we move down on the lines of pharoahs you see that the head/bone configuration starts to loojk different and more human and theres also a documentary on it so this is what it basically says is that the first pharoahs were aliens then the second pharoah was a human/alien hybrid and as it moves down the line the hybrids just keep looking more and more human till you have a human/alien hybrid that is mostly human (sorry for bringing this back up) but anyway so i say that Tali is a candidate for becoming pregnant in ME3.

God please don't bring back the Quman conversation.

[sites32]

LMAO

[DoNotIngest]

Zen wins the internetz for that perfect response.




So, do we know yet if squadmates have unique melees?

[Angmir]

Qumans ? Right ...

Lets start with finding out what are Quarians exacly and how they look.
What if they are just gas beeings that die when diffused in the air released from their suits ;p (like the german doc from Hellboy)

[ZenJestr]

well then we wouldn't be able to have a Talimance sex scene then would we

and then they wouldn't be complaining about being in their suits all the time since that would be the only way they could interact with the world

[DoNotIngest]

And they wouldn't have silvery eyes.



Why is it that nobody thinks Tali's eyes will be luminescent silver? At least, seems most don't.

Modifié par DoNotIngest, 15 octobre 2011 - 09:37 .

[ZenJestr]

I also subscribe to that idea...

as an alternative idea on how quarian eyes should look, I think they should be more...nebula looking......dunno if that makes sense


like imagine looking into Tali's eyes and basically seeing something like this (although not exactly..):



it's hard to describe without actually showing you the image I have in my head....


I wish I was good with digital art programs....