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tyler1991991 wrote...

i understand it is war and we will be making hard choices like sacrificing plants, start systems, and choosing one squad mate over the other like Virmire but they shouldn't give us a choice were you are damned both ways it would be the dumbest decision ever to do that to one of the most loveable and famous characters in the ME universe

So you would be ok sacrificing planets and entire star systems? Tali as is shepard are willing to sacrifice themselves to save billions. Not to cause the deaths of worlds so their love may survive.

[DoNotIngest]

tyler1991991 wrote...

i understand it is war and we will be making hard choices like sacrificing plants, start systems, and choosing one squad mate over the other like Virmire but they shouldn't give us a choice were you are damned both ways it would be the dumbest decision ever to do that to one of the most loveable and famous characters in the ME universe

Well, if you missed content or chose the wrong option, I can see this. But it *should* be possible to have an almost-flawless Reaper War win, like the no-deaths Collector Base op.


I mean, somebody who bought both previous games with all DLC, completed all missions and was full Paragon for the whole damn thing should have a shot at a perfect Paragon ending, correcto?

Modifié par DoNotIngest, 23 octobre 2011 - 03:53 .

[tyler1991991]

sitesunseen wrote...

tyler1991991 wrote...

i understand it is war and we will be making hard choices like sacrificing plants, start systems, and choosing one squad mate over the other like Virmire but they shouldn't give us a choice were you are damned both ways it would be the dumbest decision ever to do that to one of the most loveable and famous characters in the ME universe

So you would be ok sacrificing planets and entire star systems? Tali as is shepard are willing to sacrifice themselves to save billions. Not to cause the deaths of worlds so their love may survive.

No what i ment was like lets say you can fight the reapers on this planet or start system right now and die or you can  gather your forces  killing everyone there but increase your chances to destroy them in that system. The longer you wait the more people die but your chances go up like that

[tyler1991991]

DoNotIngest wrote...

tyler1991991 wrote...

i understand it is war and we will be making hard choices like sacrificing plants, start systems, and choosing one squad mate over the other like Virmire but they shouldn't give us a choice were you are damned both ways it would be the dumbest decision ever to do that to one of the most loveable and famous characters in the ME universe

Well, if you missed content or chose the wrong option, I can see this. But it *should* be possible to have an almost-flawless Reaper War win, like the no-deaths Collector Base op.



I mean, somebody who bought both previous games with all DLC, completed all missions and was full Paragon for the whole damn thing should have a shot at a perfect Paragon ending, correcto?

 yea thats what i ment if you did everything right then you should get a good ending you shouldnt be punished just because bioware wanted to have that situation in the game

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tyler1991991 wrote...

sitesunseen wrote...

tyler1991991 wrote...

i understand it is war and we will be making hard choices like sacrificing plants, start systems, and choosing one squad mate over the other like Virmire but they shouldn't give us a choice were you are damned both ways it would be the dumbest decision ever to do that to one of the most loveable and famous characters in the ME universe

So you would be ok sacrificing planets and entire star systems? Tali as is shepard are willing to sacrifice themselves to save billions. Not to cause the deaths of worlds so their love may survive.

No what i ment was like lets say you can fight the reapers on this planet or start system right now and die or you can  gather your forces  killing everyone there but increase your chances to destroy them in that system. The longer you wait the more people die but your chances go up like that

I see what your getting at.

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sitesunseen wrote...

tyler1991991 wrote...

i understand it is war and we will be making hard choices like sacrificing plants, start systems, and choosing one squad mate over the other like Virmire but they shouldn't give us a choice were you are damned both ways it would be the dumbest decision ever to do that to one of the most loveable and famous characters in the ME universe

So you would be ok sacrificing planets and entire star systems? Tali as is shepard are willing to sacrifice themselves to save billions. Not to cause the deaths of worlds so their love may survive.

That's up to Shepard. We all know Tali would give herself to save any inhabited planet. It really depends on how much Shepard needs Tali personally.


For me, in such a case, my Shepard would have had enough of sacrificing for the galaxy. I mean, seriously, the poor guy busts his ass in ME1, sustaining insult and injury, gets his ass blown up shortly afterwards, and is dragged back to the living as some half-Terminator monstrousity to find that he's been disowned and defiled by all but a couple of down-on-their-luck friends and an evil organization that he'd set himself again time and time again. Especially if he was on Akuze (Though I go Earthborn and Blitz for my best playthrough).

So then he finally gets the chance to be close to someone, after all of that bullsh!t, while also risking his nad her lives for the galaxy yet again in a suicide mission. Not to mention he gets his damned body hacked in Overlord and she loses her last remaining parent just before. Plus, hell, the hopeless romantic trapped in me wants to think Shepard would have beat his head into mush against his shower wall if Tali wasn't there to brighten every day.

Anyways, so finally the assholish entity that is the galaxy stops it's collective pissing on him, and listens? After locking him up for *MONTHS*, stealing his ship *AGAIN*, scattering his crew, friends and lover, and trying to get him war-criminalized? And now it needs him to drag their ass out of their ignorance-fueled flames yet again? From the Reapers that they never listened about, as they were time and time again saved by them via Shep-crifice. 

Not at the cost his most precious thing in the galaxy. Hells naw.


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Modifié par DoNotIngest, 23 octobre 2011 - 04:01 .

[tyler1991991]

DoNotIngest wrote...

That's up to Shepard. We all know Tali would give herself to save any inhabited planet. It really depends on how much Shepard needs Tali personally.


For me, in such a case, my Shepard would have had enough of sacrificing for the galaxy. I mean, seriously, the poor guy busts his ass in ME1, sustaining insult and injury, gets his ass blown up shortly afterwards, and is dragged back to the living as some half-Terminator monstrousity to find that he's been disowned and defiled by all but a couple of down-on-their-luck friends and an evil organization that he'd set himself again time and time again. Especially if he was on Akuze (Though I go Earthborn and Blitz for my best playthrough).

So then he finally gets the chance to be close to someone, after all of that bullsh!t, while also risking his nad her lives for the galaxy yet again in a suicide mission. Not to mention he gets his damned body hacked in Overlord and she loses her last remaining parent just before. Plus, hell, the hopeless romantic trapped in me wants to think Shepard would have beat his head into mush against his shower wall if Tali wasn't there to brighten every day.

Anyways, so finally the assholish entity that is the galaxy stops it's collective pissing on him, and listens? After locking him up for *MONTHS*, stealing his ship *AGAIN*, scattering his crew, friends and lover, and trying to get him war-criminalized? And now it needs him to drag their ass out of their ignorance-fueled flames yet again? From the Reapers that they never listened about, as they were time and time again saved by them via Shep-crifice. Not at the cost his most precious thing in the galaxy, hell naw.


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You and me both my Shep. couldnt do it without Tali at his side he would be losing the one thing that keeps him stable and his will to keep fighting. He couldnt do it nor would he want to keep fighting without her

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Shepard- Tali we give soo much, but it's never enough.
Tali- Well it could be worse I guess
Shepard- I don't know how we are going to pull this off tali.
Tali- *Looks at shepard* oh keelah would you like some cheese to go with your wine. Try being a quarian.
Shepard- I should go.

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sitesunseen wrote...

Shepard- Tali we give soo much, but it's never enough.
Tali- Well it could be worse I guess
Shepard- I don't know how we are going to pull this off tali.
Tali- *Takes Shepard's hand* You'll find a way, saera. You always do.
 Shepard- What's all this "I" stuff, now? 

Reasonable, but... I fix'd it to be more Tali-ish. Because she's not reasonable. She's adorably sympathizing. Which is why there will be no sacrificing of the definition of sweetheart. Who also happens to have had too many bad things happen to her already.


Plus, y'know. The adorableness helps with the justifying.

[Runescapeguy9]

cacharadon wrote...

seems like Tali fandom attracts a lot of romantics.. I have to ask though

Is it the mask?
The voice?
or just dem hips?

No, partially, no. Every characteristic of Tali adds to her character.

[tyler1991991]

cacharadon wrote...

seems like Tali fandom attracts a lot of romantics.. I have to ask though

Is it the mask?
The voice?
or just dem hips?

To me it’s a combination of everything. She looks good no
doubt, i do want to know what’s behind the mask, and her voice actor is very
good but to me it’s the personality. She is a strong independent woman that can
protect herself in and fight but when she gets around Shepard she gets all shy
and cute but that doesn’t mean she would let Shepard use her as a doormat she
will stand up for herself if you do something she doesn’t like she will tell
you. That’s what i can think of off the top of my head there is more but I’m tired.
I hope to see a lot more of her personality and cute moments between her and
Shepard in ME3

Modifié par tyler1991991, 23 octobre 2011 - 06:28 .

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Arcian wrote...

DoNotIngest wrote...

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It's unnerving how easy it is for some of you people to condemn billions to death over your girlfriend.

I know, I know, it's just a joke, but still.

I justify it by saying "Hell, they'd all have burned earlier if it wasn't for Shepard.  They can take one for the ****ing team already. 

[howl3d]

it would be great to have them do it for a change

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Arcian wrote...

DoNotIngest wrote...

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It's unnerving how easy it is for some of you people to condemn billions to death over your girlfriend.

I know, I know, it's just a joke, but still.

Meh. I'm sure the blue stripper race that can have succesfully mate with anything that moves and have spread through the galaxy like herpes at a highschool party will recover.



Hell, when you think about, just how many Asari are there? Maybe not enough to compare one in 17 million (Tali) to billions in trillions, but they're definitely one of, if not the most prolific race.

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Saphra Deden wrote...

Though if you are going to condemn a world Thessia is the best choice.

I'm afraid to ask why, and yet the same part of me that rubbernecks at car accidents wants to know.

And like others, I'd sooner burn Kar'shan, except that as I understand it, the reapers have done that for us en route to Earth.

Modifié par aiDvEoN, 23 octobre 2011 - 01:47 .

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DoNotIngest wrote...

Arcian wrote...

DoNotIngest wrote...

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It's unnerving how easy it is for some of you people to condemn billions to death over your girlfriend.

I know, I know, it's just a joke, but still.

Meh. I'm sure the blue stripper race that can have succesfully mate with anything that moves and have spread through the galaxy like herpes at a highschool party will recover.

Hell, when you think about, just how many Asari are there? Maybe not enough to compare one in 17 million (Tali) to billions in trillions, but they're definitely one of, if not the most prolific race.

With reference to your previous post as well, DoNotIngest, you make some excellent points. Adding to what you say, Shepard isn't the one who has actually built all weapons (in the form of Reapers) that are now pointing at planets and their civilizations. Shepard is just one guy doing what he can to stop the Reaper threat. Even after he died and having his life destroyed to save others, he ends up being resurrected to do it all again, like he hasn't had enough pain already.
    I find it hypocritical that billions of people want to have their lives and loved ones saved, and will hold one guy responsible if it doesn't work out, and yet they couldn't care less about what Shepard loses in the process. Maybe if they don't like the choices he makes, they should get up off their ass and do something about it themselves, instead of blaming someone else if their lives are somehow "inconvenienced". Shepard isn't responsible for each persons life. If those billions all picked up a gun and stood with Shepard and risked everything like he is doing, it would make the war a lot more equal.

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Exactly, Attwood. If the galaxy won't man up and needs a trillionth of itself in the form of Shepard to save it yet again, then I, as Shepard, sure as hell will protect the one necessary for me to find happiness during and after the war.


Because really, if you're just going to be a shell of a man after the fact, what's the point of saving the galaxy anyways? Extremely selfish way of looking at it, but with everyone he's trying to save's track record of inaction and sabotaging, and with all they've put him through, it's justified by now.



EDIT: Though, if it came down to the Migrant Fleet or Tali... There's no way that would ever stop hounding poor ol Shep.

Modifié par DoNotIngest, 23 octobre 2011 - 03:02 .

[Nashiktal]

Heh you made the same observations I did about the Asari DNI. I mean not only can they breed with anything, but they can breed multiple times with anything that has a nervous system over the course of one-thousand years, give or take depending on when or if they hit the barren stage.

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Nashiktal wrote...

Heh you made the same observations I did about the Asari DNI. I mean not only can they breed with anything, but they can breed multiple times with anything that has a nervous system over the course of one-thousand years, give or take depending on when or if they hit the barren stage.

Heh, thats why if I'm to sacrifice any species in ME3, asari are on the top of the list. Every other species in the galaxy has to worry about things like genetic diversity and inbreeding, you have one surviving asari and she can repopulate the whole species given enought time.

Modifié par HellBovine, 23 octobre 2011 - 04:17 .

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HellBovine wrote...

Nashiktal wrote...

Heh you made the same observations I did about the Asari DNI. I mean not only can they breed with anything, but they can breed multiple times with anything that has a nervous system over the course of one-thousand years, give or take depending on when or if they hit the barren stage.

Heh, thats why if I'm to sacrifice any species in ME3, asari are on the top of the list. Every other species in the galaxy has to worry about things like genetic diversity and inbreeding, you have one surviving asari and she can repopulate the whole species given enought time.

And with no ill effects on genetic diversity whatsoever, to boot.



Has there been any indication of the population of the universe? I'm just wondering if there really would be trillions of them (Wouldn't be ironic if Thessia's many, many billions to the trillions of Asari galaxy-wide, as about the same ratio as Tali, one Quarian, is to the 17 million of the fleet?). I mean, I think Asari are the ones to originally discover the Citadel, followed by Quarians; So they *should* have the most colonized worlds, yes? Add on that a significant portion of the population of *any* planet in any system anywhere is made of Asari, with their role as galactic peacekeepers and hottehs, and it might be possible that there really are that many.

I mean, there's at least a half dozen for every bar in the universe, no?