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[Xilizhra]

tyler1991991 wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

Not having anyone bisexual other than Liara.

Maybe that was part of their character they are straight. Making everyone Bi imo is dumb it kinda takes away from Shepard's character too because then there is no individuality between Shepards just replacing he for she him for her and so on

We shall hope that Bioware disagrees with you.

[AdmiralCheez]

Cthulhu42 wrote...

The one thing I don't get is that if Tali was really bi, why wouldn't she hit on FemShep the same way she does ManShep? If she was interested in Shepard regardless of gender, wouldn't she want to take that opportunity?

Well, if she was crushing on Shepard in ME1, why didn't she say anything then?

I'm not completely against Tali being bi (still sticking with the straight romance myself though), but if she was, why couldn't FemShep romance her in ME2?

There were actually going to be more bi options in ME2, Tali included, but they chickened out for the same reason that we only got bra-shots and dry humping.  OH NOES, THE CONTROVERSY.

[Cheese of Borg]

DoNotIngest wrote...

Shepard better get floored by a Tali pounce-hug as soon as she sees him. My only wish.

Her renegade score is'nt high enough. 

[tyler1991991]

AdmiralCheez wrote...

tyler1991991 wrote...

i kinda dont want her to be a same sex romance because i feel if you were to make any of the old characters BI ME2 would have been the time to do it imo. To make everyone BI is a cop-out imo i think its lazy and dosent really add anything to the character because they did that in DA2. If your gonna make a trilogy of games to change the characters like that the second game would be the time not the very last game. I feel that if Fem Shep romances her that there will be dialog between them that MShep wouldnt get and thats my fear.

Well, if they were going to make Tali and Garrus LIs, ME1 would have been the time to do it, don't you think?  Making them romanceable in ME2 didn't really add anything to their character and was obvious fanservice.

Seriously, though, it wouldn't be a "change" to the character, especially if you are still playing BroShep.  Tali's not going to dump you and go lusting after Kelly Chambers.  Nothing is being taken from you.

I doubt there would be any exclusive dialogue apart from the gender-specific, but m/m would get that, too, so it'd balance out.

True Tali and Garrus were added because of the fans in ME2. My fear is just it might lessen the characters if it dosent and they are still the same old same old then i have no problem with it

[shepskisaac]

tyler1991991 wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

Not having anyone bisexual other than Liara.

Maybe that was part of their character they are straight. Making everyone Bi imo is dumb it kinda takes away from Shepard's character too because then there is no individuality between Shepards just replacing he for she him for her and so on

And making Tali hot for ManShep no matter if he's an angel or a woman-beater sociopath who made her life a hell in ME1 is even dumber, but I don't see you complaining about that.

[CroGamer002]

I don't know, but I just wouldn't like for her to be Bi.


Just feels, wrong for me.

[tyler1991991]

IsaacShep wrote...

tyler1991991 wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

Not having anyone bisexual other than Liara.

Maybe that was part of their character they are straight. Making everyone Bi imo is dumb it kinda takes away from Shepard's character too because then there is no individuality between Shepards just replacing he for she him for her and so on

And making Tali hot for ManShep no matter if he's an angel or a woman-beater sociopath who made her life a hell in ME1 is even dumber, but I don't see you complaining about that.

i would complain about that i would never do it and i dont see why others would. I agree if you were a dick to her she should be a dick back  and not be able to romance her unless you do ALOT of convincing and stuff to proove to her you changed .

Modifié par tyler1991991, 23 octobre 2011 - 07:31 .

[AdmiralCheez]

tyler1991991 wrote...

True Tali and Garrus were added because of the fans in ME2. My fear is just it might lessen the characters if it dosent and they are still the same old same old then i have no problem with it

If you are okay with how Tali and Garrus changed from ME1 to ME2, you will be okay with theleap from ME2 to ME3.

[Xilizhra]

I don't recall any woman-beating options in either game.

Al-Jilani, anyone?

[AdmiralCheez]

Cthulhu42 wrote...

I'm really wondering how they would implement any ME3 romances for previous characters, gay or straight. If they happen over the course of the game, then does that mean that those of us who already romanced them don't get any romance dialogue up to the point in ME3 when someone could have completed a new romance with them? Because I don't want to spend half the game hearing about engine cleaning and calibrations.

Nah, enough people b*tched about the calibrations that the devs pretty much promised infinite dialogue for Garrus.

[ADLegend21]

Mesina2 wrote...

I don't know, but I just wouldn't like for her to be Bi.


Just feels, wrong for me.

Her trying to jump my Shepard as soon as she gets on the ship is weird for me, especially if you're rude to her in ME1. makes me think her standards are pretty low.

[JeffZero]

AdmiralCheez wrote...

Cthulhu42 wrote...

I'm really wondering how they would implement any ME3 romances for previous characters, gay or straight. If they happen over the course of the game, then does that mean that those of us who already romanced them don't get any romance dialogue up to the point in ME3 when someone could have completed a new romance with them? Because I don't want to spend half the game hearing about engine cleaning and calibrations.

Nah, enough people b*tched about the calibrations that the devs pretty much promised infinite dialogue for Garrus.

I feel like some people are going to wind up coming around to the calibrations in their own sense-making ways once the trilogy is complete, so long as Garrus does indeed have plenty more dialogue in ME3.

"He was at a difficult time in his life. He closed himself off from the world but maintained the loyalty to Shepard."

[tyler1991991]

AdmiralCheez wrote...

tyler1991991 wrote...

True Tali and Garrus were added because of the fans in ME2. My fear is just it might lessen the characters if it dosent and they are still the same old same old then i have no problem with it

If you are okay with how Tali and Garrus changed from ME1 to ME2, you will be okay with theleap from ME2 to ME3.

If they dont ruine her character and do it in a believable way then i wouldnt. I dont agree that they should but its bioware character

[shepskisaac]

tyler1991991 wrote...

I agree if you were a dick to her she should be a dick back  and not be able to romance her unless you do ALOT of convincing and stuff to proove to her you changed and stuff.

But she is available for romance no matter what thus the 'realism of availability' argument does not apply to ME romances. If straight ManShep can have 90% of his female squaddies be into him no matter if he's handsome or butt-ugly and no matter if he's holier than thou or an antichrist which has absolutely nothing to due with realism and it's pure fanservice, then so should FemShep, GayShep & LesShep have as much options.

[DoNotIngest]

Mesina2 wrote...

Arcian wrote...

AdmiralCheez wrote...

I am still really hoping Tali becomes an f/f option in ME3. I have a FemShep crushing on her sooo hard, and based on her dialogue and Shadow Broker data, I'd say Tali is crushing back.

It would be the cutest gudam thing ever.

And for some reason I think it would feel slightly less creepy than the ManShep romance.

Why?

Recently (Past few months), male Bioware PCs are creepy if they romance a woman. Shepard, Hawke, it's all the same. Well, according to some people, it seems.


I don't care if Tali is made an option for femShep in ME3, would definitely youtube it if it was anything different. But if they do take that route, they better have a little explanation (IE; prolonged form of Tali's crushing on Shep from ME1). Not that I don't trust that they would have something like that.

[AdmiralCheez]

JeffZero wrote...

I feel like some people are going to wind up coming around to the calibrations in their own sense-making ways once the trilogy is complete, so long as Garrus does indeed have plenty more dialogue in ME3.

"He was at a difficult time in his life. He closed himself off from the world but maintained the loyalty to Shepard."

Nah, my excuse is, was, and forever shall be "the devs underestimated how much people talk to the squadmates."

Especially since Garrus is the most obnoxiously chatty squaddie on the battlefield.  And the loudest.

Tali lacked dialogue, too, but it wasn't as much of a problem since she was recruited much later in the game.

[AdmiralCheez]

Cthulhu42 wrote...

That's good to hear, but it doesn't really answer my question. In ME3, will I not get any romance-specific dialogue with Tali/Garrus/Liara until the point when someone romancing them for the first time has "caught up" to my point in the relationship? Or will carried-over romances get exclusive romance conversations that first-time romances won't?

You'll probably get exclusive carry-over dialogue.

[shepskisaac]

Cthulhu42 wrote...

Well, Tali's not available if you're a **** and hand over the evidence in her loyalty mission. Or side with Legion in the argument.

But she's available no matter how badly you treated her in ME1. Conclusion: actions from previous game(s) don't matter as Tali shows.

cacharadon wrote...

simple if you were a dick then that means you were not interested in that character in the 1st place, or you were just roleplaying as commander dick shepard. If it was the 1st case then you have no reason to romance Tali or even converse wit her all that much, so the whole point of Tali being hot for your character can be bypassed. If it was the second case and/or you feel like talking with each squadmate to get every scrap of dialogue then Tali's dialogue can be put down to a crush on the big badass hero of the citadel, afterall she was what? 19 in the 1st game? and 21 in the second. Hardly what I'd call mature and level headed.

Ohh. So Tali's crush on sociopath ManShep is great but god forbid if she had a crush on nice FemShep? This is not about Shepard. This is about Tali. She was in love with ManShep no matter what. That's the point.

Modifié par IsaacShep, 23 octobre 2011 - 07:44 .

[CroGamer002]

ADLegend21 wrote...

Her trying to jump my Shepard as soon as she gets on the ship is weird for me, especially if you're rude to her in ME1. makes me think her standards are pretty low.

She only said she has interests on Shepard and wasn't direct with it and that's AFTER you do her loyalty mission.

So I don't get where did you get that.


I think you were talking about ME1 Liara there.