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[HellBovine]

DoNotIngest wrote...

I mean, there's at least a half dozen for every bar in the universe, no?

Strippers, strippers everywhere. 

[CommanderBadass]

Hell, I know I haven't logged on in a while, but with the earlier posts on this page, I'd condemn the entire batarian race to save Tali, My SHep's Wife. Hell I'd condemn all Geth for tali, and You know How I feel about Geth. Greatest. Species. Ever. next to tali and the quarians of course. It'd go something like this: Batarian guy: "But...but you can't just condemn an entire species for one quarian" my Shep: "I just did. See you in Hell" achievement unlocked: Undying Love. I'm replaying ME2, and this time, No Crew member(except the actual crew, like kelly and Dr. Chakwas, they knew exactly what the hell they were getting into when they signed on.) shall die. Not Zaeed, Not Grunt, not anyone, and Especially Not Tali.

[AdmiralCheez]

I am still really hoping Tali becomes an f/f option in ME3. I have a FemShep crushing on her sooo hard, and based on her dialogue and Shadow Broker data, I'd say Tali is crushing back.

It would be the cutest gudam thing ever.

[HellBovine]

AdmiralCheez wrote...

I am still really hoping Tali becomes an f/f option in ME3. I have a FemShep crushing on her sooo hard, and based on her dialogue and Shadow Broker data, I'd say Tali is crushing back.

It would be the cutest gudam thing ever.

It is likely that the Shadow Broker data is just an oversight and was only intended for people who romance her like other ones that unlock upon romancing.

Modifié par HellBovine, 23 octobre 2011 - 06:52 .

[Xilizhra]

HellBovine wrote...

AdmiralCheez wrote...

I am still really hoping Tali becomes an f/f option in ME3. I have a FemShep crushing on her sooo hard, and based on her dialogue and Shadow Broker data, I'd say Tali is crushing back.

It would be the cutest gudam thing ever.

It is likely that the Shadow Broker data is just an oversight and was only intended for people who romance her like other ones that unlock upon romancing.

Irrelevant. It exists and there's evidence. Also, there's some evidence in the dialogue itself.

[AdmiralCheez]

HellBovine wrote...

It is highly likely that the Shadow Broker data is just an oversight and was only intended for people who romance her.

Oversight or not, it's there.  And besides, Thane's romance-exclusive stuff worked fine, so obviously they were paying attention to that sort of thing.

Besides, F!Shep and Tali have a friendship just as deep as the one between F!Shep and Garrus at the end of ME2.  I can see love evolving out of that, and due to the suit-linking comment, she already trusts F!Shep with her body/health.  Since Tali has never overtly stated "I only like boys" or acted exclusively straight, not even during the romance, it's not a massive leap to say, "hey, it could happen."

At the end of the day, Dem Hips for everyone!

[CroGamer002]

Arcian wrote...

AdmiralCheez wrote...

I am still really hoping Tali becomes an f/f option in ME3. I have a FemShep crushing on her sooo hard, and based on her dialogue and Shadow Broker data, I'd say Tali is crushing back.

It would be the cutest gudam thing ever.

And for some reason I think it would feel slightly less creepy than the ManShep romance.

Why?

[JeffZero]

My girlfriend is a big ME fan but she doesn't get into it to the same extent that I do, ie posting on BSN all the time. So when she played ME2 she asked me if Tali was supposed to be a romance option for female Shepards after a certain little batch of dialogue she encountered.

Girlfriend's bi so I had to let her down gently with the whole "I'm afraid only Kelly's swinging the pole in that direction" talk but she's pretty convinced to this day that something's going on with Tali for both genders of Shepard, heh.

[Xilizhra]

Mesina2 wrote...

Arcian wrote...

AdmiralCheez wrote...

I am still really hoping Tali becomes an f/f option in ME3. I have a FemShep crushing on her sooo hard, and based on her dialogue and Shadow Broker data, I'd say Tali is crushing back.

It would be the cutest gudam thing ever.

And for some reason I think it would feel slightly less creepy than the ManShep romance.

Why?

Actually, let me dig out the long PM I wrote to someone who once had an issue with Tali... though it might be a bit on the creatively inflammatory side when it comes to Maleshep. Do you actually want to hear it?

[CroGamer002]

How come almost everyone I know on BSN is either bi/gay or knows someone close that is bi/gay?

[JeffZero]

Mesina2 wrote...

How come almost everyone I know on BSN is either bi/gay or knows someone close that is bi/gay?

There are a lot of 'em out there. I'm friends with a few and in a relationship with one. 

[AdmiralCheez]

Mesina2 wrote...

Why?

Meer says some of the lines just a liiiittle off.

Then again, if Hale goes all psycho-flirt again (dammit Jacob), it won't be any better on the female end, either.

[CroGamer002]

Xilizhra wrote...

Actually, let me dig out the long PM I wrote to someone who once had an issue with Tali... though it might be a bit on the creatively inflammatory side when it comes to Maleshep. Do you actually want to hear it?

Well I asked Arcian why he thinks it's less creepy with FemShept, but sure send me PM.

[Xilizhra]

Right, then.

Having just watched the Tali romance scenes... I think we've all been unfair to her romance. I know that some of her lines make it seem like a starstruck crush, but... it's not. It can't be. It makes no sense, because the implications of it all are, if I may go vulgar to make a point, ****ing huge.

To go into a personal aside, I'm allergic to milk, eggs, and peanuts, so growing up, I always had to watch out for what I ate. To this very day, I'm averse to trying new food and nervous about eating out if I can't see an ingredient list. Tali's been, as is mentioned a few times, stuck inside her suit her whole life. Even in the basically sterile Flotilla environment, a suit rupture or two could cause sickness, and elsewhere, it could wind up killing her. She's pushing past what has to be a cultural and ingrained mental barrier that's larger than what almost any of us have had to grow up with, to try being with Shepard, because she cares about him (or, in my case, her) that much. It's an astounding act of courage and trust, and one that I personally would probably never be able to do.

All the problems with the relationship are on Shepard's side. Mark Meer's flat delivery is annoying at the best of times, but here, it's astonishingly inappropriate. His drone gives no indication that he has a damned clue about what Tali's going through, and the rapeface-flashing expressions really, really don't help. For Maleshep players who see their character as an avatar, they can probably ignore this fairly easily, and I think this might be why Tali's fans are so passionate: it's because, as they're effectively seeing Tali's relationship as being with them, they do understand the implications. But we on the outside, just giving it a cursory look and seeing Maleshep as a character and not an avatar, see him being his usual emotionless gorilla self and Tali as just an idiot. And so we hate Tali's romance because, looking at it from the outside and seeing the combination of the characters presented, it really does suck quad. But the players only really see the good half, and because I mentally edited out Sheploo's presence, so did I.

[tyler1991991]

AdmiralCheez wrote...

I am still really hoping Tali becomes an f/f option in ME3. I have a FemShep crushing on her sooo hard, and based on her dialogue and Shadow Broker data, I'd say Tali is crushing back.

It would be the cutest gudam thing ever.

i kinda dont want her to be a same sex romance because i feel if you were to make any of the old characters BI ME2 would have been the time to do it imo. To make everyone BI is a cop-out imo i think its lazy and dosent really add anything to the character because they did that in DA2. If your gonna make a trilogy of games to change the characters like that the second game would be the time not the very last game. I feel that if Fem Shep romances her that there will be dialog between them that MShep wouldnt get and thats my fear.

[Xilizhra]

If your gonna make a trilogy of games to change the characters like that the second game would be the time not the very last game.

After screwing the pooch in the last two games, this is really all they can do.

[tyler1991991]

Xilizhra wrote...

If your gonna make a trilogy of games to change the characters like that the second game would be the time not the very last game.

After screwing the pooch in the last two games, this is really all they can do.

how did they mess it up?

[Xilizhra]

tyler1991991 wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

If your gonna make a trilogy of games to change the characters like that the second game would be the time not the very last game.

After screwing the pooch in the last two games, this is really all they can do.

how did they mess it up?

Not having anyone bisexual other than Liara.

[AdmiralCheez]

tyler1991991 wrote...

i kinda dont want her to be a same sex romance because i feel if you were to make any of the old characters BI ME2 would have been the time to do it imo. To make everyone BI is a cop-out imo i think its lazy and dosent really add anything to the character because they did that in DA2. If your gonna make a trilogy of games to change the characters like that the second game would be the time not the very last game. I feel that if Fem Shep romances her that there will be dialog between them that MShep wouldnt get and thats my fear.

Well, if they were going to make Tali and Garrus LIs, ME1 would have been the time to do it, don't you think?  Making them romanceable in ME2 didn't really add anything to their character and was obvious fanservice.

Seriously, though, it wouldn't be a "change" to the character, especially if you are still playing BroShep.  Tali's not going to dump you and go lusting after Kelly Chambers.  Nothing is being taken from you.

I doubt there would be any exclusive dialogue apart from the gender-specific, but m/m would get that, too, so it'd balance out.

[ADLegend21]

AdmiralCheez wrote...

tyler1991991 wrote...

i kinda dont want her to be a same sex romance because i feel if you were to make any of the old characters BI ME2 would have been the time to do it imo. To make everyone BI is a cop-out imo i think its lazy and dosent really add anything to the character because they did that in DA2. If your gonna make a trilogy of games to change the characters like that the second game would be the time not the very last game. I feel that if Fem Shep romances her that there will be dialog between them that MShep wouldnt get and thats my fear.

Well, if they were going to make Tali and Garrus LIs, ME1 would have been the time to do it, don't you think?  Making them romanceable in ME2 didn't really add anything to their character and was obvious fanservice.

Seriously, though, it wouldn't be a "change" to the character, especially if you are still playing BroShep.  Tali's not going to dump you and go lusting after Kelly Chambers.  Nothing is being taken from you.

I doubt there would be any exclusive dialogue apart from the gender-specific, but m/m would get that, too, so it'd balance out.

QFT.

[tyler1991991]

Xilizhra wrote...

Not having anyone bisexual other than Liara.

Maybe that was part of their character they are straight. Making everyone Bi imo is dumb it kinda takes away from Shepard's character too because then there is no individuality between Shepards just replacing he for she him for her and so on