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[AVPen]

Alright, new tactic and topic:

Anybody else feel just a tad disappointed for Kal'Reegar in ME3, given that if Tali doesn't  have a relationship with Shepard then she'll start one up with Garrus in the 3rd game? 

Modifié par AVPen, 29 décembre 2011 - 03:16 .

[TheWerdna]

Ticktank wrote...

SMW may need awhile to respond. He's probably desperately PMing a mod for help right now.

Quarians in MP would be excellent...to grief. No thermal clips or medigel for them, until they finish school. Which is never.

And once again you prove you are either unwilling or incapable of giving a actual constructive response.  If you actually take the time to say something relevent that does not involve taunts (of a level of creativity that I would normaly expect to be employed by a 12 year old) people would possibly respect what you are trying to say and take credence of what you are trying to say.

Friendly advice, if you act civil, people will respond likewise. You don't have to agree with everyone, no one expects you to and to ask that would be completely unreasonable.  All that is asked is a little tolerence of other's opinions, and you will see that people will repect yours.

Modifié par TheWerdna, 29 décembre 2011 - 03:37 .

[Someone With Mass]

AVPen wrote...

Alright, new tactic and topic:

Anybody else just a tad disappointed for Kal'Reegar in ME3, given that if Tali doesn't have a relationship with Shepard then she'll start one up with Garrus in the 3rd game?

Eh. He can probably find someone else to charm.

[MisterJB]

TheWerdna wrote...

Also, I have to diagree with your examples of how Quarians are not good at fighting. In the case of Haestorm they were completely outnumbered by the Geth, which I suspect a simular sized steam other humans or other races would be fair little better. The only reason Shepard is able to handle it is because welll...Shepard is a complete badass. As for the other examples, same deal. We only see that Shepard & Team > Quarian Stike Force. The problem with this is in general Shepard&Team > everyone else.

I think a more pertinent example would be the Cerberus attack on "Ascension". According to Sanders,despite their numeric and field advantage, the situation was hopeless for the quarians due to Cerberus having better armor, weapons and training.
I acknowledge that, from the very beginning, the odds were stacked against the quarians. They were not expecting an attack. Most of them were not even wearing body armor and there are, most likely, better figthers aboard the Migrant Fleet than the ones in the group that fought the invaders.
However, Cerberus troops have also been upgraded in ME3, in every sense of the word. Better weapons, better armors and other spoilery things that makes them better figthers. I do question just how well the quarians will fair against them.

Modifié par MisterJB, 29 décembre 2011 - 03:22 .

[AVPen]

Cthulhu42 wrote...

AVPen wrote...

Alright, new tactic and topic:

Anybody else just a tad disappointed for Kal'Reegar in ME3, given that if Tali doesn't  have a relationship with Shepard then *spoiler* in the 3rd game? 

Ah, but what if Shepard already has a relationship with said character? Then what happens?

No idea, haven't come across anything for that scenario in the leaked script.

Someone With Mass wrote...

Eh. He can probably find someone else to charm.

He better not try to put the moves on Xen, then.... knowing her, she'd use him in the same manner as her childhood toys, which would result in a very broken and battered Reegar. 

Modifié par AVPen, 29 décembre 2011 - 03:27 .

[HellBovine]

MisterJB wrote...

I think a more pertinent example would be the Cerberus attack on "Ascension". According to Sanders,despite their numeric and field advantage, the situation was hopeless for the quarians due to Cerberus having better armor, weapons and training.
I acknowledge that, from the very beginning, the odds were stacked against the quarians. They were not expecting an attack. Most of them were not even wearing body armor and there are, most likely, better figthers aboard the Migrant Fleet than the ones in the group that fought the invaders.
However, Cerberus troops have also been upgraded in ME3, in every sense of the word. Better weapons, better armors and other spoilery things that makes them better figthers. I do question just how well the quarians will fair against them.

The whole situation was a home invasion by commandos, without any previous indication of danger or time to prepare. They would have caught the quarians without weapons, body armor, or any significant shielding equiped as they relied on the fleet to manage with any attacks and felt secure in their homes. Cannot really use a battle that takes place unexpectedly in your home as precedent.

Modifié par HellBovine, 29 décembre 2011 - 03:28 .

[Someone With Mass]

Ticktank wrote...

SMW may need awhile to respond. He's probably desperately PMing a mod for help right now.

Quarians in MP would be excellent...to grief. No thermal clips or medigel for them, until they finish school. Which is never.

No, I just don't see the point in trying to engage you in a serious argument, since the best rebuttal that comes out of your mouth can be toppled by my seven year old nephew.

As for that moderator intervention, that was all you.

Brain damaged troll which has nothing good to come up with besides petty insults aside...

TheWerdna wrote...

It is stated in the game several times that Quarians are not as fragile as everyone thinks. Tali even says as much in the lines "If a single suit breach could kill us, we would have gone extinct long ago".

During Tali's loyalty mission Kal'reeger mentions that most suit breaches are not fatal, and as long as they have antibiotics and other medicine at hand. He goes on to mention that this is generaly not a issue for small strike groups and small scale battles (like those that you would be in the multiplayer).

What is mentioned, which you brought up ealier, is that in Kal'Reeger does say that the immune system becomes a huge handycap when it comes to open war, particularly largeer scale and more prolonged battles. In this situation antibotics and such would be spread too thin and there would not be enough for all the wounded.

So yes, you are somewhat correct in that during a largeer conflict or war the Quarians would be at a dissadvantage when it came to their immune system. At the same time a Quarian would be no less fragile then any other race provided they have access to immunoboosters and antibiotics.

This. Another good example of a quarian who didn't die on the spot was Lemm from Ascension. He got the good part of his lower leg shot off, and he got away with a limp.

Also, it's important for every race to have supplies. The quarians aren't the only ones depending on them. If a human gets badly injured and there's no medical supplies to treat the wounds with, there's a high risk that he might die. Same goes with the other races. Without supplies, in any shape, they won't be able to provide a strong resistance for long.

Quarians have even shown that they're personally prepared to handle infections with some medicines and other suppressors installed directly in their suits when they're leaving their ship.

And when they're backed up by admiral Hackett, I'm sure they'll get whatever preparations they need to complete their tasks.

[Ruby Python]

Joshp9690 wrote...

Can we just end the fanwars already? This is all futile anyways.

I completely agree. I find It somewhat sad that fans of this awesome game can't get along with each other, and are reduced to just insulting each others intelligence and favorite characters.
Regardless anybody else here gonna be wearing their Tali tee to the release when it finally gets here?
Also if you do have one which design, I personally got the "My other Girlfriend is a Quarian" shirt

[naledgeborn]

HellBovine wrote...

The whole situation was a home invasion by commandos, without any previous indication of danger or time to prepare. They would have caught the quarians without weapons, body armor, or any significant shielding equiped as they relied on the fleet to manage with any attacks and felt secure in their homes. Cannot really use a battle that takes place unexpectedly in your home as precedent.

If anything the Quarians had the advantage. The Cerberus commandos were going in blind. Unless I'm mistaken, before Kahlee and company there's never been an "outsider" in the flotilla.

[JosephDucreux]

Someone With Mass wrote...
Oh, and nobody will miss you if you're not in the multiplayer, so place your whiny comments someplace else.

And everyone will wish you weren't in the multiplayer. So why don't you go troll someone who isn't completely jaded.

[Someone With Mass]

AVPen wrote...
He better not try to put the moves on Xen, then.... knowing her, she'd use him in the same manner as her childhood toys, which would result in a very broken and battered Reegar. 

He doesn't strike me as that kind of guy either. He's probably too busy leading strike teams to care. 

[HellBovine]

naledgeborn wrote...

HellBovine wrote...

The whole situation was a home invasion by commandos, without any previous indication of danger or time to prepare. They would have caught the quarians without weapons, body armor, or any significant shielding equiped as they relied on the fleet to manage with any attacks and felt secure in their homes. Cannot really use a battle that takes place unexpectedly in your home as precedent.

If anything the Quarians had the advantage. The Cerberus commandos were going in blind. Unless I'm mistaken, before Kahlee and company there's never been an "outsider" in the flotilla.

Which also means they would be unprepared to fend off any boarding parties.

[JosephDucreux]

Cthulhu42 wrote...
The Tali thread gets trolled like no other character's.

Oh boohoo, quit cryin'. You obviously weren't here last year when everyone was busy trolling the Jack and Miranda threads and not the Tali thread. No sh*t.

[JosephDucreux]

Someone With Mass wrote...
Here's another spoiler:
Legion dies regardless of what you do, so stop with your incredibly lame and weak attempts at placing blame and flame on Tali. I know you're just mad because something that you don't like is in the game. Boo-f*cking-hoo.*spoiler*

*Spoiler* Legion dies only because of Tali's hesitation, and no matter how you try to defend your waifu, it's her fault because she didn't immediately call off the attack, which was severely weakening Legion. I know you're butthurt just because your favorite character isn't loved by everyone. Boo-f*cking-hoo, Chief Butthurt.*End spoiler*

[MisterJB]

HellBovine: All of what you said is true. However, a surprise attack will only get you so far, eventually, the enemy forces will reorganize and be able to present a proper defense. An evidence of that is how some of the quarians were armored.
It was not a fair fight but the quarians did have numeric and field advantage so, I believe we can use it as a precedent.

[naledgeborn]

HellBovine wrote...

Which also means they would be unprepared to fend off any boarding parties.

The Qurians were the home team and Cerberus was going in blind. Even if the Quarians were "unprepared" they were fighting on familiar turf. Quarians had the advantage no matter how you pretty it up.

[JosephDucreux]

Cthulhu42 wrote...

That's it; I'm pulling out a pony pic to calm you guys down (it is close to TotP anyway):

PONIES!!! *brohoof*

[JosephDucreux]

MisterJB wrote...

HellBovine: All of what you said is true. However, a surprise attack will only get you so far, eventually, the enemy forces will reorganize and be able to present a proper defense.

Unless you follow Sun Tzu's stratagems and hit them so fast and hard they can't effectively respond. The U.S. military calls it 'Shock and Awe'.

[JosephDucreux]

naledgeborn wrote...

LOL @ SWM getting emo. Can't speak for Joe, but I know I wasn't picking a fight. I just thought this was the most appropriate thread to say that Quarians in MP is more or less contrived.

I came in here tryin' to find Calinstel for a good chat, but got Chief Butthurt trying to rub his emo angst onto me instead. Agreed with your last.

[Ticktank]

JosephDucreux wrote...

Someone With Mass wrote...
Oh, and nobody will miss you if you're not in the multiplayer, so place your whiny comments someplace else.

And everyone will wish you weren't in the multiplayer. So why don't you go troll someone who isn't completely jaded.

Weren't in multiplayer? Hell no me and my friends got a whole welcoming package waiting for SMW when he finally logs in his quarian for MP 'cooperative'. The ' ' are there because cooperation doesn't actually happen in any team he's in.

Multiplayer will be awesome!

[Runescapeguy9]

If you're going to continue the conversation, PLEASE do it in private messages? You're filling the board with off topic posts.

[naledgeborn]

We're discussing Quarian military tactics. Tali is supposedly a Quarian Admiral. Thus we're on topic.