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[Quole]

Saphra Deden wrote...

Quole wrote...

Wouldnt they be essentially getting that closure anyway?

No, because they'll never know what happened there. Nobody will except Tali, Shepard, and possibly Han Gerrel. The truth will have been covered up.

indeed, they will not know for SURE But....

1. Everyone seems to assume it was Talis fault. Except for a few of the admirals, most people seem to assume it was Tali.

2. They were all involved in illegal research and all played their part in what Rael was doing.... so wouldnt they all be considered criminals? Isnt it better for their relatives to know that they WERENT a part of it? Like I said, Rael was certainly not the only one responsible.

Modifié par Quole, 24 octobre 2011 - 05:41 .

[Quole]

Saphra Deden wrote...

Quole wrote...


1. Everyone seems to assume it was Talis fault. Except for a few of the admirals, most people seem to assume it was Tali.

Your point being?

Quole wrote...

2. They were all involved in illegal research and all played their part what in Rael was doing.... so wouldnt they all be considered criminals? Isnt it better for their relatives to know that they WERENT a part of it? Like I said, Rael was certainly not the only one responsible.

No, only the people in charge would be considered criminals. The peopel who knew exactly what they were doing. Most of their subordinates would just be following orders and wouldn't know about hte full depth of the research.

You ever hear of the Chain of Command?

1. My POINT is that they would still be getting SOME closure.
2.That is quite the assumption. Looking at what we can see on video logs on the alerai, it seems obvious that everyone knew what they were working on. Theres no way to PROVE that one way or another so it it is certainly POSSIBLE they were all criminals there.

Modifié par Quole, 24 octobre 2011 - 05:46 .

[Codyacsmith]

Can't we just talk about Tali and not socio-political s-hitstorms.

[Quole]

Well we could start a new thread for it.. but it would likely just turn into a Tali hate thread.

[Quole]

Saphra Deden wrote...

Quole wrote...

.1. My POINT is that they would still be getting SOME closure.

Sure, if she gets exiled. However why should they only get some closure instead of full closure? Why should Rael be allowed to escape justice?

Quole wrote...

2.That is quite the assumption. Looking at what we can see on video logs on the alerai, it seems obvious that everyone knew what they were working on.

Uh, no. You saw what, three logs? Only the last log stated anything illegal. There were a hell of a lot of bodies on that ship. A lot of the people working there wouldn't have any knowledge about hte full scope of the project. It was a military operation and the military operates on a need to know basis. Most people there don't need to know. Not to mention that the lab being a ship necessitates many people working there purely to keep the ship running and orderly and having nothing otherwise to do with the research.

read what I added. I still believe everyone there knew what they were doing.

[Sethan_1]

The people on the Alarei were working on active Geth. All the logs we see show everyone on board knew they were working on active Geth. The Admiralty Board considered doing so treason, and sufficient to charge Tali with treason. "I was only following orders" is not a valid defense when being ordered to commit treason or a war crime. So, all of the people we know of on board the Alarei were guilty of treason - not just Tali's father. They're also all dead - so none of them are going to actually be charged.

Modifié par Sethan_1, 24 octobre 2011 - 05:54 .

[Homebound]

tali is the bestest quarian a Shepard could ever have!

Modifié par Hellbound555, 24 octobre 2011 - 05:59 .

[Quole]

Saphra Deden wrote...

Quole wrote...

read what I added. I still believe everyone there knew what they were doing.

No, why don't you post it here again?

You don't understand how a project like that, especially one run by a military, works. The little people at the bottom just do their job.  They just work on repairing on geth part, or testing on program, or organizing one thing. Only the project leads would know exactly what was being done and/or anyone involved in the actual networking of the geth.

In fact, one of the logs clearly demonstrates this when a woman is seen reacting with shock when told that the geth have been networked. Clearly she didn't know what was going on.

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[Homebound]

Thread needs more happyfuntime.

Team dextro like a baws

[Homebound]

remember how this thread used to be about how much we all loved tali?

good times.

[Quole]

I love Tali.

Modifié par Quole, 24 octobre 2011 - 06:08 .

[Sethan_1]

Saphra Deden wrote...

In fact, one of the logs clearly demonstrates this when a woman is seen reacting with shock when told that the geth have been networked. Clearly she didn't know what was going on.

Actually, her shock isn't when she is told they are networked.  Her shock is when she realizes they are in the ship's computers.  Her question to the other quarian is specifically "how many Geth are networked?"  The response is "All of them"

So, she knew they were working on active geth, and knew they were networked, before she asked the question.

[Homebound]

i wonder what intrepid quarian adventures our tali has been in the last 6months the game had time passing in it between games.

[Homebound]

i wonder what wouldve happened if tali found out about her fathers experiments before he died...

[Sethan_1]

Tali isn't charged with networking Geth. She is charged with "bringing active Geth aboard the Fleet." That is considered treason. The researchers in the above log knew the Geth were active. That they also knew the Geth had been networked isn't even relevant. As to crew size, while you are likely right, we don't know that. The only "innocent" deaths out of this that we know for certain would be those of the marines who tried to retake the ship. Regardless, all of the people involved in committing the crimes are dead, and you don't charge dead people with crimes.

[Homebound]

can tali build a supercomputer out of 3 pizza boxes 2 cans of hairspray and a paperclip?

[Homebound]

Hellbound555 wrote...

tali is the bestest quarian a Shepard could ever have!

i thought this was worth posting again, i feel like we're getting off topic.