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[Killjoy Cutter]

Ravensword wrote...

Quole wrote...

Hellbound555 wrote...

ZenJestr wrote...

if a human and a quarian can have sex, I'm pretty sure 2 dextro-amino acid species can, too

on top of that, they can haz babies.

I know you are probably trolling, but just in case people take it seriously... No they cant.

I want genetically engineered crazy babies. Combining Turian DNA w/ Quarian DNA and you get the offspring that has all of their strengths and none of their weaknesses.

Even that might not be possible.

Your best bet for a genetically engineered cross-species child is to analyze the father's genetic makeup, identify the desired genetic components, and then find the equivalents in the genome of the mother's species, then in some ways combine those genes with the mother's. 

[Ravensword]

Killjoy Cutter wrote...

Ravensword wrote...

Quole wrote...

Hellbound555 wrote...

ZenJestr wrote...

if a human and a quarian can have sex, I'm pretty sure 2 dextro-amino acid species can, too

on top of that, they can haz babies.

I know you are probably trolling, but just in case people take it seriously... No they cant.

I want genetically engineered crazy babies. Combining Turian DNA w/ Quarian DNA and you get the offspring that has all of their strengths and none of their weaknesses.

Even that might not be possible.

Your best bet for a genetically engineered cross-species child is to analyze the father's genetic makeup, identify the desired genetic components, and then find the equivalents in the genome of the mother's species, then in some ways combine those genes with the mother's. 

Good. You appear to be apt for this endeavor. Make it so.

[Nashiktal]

I have to ask you guys, if you ever seriously roleplay, as in you are actually thinking from sheps position while playing the game, do you actually bring tali along very often? I ask this because when I am looking at it from sheps position, romance or no, I am usually unsure whether to bring tali or not.

Looking at tali from a strictly CO position... She has great tech and engineering skills not doubt, resourceful when need be and stubborn, and she can hold her own in a fight. However while she can hold her own, she is still "fragile" and suit ruptures are a constant threat. Her combat skills are only suited for certain situations (ignoring gameplay mechanics here) and she brings invaluable quarians ship knowledge to maintain the normandy. If romancing you can add on additional worries like emotions getting in the way of duty or some sort.

She just seems like for "normal" missions she would do more good working on the normandy that getting boots down planetside with shep and his squad. She is to me, a specialist character who you bring with you when you know you need her knowledge, instead of say garrus who has a wide utility of uses for various situations.

What do you guys think?

[DoNotIngest]

Ever since Shep witnessed Colossi Tali in ME1, he has come to realize that she can probably take care of herself better than he can.



In fact, in backing up his memories to a greybox, Cerberus found out his thoughts on the subject. It's the real reason why he got so many upgrades. Confidence boost.

Arcian wrote...

Ticktank wrote...

Can't wait for the pathetic display of virtual jealousy by the sea of Talimancer nerds, should the pairing still exist on release.

People are misinterpreting it. They're just good friends teasing each other.

Of course, that's how it always starts...

Err, I read something about Shep walking in on them and them being all embarrassed and awkward, and something about one of Garrus' mandibles getting hooked on Tali's helmet...

[NeroSparda]

Nashiktal wrote...

I have to ask you guys, if you ever seriously roleplay, as in you are actually thinking from sheps position while playing the game, do you actually bring tali along very often? I ask this because when I am looking at it from sheps position, romance or no, I am usually unsure whether to bring tali or not.

Looking at tali from a strictly CO position... She has great tech and engineering skills not doubt, resourceful when need be and stubborn, and she can hold her own in a fight. However while she can hold her own, she is still "fragile" and suit ruptures are a constant threat. Her combat skills are only suited for certain situations (ignoring gameplay mechanics here) and she brings invaluable quarians ship knowledge to maintain the normandy. If romancing you can add on additional worries like emotions getting in the way of duty or some sort.

She just seems like for "normal" missions she would do more good working on the normandy that getting boots down planetside with shep and his squad. She is to me, a specialist character who you bring with you when you know you need her knowledge, instead of say garrus who has a wide utility of uses for various situations.

What do you guys think?

My Shepard doesn't care how fragile a soldier is, they won't be cruddled and are expected to lift the overall weight, whether it be technical, combat, etc. Actually, he believes that her suit can handle itself during the heat of combat while Tali avoid any stationary object that will cut into it. If the suit does rupture, Shepard and whoever else is in the squad in the time will provide cover fire while she does her thing. Note that my Shepard is in a relationship with Tali.

[tyler1991991]

Nashiktal wrote...

I have to ask you guys, if you ever seriously roleplay, as in you are actually thinking from sheps position while playing the game, do you actually bring tali along very often? I ask this because when I am looking at it from sheps position, romance or no, I am usually unsure whether to bring tali or not.

Looking at tali from a strictly CO position... She has great tech and engineering skills not doubt, resourceful when need be and stubborn, and she can hold her own in a fight. However while she can hold her own, she is still "fragile" and suit ruptures are a constant threat. Her combat skills are only suited for certain situations (ignoring gameplay mechanics here) and she brings invaluable quarians ship knowledge to maintain the normandy. If romancing you can add on additional worries like emotions getting in the way of duty or some sort.

She just seems like for "normal" missions she would do more good working on the normandy that getting boots down planetside with shep and his squad. She is to me, a specialist character who you bring with you when you know you need her knowledge, instead of say garrus who has a wide utility of uses for various situations.

What do you guys think?

Yes and No
If I was Shepard I wouldnt bring her on alot of missions because I would be worried about her health dont want her to get sick....... without me causing it . But if I have to bring her like on the suicide mission then I would rather her be with me that way I can protect her than her being away from me were if something happens I cant do anything to stop it but thats if I was actually Shepard. Plus I would bring her anything involving Geth since she is an expert.

Modifié par tyler1991991, 14 novembre 2011 - 10:10 .

[exelsis]

Nashiktal wrote...

I have to ask you guys, if you ever seriously roleplay, as in you are actually thinking from sheps position while playing the game, do you actually bring tali along very often? I ask this because when I am looking at it from sheps position, romance or no, I am usually unsure whether to bring tali or not.

Looking at tali from a strictly CO position... She has great tech and engineering skills not doubt, resourceful when need be and stubborn, and she can hold her own in a fight. However while she can hold her own, she is still "fragile" and suit ruptures are a constant threat. Her combat skills are only suited for certain situations (ignoring gameplay mechanics here) and she brings invaluable quarians ship knowledge to maintain the normandy. If romancing you can add on additional worries like emotions getting in the way of duty or some sort.

She just seems like for "normal" missions she would do more good working on the normandy that getting boots down planetside with shep and his squad. She is to me, a specialist character who you bring with you when you know you need her knowledge, instead of say garrus who has a wide utility of uses for various situations.

What do you guys think?

I think that the greatest possible thing I could do for a person is invest my wellbeaing within them. Like tali is opening herself up for a possible lethal infection for shepard, my shep is willing to put his life in her hands. Also, it isn't like you could shield her from harm. The safest place in the galaxy seems to be at shepard's side anyway. Finally, I wouldn't be one to try and cage something to keep it "safe". I'd rather have her with me, no matter what the circumstance.

[ZenJestr]

Cthulhu42 wrote...

You guys are all putting way too much thought into it. The way I see it is "if I bring Tali more, I'll get more Tali dialogue." It's as simple as that.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^


but the question was posed from a primarily "besides gameplay reasons" standpoint...

if that's the case then....I just want Tali to be by my side as much as I can...that's my Shep's logic. 

[Nashiktal]

exelsis wrote...

Nashiktal wrote...

I have to ask you guys, if you ever seriously roleplay, as in you are actually thinking from sheps position while playing the game, do you actually bring tali along very often? I ask this because when I am looking at it from sheps position, romance or no, I am usually unsure whether to bring tali or not.

Looking at tali from a strictly CO position... She has great tech and engineering skills not doubt, resourceful when need be and stubborn, and she can hold her own in a fight. However while she can hold her own, she is still "fragile" and suit ruptures are a constant threat. Her combat skills are only suited for certain situations (ignoring gameplay mechanics here) and she brings invaluable quarians ship knowledge to maintain the normandy. If romancing you can add on additional worries like emotions getting in the way of duty or some sort.

She just seems like for "normal" missions she would do more good working on the normandy that getting boots down planetside with shep and his squad. She is to me, a specialist character who you bring with you when you know you need her knowledge, instead of say garrus who has a wide utility of uses for various situations.

What do you guys think?

I think that the greatest possible thing I could do for a person is invest my wellbeaing within them. Like tali is opening herself up for a possible lethal infection for shepard, my shep is willing to put his life in her hands. Also, it isn't like you could shield her from harm. The safest place in the galaxy seems to be at shepard's side anyway. Finally, I wouldn't be one to try and cage something to keep it "safe". I'd rather have her with me, no matter what the circumstance.

I don't quite get what you are saying. I am caging tali by letting her work on the ship and brining more capable and less specialize team members with me?

Reading the replies I don't think you guys are getting what I am asking. I am not saying Tali is weak. I am saying that from a story standpoint she may not be the best person to bring along. Tali is an engineer, she does her best work when given INTELLECTUAL challenges rather than putting her in the line of fire. Which is why I think she is best on the normandy. She will keep that ship going and doing precision jumps even if her only tools are wire and gum.

Another point to make is that if tali does suffer a suit rupture, she can and probably will get sick. Any amount of sickness can potentially lessen her ability to do her job. (remember outside gameplay here!) I just don't see a reason to bring her into battle, especially if you are romancing her, outside of specific specialized scenerios. You have a ship full of more combat oriented characters (several of which have more utility outside of just combat. Again Garrus as an example)

Its not coddling, not caging, (and by that logic by not allowing grunt to go out and fight you are caging him!) its just, to me, being smart.

Modifié par Nashiktal, 14 novembre 2011 - 11:01 .

[PseudoEthnic]

I can see where Nash is coming from, and I agree. I only bring Tali with me during either Geth or Blue Suns missions. Other times, she stays on the ship.

Modifié par PseudoEthnic, 14 novembre 2011 - 11:23 .

[DoNotIngest]

Hm. Well then, my Shepard is a lonely, selfish bastard who doesn't give a damn about who's better suited to the missions. Having old faces (err... Helmets?) like Garrus & Tali with him makes the voices in his head a little quieter, so he takes them on all his missions and screw the consequences.

[DoNotIngest]

Oh, and here's something random off DA for the TotP...

Modifié par DoNotIngest, 15 novembre 2011 - 01:05 .

[Someone With Mass]

Hey, want to know one line of ME3 Tali dialogue?

I have a few.

[S.A.K]

^^Yeah sure!

[Ruthac_Arus]

Hrmm. Bringing Tali along for missions from an RP standpoint, my primary character is with her, and figures several reasons are good for bringing her along on almost every mission.

1. Even when he's in the middle of the action, around him is still the safest place to be. He might've doubted that at one point, but somewhere along the line, after facing down a few thousand opponents and not losing squadmates in groundside combat (not counting Jenkins), he's rather more confident.

2. Bringing Tali along is motivation to mop up foes in the most efficient way possible. Headshot after headshot. And whatever celestial beings are onlooking have mercy on the aggressor(s) if Tali *does* get hurt- 'cause he won't. Case in point, the Shadow Broker went down hard after KOing Tali, and the Geth Prime on the Alarei became fodder in exceedingly short order after receiving the double motivation of seeing Tali sad and exchanging a Power Up hug. 

3. Her drone is pretty darned useful, particularly for lining up headshots or momentarily distracting that Geth Prime or Scion barreling down the hall unchecked.

4. Between the Reapers, Collectors, and half the mercs in the Terminus gunning for Shepard, he figures neither Tali nor him may live to see the end of it. She already spent two years thinking he was gone for good, and is not going to waste whatever opportunities remaining that they have to be together.

Oh, and in-character, he'd order her to stay under cover a lot more than the squadmate AI allows her to. A lot less risk when she's got uber shields, and from an RP standpoint, she never mentions being bothered by a suit rupture aside from taking "some fire on the Alarei". She's a lot more careful than the squadmate AI lets on.

Modifié par Ruthac_Arus, 15 novembre 2011 - 03:53 .

[Someone With Mass]

S.A.K wrote...

^^Yeah sure!

Pulled from the beta leak, so they might be a bit outdated.

Ha! No, the only person who gets inside my suit is you.

or

For the Idenna!

or

This is Rannoch, the world of our ancestors. Our bodies carried the seeds that spread the desert grass.

or, one of my favorites:

You've heard me say, "Keelah se'lai"? The best translation I can come up with is, "By the homeworld I hope to see someday."

I have some other dialogues, but they'd be a bit too spoilerish for my taste.

Modifié par Someone With Mass, 15 novembre 2011 - 03:53 .

[S.A.K]

I always wondered what Keelah se'lai ment. Thanks for that.

[Ruthac_Arus]

Someone With Mass wrote...

Pulled from the beta leak, so they might be a bit outdated.

Ha! No, the only person who gets inside my suit is you.

or

For the Idenna!

or

This is Rannoch, the world of our ancestors. Our bodies carried the seeds that spread the desert grass.

or, one of my favorites:

You've heard me say, "Keelah se'lai"? The best translation I can come up with is, "By the homeworld I hope to see someday."

I have some other dialogues, but they'd be a bit too spoilerish for my taste.

Thanks for not posting anything super spoilerific. I've successfully managed to avoid any major spoilers thus far despite all the discussion about the leaks. Hoping to maintain that particular seal until post March 6th.

About the quotes... maybe it's just me, but the "suit" quote sounds ridiculously sexy, makes me laugh/grin while mentally envisioning Tali saying that. Figure that "Idenna" one is when she's fighting Cerberus troops, given the events of ME: Ascension (speaking of which, in the Rannoch theater I hope Tali will introduce us to Captain Mal, and I hope even more that Bioware would get Nathan Fillion for a cameo role =P). The latter two are very interesting bits of trivia- again, much obliged, Someone With Mass.

Modifié par Ruthac_Arus, 15 novembre 2011 - 04:11 .

[Someone With Mass]

Let me just tell you this:

There's a very happy ending to the geth/quarian conflict that I'm sure many people will like.

And it will open up a few nice things for Tali too.

Modifié par Someone With Mass, 15 novembre 2011 - 04:25 .

[Ruthac_Arus]

Neat! I think that one might be a little closer to spoilers than I'd like to hear (it's a war of extinction- some uncertainty adds to the excitement), but all the same I figured that'd be one of the possible outcomes. Mass Effect scenarios do tend to have at least one very idealistic ending option, if the player decides to pursue that type of resolution.

Having a great ending for both Tali and Legion's people, I'm A-OK with. I seem to recall even Saphra Deden was pleased with how they handled the Rannoch conflict as described in the beta files, or at least as it pertains to the Geth and Quarians- that's very encouraging.

[Someone With Mass]

There are many ways the quarian/geth conflict can be handled and I found a way that fits me just fine since it makes everyone happy.

Some characters will experience completely new things and some will make unexpected decisions.

Tali will be awestruck once more.

[Cheese of Borg]

Random observance: when they say the alari has been taken during Tali's trial, you can hear un-translated quarian conversations in the background. It is a very unique sound.

I wonder if Tali's translator would work once she's taken off her suit...

Modifié par Cheese of Borg, 15 novembre 2011 - 05:54 .

[DoNotIngest]

Cheese of Borg wrote...

Random observance: when they say the alari has been taken during Tali's trial, you can hear un-translated quarian conversations in the background. It is a very sound.

I wonder if Tali's translator would work once she's taken off her suit...

Come again?

[Nashiktal]

Cheese of Borg wrote...

Random observance: when they say the alari has been taken during Tali's trial, you can hear un-translated quarian conversations in the background. It is a very sound.

I wonder if Tali's translator would work once she's taken off her suit...

Depends, but won't matter considering shep has a translater too.