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[Nashiktal]

Rokku-X wrote...

Nashiktal wrote...

Rokku-X wrote...

DoNotIngest wrote...

I think Shepard would stop and wonder for a second what kind of effects that would have on a Shepard in boxers, if it's enough to take down an armoured Turian who has thick plates over his ding dong.


And so Submissive!Shepard came to be.

Well, Grunt did mention that Quarians are "tougher" than humans. One should be in awe and slight fear of those legs anyhow.

I always figured that meant the quarians suit.

I'm pretty sure he says physically, but even with that added in there, and even in context, it's a hard comment to interpret. Either way, with legs like that she probably kicks like a kangaroo.

No he never specifies physically. All he says is that quarians are not so soft, no context at all. Can't really be counted for anything really.

[Nashiktal]

ZenJestr wrote...

I don't think Grunt means with the suit. He was given information from a guy who was likely almost a thousand years old. I'm pretty sure he was given imprints on quarians outside of the suit (because saying that a suit meant to protect a person from anything and everything is tougher than the natural hide of other creatures is kind of obvious).

Er what? Okeer might have been old, but if anything he would want to give grunt the most up to date information available. Telling grunt that quarians are soft but not accounting for the suit would be silly for his perfect soldier. So grunt saying quarians are not so soft (and considering quarians are almost never out of their sutes) could be taken a number of ways.

So again I will have to say that grunt's statement is inconclusive until more information is available.

Modifié par Nashiktal, 02 novembre 2011 - 08:42 .

[ZenJestr]

true, I can see your point...


I just interpret it as saying "quarians are tougher to kill than asari, humans, etc." without the suit because I think it's unnecessary to mention the durability of the armor when other races also wear armor.

[Rokku-X]

It's probably safer to assume, like I said in the last response and Nash has echoed, that even in context the comment is difficult to interpret. There's points to be made in regards to it talking purely about the Quarians or the Quarians + enviro-suits. Kind of a moot point to keep going back and forth on it, Grunt's comment was odd to begin with, and anyone can keep spinning it in circles until the sun fizzles out.

[DoNotIngest]

Um... I'm pretty sure it was Wrex, not Grunt. In a Presidium elevator.

Modifié par DoNotIngest, 02 novembre 2011 - 09:20 .

[Runescapeguy9]

Ravensword wrote...

Hellbound555 wrote...

<taliKICK>

shes got legs that would put a velociraptor to shame.

That could happen to Garrus. Where'd you get this image?

More than likely from my album.

[Rokku-X]

DoNotIngest wrote...

Um... I'm pretty sure it was Wrex, not Grunt. In a Presidium elevator.

There might've been a similar conversation? I can't rightly remember, but the one in question was definitely ME2. Just finished a playthrough a couple days ago for the heck of it, and the conversation in question is definitely with Grunt.

Modifié par Rokku-X, 02 novembre 2011 - 09:31 .

[howl3d]

yeah i remember that. it is the 2 or 3 talk with him

[Nashiktal]

ZenJestr wrote...

true, I can see your point...


I just interpret it as saying "quarians are tougher to kill than asari, humans, etc." without the suit because I think it's unnecessary to mention the durability of the armor when other races also wear armor.

True but other races don't wear their armor like a second skin.

[Nashiktal]

Cthulhu42 wrote...

Nashiktal wrote...

ZenJestr wrote...

true, I can see your point...


I just interpret it as saying "quarians are tougher to kill than asari, humans, etc." without the suit because I think it's unnecessary to mention the durability of the armor when other races also wear armor.

True but other races don't wear their armor like a second skin.

Well, in another conversation Grunt mentions how you almost never see turians out of their armour.

Wasn't that also the same conversation where he was talking about (whats the word.. Not molesting...) but hacking and damaging a dead naked body of a turian?

[Nashiktal]

Cthulhu42 wrote...

Nashiktal wrote...

Cthulhu42 wrote...

Nashiktal wrote...

ZenJestr wrote...

true, I can see your point...


I just interpret it as saying "quarians are tougher to kill than asari, humans, etc." without the suit because I think it's unnecessary to mention the durability of the armor when other races also wear armor.

True but other races don't wear their armor like a second skin.

Well, in another conversation Grunt mentions how you almost never see turians out of their armour.

Wasn't that also the same conversation where he was talking about (whats the word.. Not molesting...) but hacking and damaging a dead naked body of a turian?

Yes, it was.

I think I would have to dispute grunt on this, we see plenty of turians without armor. They wear that silly robe looking thing. I will say they look much better in armor though.

[Rokku-X]

Nashiktal wrote...

(whats the word.. Not molesting...) but hacking and damaging a dead naked body of a turian?

Desecrating?

Also, that conversation kind of had me thinking that Grunt was some sort of sociopath to begin with. But he turned out to be a pretty cool dude.

[Nashiktal]

Rokku-X wrote...

Nashiktal wrote...

(whats the word.. Not molesting...) but hacking and damaging a dead naked body of a turian?

Desecrating?

Also, that conversation kind of had me thinking that Grunt was some sort of sociopath to begin with. But he turned out to be a pretty cool dude.

Thats the word! Thanks mate that was bugging me to no end.

[DoNotIngest]

Ravaging came to mind for me... ;P



I wish we got to see more badass Quarians, considering we're meant to believe they're tough. I mean, I know Prazza&Co. were idiots, but a large squad of Quarians completely wiped out by one mech? The other Marines on Haestrom get a pass for being zerg'd by Geth, but really, it'd have been nice to see some corpses other than Quarians there. You'd think they'd have taken down quite a few Geth before they bit it.

Then there are the Quarians on the Alerei. I do believe that was a massacre with plenty of evidence of Quarian casualties, and not so much for disabled Geth, yes? Plus they apparently spammed the airlock entrance with Marines, to horrendous losses, whereas Shep, Tali & Buddy of Choice clear out the whole flippin' thing on their lonesome.


Bioware obviously wants us to think Quarians are tough, with Grunt's convo as well as Tali's "I have a shotgun", not to mention Tali & Reegar themselves. It'd be nice if there were more than just two very capable ones shown, though.

[sites32]

Rokku-X wrote...

Nashiktal wrote...

(whats the word.. Not molesting...) but hacking and damaging a dead naked body of a turian?

Desecrating?

Also, that conversation kind of had me thinking that Grunt was some sort of sociopath to begin with. But he turned out to be a pretty cool dude.

That conversation segment was a bit strange. but I thought it was funny that shepards paragon option was "I don't think i'm coming back down to talk anymore" or something.

[DoNotIngest]

Just saying, it wouldn't hurt to see a random, nameless Quarian standing up for themselves or holding their own, y'know? I mean, there's the guy on Omega, Lia and the girl on Illium, as well. Seems every non-combatant Quarian outside the Fleet has been preyed upon by someone, and while I know Shepard is Shepard and he helps the underdogs at every turn, the other races get chances to show some nerve; Why not the ones who are supposed to be the most independant (away from the Fleet, at least)?

[T.Attwood]

DoNotIngest wrote...
Bioware obviously wants us to think Quarians are tough, with Grunt's convo as well as Tali's "I have a shotgun", not to mention Tali & Reegar themselves. It'd be nice if there were more than just two very capable ones shown, though.

One reason to explain this, may be that most, if not all, of the Quarian military units have been wiped out fighting the Geth over the last 300 years. The ones that are left are the civilians who have no other choice but to pick up a weapon and fight for the survival of the Quarian race.
    Additionally, it does make you wonder what effect the war has had on the Gene pool. The physically strongest Quarians are likely to have been involved with the military early on, and are likely to have been wiped out. The ones that didn't join the military at the time were probably those who had other qualities, like intelligence, and so were best used elsewhere in society. But now, they are the only ones left.

Modifié par T.Attwood, 02 novembre 2011 - 11:36 .

[sites32]

@T.Attwood
Its possible. Even more of a reason NOT to go a pick a fight with Geth. As passionate as the Quarians are about Rannoch and getting it back, to go to war with Geth is not only a mistake, it is suicide. Only way Quarians would have a chance is that they have support. Tali knows it would be a bad move, she wants her house on the homeworld, but not at the cost of more slaughter.

[Nashiktal]

T.Attwood wrote...

DoNotIngest wrote...
Bioware obviously wants us to think Quarians are tough, with Grunt's convo as well as Tali's "I have a shotgun", not to mention Tali & Reegar themselves. It'd be nice if there were more than just two very capable ones shown, though.

One reason to explain this, may be that most, if not all, of the Quarian military units have been wiped out fighting the Geth over the last 300 years. The ones that are left are the civilians who have no other choice but to pick up a weapon and fight for the survival of the Quarian race.
    Additionally, it does make you wonder what effect the war has had on the Gene pool. The physically strongest Quarians are likely to have been involved with the military early on, and are likely to have been wiped out. The ones that didn't join the military at the time were probably those who had other qualities, like intelligence, and so were best used elsewhere in society. But now, they are the only ones left.

Police more specifically. The quarians operated as a police state after the morning war. Although I contest the genetic argument you are bringing.

Most don't start strong in the military, they become it.

Modifié par Nashiktal, 02 novembre 2011 - 11:59 .

[Ravensword]

I wanna see some Quarian enemies in ME3. There haven't been any Quarian enemies. I wanna see if I can shatter a Quarian's visor w/ the Widow so I can see what they look like, that is if they're faces haven't been turned to chunky salsa.

Modifié par Ravensword, 03 novembre 2011 - 12:09 .

[Golden Owl]

A question for Tali Fans....I recently completed my Renegon for ME3....He brokered for Quarian/Geth peace on the Flotilla....intimidated the Quarians into not exiling Tali, hugged her, etc...but lost her loyalty during her confrontation with Legion...Do you think losing Tali's loyalty will have negative ramifications on Sheps push for peace between the Quarians and Geth?