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[hand-o_death547]

I'm curious to see what the planet even looks like.

[Unschuld]

hand-o_death547 wrote...

I'm curious to see what the planet even looks like.

Like a desert or savanna.

[BentOrgy]

Unschuld wrote...

hand-o_death547 wrote...

I'm curious to see what the planet even looks like.

Like a desert or savanna.

Yep, which makes me hope that one of the new screens we saw (With Tali, Garrus, and Shep in the Defender armor.) was on Rannoch; you can see desert rock formations and cacti in the background, but the biggest thing for me was the sky; it was night time.

Do we get to visit the same planet, but at different times of day? That would be nice, considering in the past two games, time remained the same.

[AVPen]

BentOrgy wrote...

Unschuld wrote...

hand-o_death547 wrote...

I'm curious to see what the planet even looks like.

Like a desert or savanna.

Yep, which makes me hope that one of the new screens we saw (With Tali, Garrus, and Shep in the Defender armor.) was on Rannoch; you can see desert rock formations and cacti in the background, but the biggest thing for me was the sky; it was night time.

You mean this one?

 

[BentOrgy]

AVPen wrote...

BentOrgy wrote...

Unschuld wrote...

hand-o_death547 wrote...

I'm curious to see what the planet even looks like.

Like a desert or savanna.

Yep, which makes me hope that one of the new screens we saw (With Tali, Garrus, and Shep in the Defender armor.) was on Rannoch; you can see desert rock formations and cacti in the background, but the biggest thing for me was the sky; it was night time.

You mean this one?

*Snip*

Its from the same series, yes. I thought it looked promising.

[Someone With Mass]

Yeah, judging by the other screenshots and the scene with the Reaper, it looks like you're going to spend at least one whole day on Rannoch.

[sites32]

I don't believe no quarian in any of the games refer to the homeworld as Rannoch, I think legion explains why i just don't recall what was said.

[BentOrgy]

sitesunseen wrote...

I don't believe no quarian in any of the games refer to the homeworld as Rannoch, I think legion explains why i just don't recall what was said.

Double negatives make my head hurt., and while I'm certain its been mentioned in the past, here;

*Spoiler*

This is Rannoch, the world of our ancestors.

Keelah! I'm standing on Rannoch. I'm on my homeworld.

Although its orange sun is only about 90% the mass of Sol and half as luminous, Rannoch is arid by Earth standards because it formed closer to its star and has slightly less ocean coverage. Photosynthetic life is concentrated around rivers and oceans, with large expanses of desert in between. The importance of plant life and shade in ancient quarian culture is evident in the translation of Rannoch's name--"walled garden."

*End Spoilers*

Modifié par BentOrgy, 11 janvier 2012 - 01:46 .

[hand-o_death547]

sitesunseen wrote...

I don't believe no quarian in any of the games refer to the homeworld as Rannoch, I think legion explains why i just don't recall what was said.

On ME2 he said that they no longer called it that and instead starting calling it the homeworld.  I'm guessing they are going to change that once they get it back.  It would be pretty wierd of someone asks a quarian were they are from and the quarian says "Oh, I'm from homeworld."

[Mass_Effect1-3_4_LIFE]

hand-o_death547 wrote...

sitesunseen wrote...

I don't believe no quarian in any of the games refer to the homeworld as Rannoch, I think legion explains why i just don't recall what was said.

On ME2 he said that they no longer called it that and instead starting calling it the homeworld.  I'm guessing they are going to change that once they get it back.  It would be pretty wierd of someone asks a quarian were they are from and the quarian says "Oh, I'm from homeworld."

i agree

[Someone With Mass]

"Homeworld" is a symbol of regret, loss and anger.

[hand-o_death547]

Someone With Mass wrote...

"Homeworld" is a symbol of regret, loss and anger.

Lol did legion say that or did you just make that up, either way it's pretty spot on.

[hand-o_death547]

Cthulhu42 wrote...

hand-o_death547 wrote...

Someone With Mass wrote...

"Homeworld" is a symbol of regret, loss and anger.

Lol did legion say that or did you just make that up, either way it's pretty spot on.

Legion says it.

Ok I thought so.

[BentOrgy]

Calinstel wrote...

It's a shame really. BioWare could have released expansion packs. One for the quarian/geth conflict and one for the genophage. 20 or 30 hour expansions that I know would have sold like hotcakes. Instead, we get two or three full games crammed into a single one. For some reason, this saddens me.
Now, instead of a nice slow buildup, we once more have to rush in to save the situation and unfortunately, are forced to use Tali's position to do it. Just feels wrong using her that way.

I don't know about 20 to 30 hours, but the idea is sound; these conflicts really do seem like something that's too big to fit comfortably in one title.

Which is why, a while back, I said that some of what we're doing in ME3, should have been done in ME2. Let's face it, ME2's story was very tacked on, and in the end, didn't accomplish anything toward defeating the Reapers, our primary antagonist. All we did was collect a group of ex-soldiers and wanted criminals to kill a group of aliens that mean almost nothing to the player, or the galaxy at all. At the end of the game, the Reapers were still coming, and we still had no idea on how we were going to defeat them. In a word, useless.

[Unschuld]

Calinstel wrote...

It's a shame really. BioWare could have released expansion packs. One for the quarian/geth conflict and one for the genophage. 20 or 30 hour expansions that I know would have sold like hotcakes. Instead, we get two or three full games crammed into a single one. For some reason, this saddens me.
Now, instead of a nice slow buildup, we once more have to rush in to save the situation and unfortunately, are forced to use Tali's position to do it. Just feels wrong using her that way.

...And then there would be tons of people whining that they sold an incomplete game, and now they're upset at having to pay extra on top of that. Not to mention those that buy the game and want to do EVERYTHING within the span of the few days they took off from work, because they're impatient. Short things like Arrival and LotSB (smaller stuff like squad DLC and Firewalker) worked because Mass Effect is the middle child, and people could go back and play these later on their free time after they beat the game even (since there was no concrete ending). They didn't have to restart the entire game in order to play it like in ME1, which was atrocious (and also lackluster in content when you got to it).

The stories were small offshoots that didn't need to fit into specific areas of the plot, which is something I'm getting from the vibe of your post; that the retaking of Rannoch and solving the genophage share the same type of slot. However, since this is the end of the series I can't see them making any post-reaper DLC besides maybe a short epilogue at most. I'd expect all of the DLC to be placed within the main storyline, so you'd buy and and reload a new save to play it.

Helping the Quarians and curing/not curing the genophage as post-reaper DLC content is an interesting idea, but there are problems. One is that I'm *assuming* the geth conflict is based around reaper influence. The other is that while the endings for both of these side storylines would bring some closure, it would make for a somewhat mediocre ending after just defeating the most massive threat in the known galaxy.

[Unschuld]

BentOrgy wrote...


Which is why, a while back, I said that some of what we're doing in ME3, should have been done in ME2. Let's face it, ME2's story was very tacked on, and in the end, didn't accomplish anything toward defeating the Reapers, our primary antagonist. All we did was collect a group of ex-soldiers and wanted criminals to kill a group of aliens that mean almost nothing to the player, or the galaxy at all. At the end of the game, the Reapers were still coming, and we still had no idea on how we were going to defeat them. In a word, useless.

I guess a lot of people view it that way. 

ME2 was the middle child, and that's a bit like how most things in the middle of the trilogy go. You can't defeat the prime antagonist, because that would turn the trilogy into just a sequel. So instead the story revolved around building relationships (with the intention of using said relationships to help in the third game) and confounding the main antagonists' plans further. 

I've also stated my unpopular opinion a few times on the forum, and that is my favor for the Arrival DLC. I thought it was a good ending for ME2 and really set up the storyline for the beginning of ME3. Let me expand on that. I wouldn't mind if the entire plot revolved around Arrival, with that being the final mission/goal. Obviously not completely the same, mind you, but keeping the element of smashing an asteroid into a mass relay as the final act (now that I think about it, it kind of is anyway). The entire game, instead of pursuing the collectors, would revolve around finding more evidence of the reapers in a vain effort to convince the council that they ARE coming, in order to prepare for the invasion. You'd fight pockets of indoctrinated baddies and geth along the way, as you discovered more artifacts and evidence. Then you find Dr. Kenson/Kenson analogue at the end, running some sort of parallel research on the asteroid with object Rho etc. and essentially the plot of Arrival carries out and you're forced to ram the thing into the relay and get branded a mass murderer.

No, my story isn't fully fleshed out at all. I thought of it as I was writing this over the past few minutes. Actually, that's essentially almost the same plot as ME2 minus the collectors and TIM and giant terminator now that i think about it.
 




Edit: That's a terrible idea. Don't read it. Point is, ME2 is filler material. It is what it is. I liked it though. Time to sleep.

Modifié par Unschuld, 11 janvier 2012 - 05:29 .

[S.A.K]

Saphra Deden wrote...

Well you're either a drone or your just have very poor taste.

There is no need for Tali to be made an Admiral. The game even acknowledges this because in some scenarios she is, surprise-surprise, not an Admiral.

Not this sh*t again! Didn't we have enough of that arguement yesterday?

[PhantomSpectre]

Unschuld wrote...

I have honestly have no clue where I'm going to go first in this game. I'm guessing Earth won't be an option as a first priority, rather the end goal, so I'll probably try to hit Palaven and then Rannoch first if possible. Unfortunately Thessia is at the bottom of my list.

Well it does seems that according to leak script Mars would be your first stop and you can't avoid it even if you would want. Which also does make sense. After all it's not really that safe to be in same area with majority if Reaper fleet with only one ship.

[PhantomSpectre]

AVPen wrote...

Unschuld wrote...

I have honestly have no clue where I'm going to go first in this game. I'm guessing Earth won't be an option as a first priority, rather the end goal, so I'll probably try to hit Palaven and then Rannoch first if possible. Unfortunately Thessia is at the bottom of my list.

Pretty much my plan as well (sorry Liara  )... plus if Thessia actually falls during my playthrough, at least I'll have a good dialogue exchange between Shepard and Tali in compensation.

Well if you believe leak script, then Liara's recruit have nothing to do with Thessia.