Considering that Shala had to take a week off to adapt to Tali's mom,I'd say that Quarians would risk walking around unsuited outside of family or close friends in dedicated areas.
Tali'Zorah ME3 Thread *MAJOR SPOILER WARNING!*
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Posté 30 décembre 2011 - 09:11
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I think you misunderstood something. I was looking at the entire 'sex' issue from the alien view, not a human one. That they might just be hardwired to accept only intimate relations with those of the opposite sex. Basically, without knowing how the aliens actually view it, you would be pushing homosexuality on them. So, now who is in the wrong?jlb524 wrote...
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I too have nothing against bi crewmates but what I do have an issue with
is pushing HUMAN sexuality onto alien races. What is there to say that
turian and quarians even have same sex liasons within their own
communities? Just because humans have them? Not good enough. I'm not
saying same sex is wrong but an alien might be wired so differently that
it would be impossible for them.
Now this is funny.
What is okay: to push sex with humans onto alien races (well, 'heterosexual' sex).
Not okay: to push 'homosexual' sex with humans.
For giggles, we have the asari. The quarians and turians need not join.
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Posté 30 décembre 2011 - 09:14
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With the minimal amout of knowledge we have, I tend to believe that in the beginning, the quarians were able to move about freely. But, with the aging ships they live on, breakdowns and accidents began occuring more and more frequently. Now, it is far safer to always remain in their suits. Case in point here. Rael would not take the sick leave to allow himself the chance to show Tali his face. That really does indicate that suits are worn always and that the visors remain cloudy even within their own homes. At least during Tali's life.Tasha vas Nar Rayya wrote...
Deviously delicious.
And back to the quarians being in suits on the Flotilla. I imagine that due to Shepard's reported arrival, that suits being worn in alien company would be compulsory. Tali asked them to prepare a clean team to meet them after all. And it seems that there are specific designated rooms where quarians don't where the suits as well. I doubt they gave Shepard and co a tour of that part of the ship.
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Posté 30 décembre 2011 - 09:15
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Haven't people been saying that Captain Gavorn is gay, based on one of the SB videos? So at least turians can be gay, it seems.
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Posté 30 décembre 2011 - 09:22
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Haven't people been saying that Captain Gavorn is gay, based on one of the SB videos? So at least turians can be gay, it seems.
I must say that it's quite the leap, because all it is, is him sitting on a bed and then another guy steps into the frame.
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Posté 30 décembre 2011 - 09:23
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Have we seen female turians?Someone With Mass wrote...
Cthulhu42 wrote...
Haven't people been saying that Captain Gavorn is gay, based on one of the SB videos? So at least turians can be gay, it seems.
I must say that it's quite the leap, because all it is, is him sitting on a bed and then another guy steps into the frame.
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Posté 30 décembre 2011 - 09:24
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Not in-game. There's one in a comic, I think.Calinstel wrote...
Have we seen female turians?Someone With Mass wrote...
Cthulhu42 wrote...
Haven't people been saying that Captain Gavorn is gay, based on one of the SB videos? So at least turians can be gay, it seems.
I must say that it's quite the leap, because all it is, is him sitting on a bed and then another guy steps into the frame.
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Posté 30 décembre 2011 - 09:26
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we have one in a comicCalinstel wrote...
Have we seen female turians?Someone With Mass wrote...
Cthulhu42 wrote...
Haven't people been saying that Captain Gavorn is gay, based on one of the SB videos? So at least turians can be gay, it seems.
I must say that it's quite the leap, because all it is, is him sitting on a bed and then another guy steps into the frame.
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Posté 30 décembre 2011 - 09:31
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Calinstel wrote...
I think you misunderstood something. I was looking at the entire 'sex' issue from the alien view, not a human one. That they might just be hardwired to accept only intimate relations with those of the opposite sex. Basically, without knowing how the aliens actually view it, you would be pushing homosexuality on them. So, now who is in the wrong?
For giggles, we have the asari. The quarians and turians need not join.
Why are you assuming turians and quarians wouldn't be wired to have sex just with their own species?
If they are that hardwired, you think they'd only accept intimate relations with those of the opposite sex of their own species.
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Posté 30 décembre 2011 - 09:45
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In that I agree. I however do not write for BW. I am just stating that they might behave differently from humans where intimacy is concerned. Though I was greatly pleased that Tali was romancable in ME2, it would not have shocked or upset me to learn that infact, she could only become attracted to one of her own race.jlb524 wrote...
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I think you misunderstood something. I was looking at the entire 'sex' issue from the alien view, not a human one. That they might just be hardwired to accept only intimate relations with those of the opposite sex. Basically, without knowing how the aliens actually view it, you would be pushing homosexuality on them. So, now who is in the wrong?
For giggles, we have the asari. The quarians and turians need not join.
Why are you assuming turians and quarians wouldn't be wired to have sex just with their own species?
If they are that hardwired, you think they'd only accept intimate relations with those of the opposite sex of their own species.
Also, please understand that had Tali been shown to be Bi in ME2, there would be no discussion. BW chose to make her hetero then and for consistency, I do prefer they keep her so. Yes, this is a personal preference but ME is so inconsistent with it's lore/gameplay already that ANY stability is much preferred by myself.
What remains to be seen is just how close humans and quarians are in looks. If really close (though I would find that slightly unbelievable) then there could be an attraction. Still, it would always be at the back of Tali's mind that she could not produce a child from this union. And I do honestly believe that reproducing is a major concern to her and her race.
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Posté 30 décembre 2011 - 09:46
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Cthulhu42 wrote...
Haven't people been saying that Captain Gavorn is gay, based on one of the SB videos? So at least turians can be gay, it seems.
Hmmm I never seen that vid in the Shadow Broker's files. What happens?
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Posté 30 décembre 2011 - 09:47
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In that I agree. I however do not write for BW. I am just stating that they might behave differently from humans where intimacy is concerned. Though I was greatly pleased that Tali was romancable in ME2, it would not have shocked or upset me to learn that infact, she could only become attracted to one of her own race.
Also, please understand that had Tali been shown to be Bi in ME2, there would be no discussion. BW chose to make her hetero then and for consistency, I do prefer they keep her so. Yes, this is a personal preference but ME is so inconsistent with it's lore/gameplay already that ANY stability is much preferred by myself.
But BW didn't write her (or Garrus) as attracted to humans in ME1 and that changed.
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Posté 30 décembre 2011 - 09:58
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mauro2222 wrote...
Cthulhu42 wrote...
Haven't people been saying that Captain Gavorn is gay, based on one of the SB videos? So at least turians can be gay, it seems.
Hmmm I never seen that vid in the Shadow Broker's files. What happens?
Gavorn is sitting on the edge of a double bed, seemingly looking down on the floor. The video stops as what we can assume is a male human enters the frame.
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Posté 30 décembre 2011 - 10:01
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Yes it did. Not a retcon, more like a relook. As I said, I would not have been shocked or upset had BW left Tali the way she was. I already found her and her race very interesting. I love real science and scifi. The information Tali gave about her race only wetted my appetite for more information. That is also why I said if she have been BI in ME2, then there would be no issue.jlb524 wrote...
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In that I agree. I however do not write for BW. I am just stating that they might behave differently from humans where intimacy is concerned. Though I was greatly pleased that Tali was romancable in ME2, it would not have shocked or upset me to learn that infact, she could only become attracted to one of her own race.
Also, please understand that had Tali been shown to be Bi in ME2, there would be no discussion. BW chose to make her hetero then and for consistency, I do prefer they keep her so. Yes, this is a personal preference but ME is so inconsistent with it's lore/gameplay already that ANY stability is much preferred by myself.
But BW didn't write her (or Garrus) as attracted to humans in ME1 and that changed.
In ME1, she was not open to starting a relationship (though I believe BW had planned one, unsure myself about that). We can, or atleast I can, attribute that lack of interest to her being still on her pilgrimage and not concidered either a full adult OR she was truly just focused on completing her pilgrimage before starting anything. She was rather idealistic in her views towards her race and naive in her views about the rest of the galaxy.
In ME2, she was a full adult and could let her inner feelings grow. Since Tali knew about any relationship our Shepards would have had, especially about a female Shepard and Liara, I doubt she would be hesitent to let the female Shepard know that she too was interested. Tali did not. To me, that signifies a clear statement that Tali is only interested in the male Shepard as anything more than a very close friend.
In half my playthroughs in ME1, I ran a female Shepard. Something about femshep and liara... Never mind.
In ME2, I found I had to go back and create male Shepards just to romance Tali. I did. I was a bit miffed myself at having to replay ME1 just to change my charaters sex but I did. I had to accept the fact that Tali is hetero and after so many playthroughs, it bothers me not at all.
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Posté 30 décembre 2011 - 10:18
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In ME1, she was not open to starting a relationship (though I believe BW had planned one, unsure myself about that).
I think they planned it, for Garrus and Tali. But they were unsure of the response of people towards sex with a bird and raptor legs.
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Posté 30 décembre 2011 - 10:18
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Yes it did. Not a retcon, more like a relook. As I said, I would not have been shocked or upset had BW left Tali the way she was. I already found her and her race very interesting. I love real science and scifi. The information Tali gave about her race only wetted my appetite for more information. That is also why I said if she have been BI in ME2, then there would be no issue.
Well, I mean they also do 'relooks' in fiction with regards to sexualty too...having characters realize that they have s/s attraction over time, etc. Which is why I don't think that would be a bad thing. Though, I don't see it happening in ME3.
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In half my playthroughs in ME1, I ran a female Shepard. Something about femshep and liara... Never mind.
Aw yeah.
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Posté 30 décembre 2011 - 10:20
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I had to accept the fact that Tali is hetero and after so many playthroughs, it bothers me not at all.
Well... you are a heterosexual male, I think, the point is that you already have her. Homosexual and bisexual females who like Tali in that way are bothered.
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Posté 30 décembre 2011 - 10:22
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Yes, "bothered" is a good term XD
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Posté 31 décembre 2011 - 12:45
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Yes, playing as a male protagonist, Tali is romanceable. Then again, had I wished to romance Thane or Garrus, I would have had to play with a femshep.mauro2222 wrote...
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I had to accept the fact that Tali is hetero and after so many playthroughs, it bothers me not at all.
Well... you are a heterosexual male, I think, the point is that you already have her. Homosexual and bisexual females who like Tali in that way are bothered.
That said, just when in the hell is BW going to let us see more of Tali or ANY other character than meathead, Liara and Garrus?
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Posté 31 décembre 2011 - 12:52
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Hey, lay off Vega, he actually seems pretty cool in the script.Calinstel wrote...
That said, just when in the hell is BW going to let us see more of Tali or ANY other character than meathead, Liara and Garrus?
Anyway, they've been showing Ashley a lot too, what with that whole armour thing. Although a screenshot of Tali in her ME3 outfit would be nice, seeing as we've seen one of every other returning squadmate.
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Posté 31 décembre 2011 - 01:27
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The ones who are kept in the dark are Kaidan and Tali, at least Kaidan has a pic lol.
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Posté 31 décembre 2011 - 01:27
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Hey, Vega is awesome. He's the 22nd century Soap MacTavish, so no talking smack about him.
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Posté 31 décembre 2011 - 02:56
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Ah, there's the rub. Meathead has not appeared in ME1 or 2. The squad members and crew from the previous games are currently the only members of Shepard's crew I can care for.
Yes, I've read the 'spoilers' so please understand, the character of meathead, as portrayed in the leaks just rubs me the wrong way. In my military career, his actions would never have been approved or even tolerated. It remains to be seen, in ME3, if meathead graduates to being called Vega or spacefiller. Taking up space but never used.
Edit: To keep this OT, I really do hope BW releases at least a pic if not a short vid of Tali and other characters. Quickly.
Yes, I've read the 'spoilers' so please understand, the character of meathead, as portrayed in the leaks just rubs me the wrong way. In my military career, his actions would never have been approved or even tolerated. It remains to be seen, in ME3, if meathead graduates to being called Vega or spacefiller. Taking up space but never used.
Edit: To keep this OT, I really do hope BW releases at least a pic if not a short vid of Tali and other characters. Quickly.
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Posté 31 décembre 2011 - 02:57
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mauro2222 wrote...
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I had to accept the fact that Tali is hetero and after so many playthroughs, it bothers me not at all.
Well... you are a heterosexual male, I think, the point is that you already have her. Homosexual and bisexual females who like Tali in that way are bothered.
You can't have everything. Some characters are unromancable. Some characters aren't gay/Bi. I think it is just that simple. If we want to be realistic, then not everyone one the ship should want to have sex with everyone on the ship not hindered by the fact that they are the same sex. Simple fact- not everyone is bi. Your assuming that Tali is bi unless otherwise stated. You are making an assumption. And you know what they say about assumptions...
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Posté 31 décembre 2011 - 03:11
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Its ok. We all want Tali.jlb524 wrote...
Yes, "bothered" is a good term XD
