Perhaps you don't need to unlock the BP at all, and the character can use it right from the start (like Liara could use Stasis in LotSB). As for the the starting up a new relationship with Tali/Garrus in ME3, I don't think it'll happen, as there's already 7 or so "new" romances present in ME3.AVPen wrote...
If Shepard can start a "new romance" with Tali in ME3 (and again, everything I've read sorta points to the answer being "no", but that's just my interpretation on the leaked script), then obviously we're missing some sort of variable/s which determine whether or not Tali stays single enough for Shepard to woo her or she starts up a relationship with Garrus instead. Maybe it's a matter of Shepard's gender, when we acquire her in the game, or if Shepard's already in a relationship with another character?Atemeus wrote...
And the war both begins and ends over the course of ME3, so it's not "late" in the war or something. If Shepard can realistically start a brand new relationship with either VS or Liara then I think he or she can do the same with Garrus or Tali.
I've also been debating on her new Bonus Power and how she (and other characters' BP) acquires it - in the last game, it was based on gaining her Loyality, but since that's already gained (at least, for the majority of Shepards) and individual character loyalty is not as big a central gameplay aspect in ME3 like it was in ME2, then how does she unlock it? Perhaps completing a character's "homeworld" missions in a way that favors his/her side (ie, for Tali that would mean destroying or making peace with the Geth) or perhaps there are other missions and assignments throughout the game that factor into a character unlocking his/her BP?
Tali'Zorah ME3 Thread *MAJOR SPOILER WARNING!*
#12201
Guest_Cthulhu42_*
Posté 14 janvier 2012 - 05:26
Guest_Cthulhu42_*
#12202
Posté 14 janvier 2012 - 06:08
There seems to be some misunderstanding, but there's only three "new" romances present in ME3. Vega (bi), Spoiler (Gay male) and Spoiler (Gay female). There are four "old" romances: VS, Liara, Garrus and Tali.
Modifié par Atemeus, 14 janvier 2012 - 06:09 .
#12203
Posté 14 janvier 2012 - 06:16
Atemeus wrote...
Errr.... James Vega is the new soldier squadmate.
No game with Shepard dead is importable, for that save the series ends there at ME2 with Shepard's death. You have to go back and reload your game so that Shepard doesn't die at the end, or start a new game that ends with Shepard not dying, or start fresh with a no-import ME3 run.
*snip*
Oh, you can start a new ME3 with Shepard not dying? Must have misread somewhere that you begin ME3 as a whole different character(James Sanders which is now James Vega) if you did not have an import an ME2. Makes a lot more sense now.
#12204
Guest_Cthulhu42_*
Posté 14 janvier 2012 - 06:18
Guest_Cthulhu42_*
I meant "new" in that "you can start up a new relationship with them", not as in "new character". And there's apparently one other character you can romance as well, although I believe it's more of a Kelly-level thing than what the rest of the romances are.Atemeus wrote...
I would never be so petty to do it to any character, and Garrus is probably my favorite squadmate in the game, but I still have to point this out anyway: Garrus could easily be dead in ME3. What excuse does Tali have to no longer be remotely interested in Shepard in this case? It'd be kind of insulting if her attraction for Shepard was just something fleeting that she abandons for no reason. It'd make her romance in ME2 seem completely shallow.
There seems to be some misunderstanding, but there's only three "new" romances present in ME3. Vega (bi), Spoiler (Gay male) and Spoiler (Gay female). There are four "old" romances: VS, Liara, Garrus and Tali.
#12205
Posté 14 janvier 2012 - 06:24
Alright, there's Vega (Bi), Cortez (Shuttle Pilot and gay) and Samantha Traynor (Your comms person, gay) Who else is new to the series?
Modifié par Atemeus, 14 janvier 2012 - 06:24 .
#12206
Posté 14 janvier 2012 - 06:28
You're color-coding is off, btw.Atemeus wrote...
Alright, spoiler time guys. Don't read my post if you're not knowledgable because I need clarification.
*snip
There's also Diana Allers, a reporter that you can invite onto the Normandy, who's a new ME3 LI and sorta fills the "Kelly fling" role more than the two S/S LI (speaking off Kelly, she also has a slightly expanded romance this time around as well).
Also, we don't really know yet whether or not Vega is bi or not - some dialogue suggests that he is, while some others seem to conflict a bit.
Modifié par AVPen, 14 janvier 2012 - 06:38 .
#12207
Posté 14 janvier 2012 - 06:31
AVPen wrote...
You're color-coding is off, btw.Atemeus wrote...
Alright, spoiler time guys. Don't read my post if you're not knowledgable because I need clarification.
*snipEDIT: Never mind, you got it.
There's -Spoiler- who's a new ME3 LI.
So many characters that can be romanced this time. I think Bioware really does believe that the Normandy is a love-cruise.
#12208
Posté 14 janvier 2012 - 06:35
Still, cutting off Tali remains a bad concept to me if Garrus isn't around. And if you don't cut her off if Garrus is around, then why are you cutting her off at all? If Tali has time to start a brand new romance with someone she's known for two games, she has time to start a brand new romance with another- and one she has already previously shown interest in. It would seem very, very arbitrary.
Plus, what if Kaiden is alive, and you're male and straight with no romance from ME2?
Your option is Liara then. That's it.
#12209
Posté 14 janvier 2012 - 06:43
1. It would make romancing old characters feel more like an achievement. Something you aimed for.
( other than kaiden or Ashley, I feel they should be able to be newly romanced)
2, it COUlD not will, deviate from the writing of the established relationships
3. I'll be extremely dissapointed if Romacing tali in ME3 bears the same end/results as romancing her in ME2 (this x9000+)
#12210
Posté 14 janvier 2012 - 06:46
Modifié par Atemeus, 14 janvier 2012 - 06:47 .
#12211
Posté 14 janvier 2012 - 06:55
Atemeus wrote...
As opposed to she just plain got over you after six months? She held her crush after you were permanently (as far as she knew) dead for 2 whole years, but six months in jail and Shepard is old news? And then, her attraction for Shepard stems from how she admires your ability to accomplish the impossible... and what does Shepard do before recruiting her in ME3? Think about that. That sounds like deviating from her writing pretty far out there.
i agree with you, as you said, the fact that she got over you in 6 months, when she wasnt over you when she thought shep died for 2 years
#12212
Guest_Cthulhu42_*
Posté 14 janvier 2012 - 07:01
Guest_Cthulhu42_*
Yes, but if you didn't romance her in ME2 doesn't mean that you either a) rejected herMass_Effect1-3_4_LIFE wrote...
Atemeus wrote...
As opposed to she just plain got over you after six months? She held her crush after you were permanently (as far as she knew) dead for 2 whole years, but six months in jail and Shepard is old news? And then, her attraction for Shepard stems from how she admires your ability to accomplish the impossible... and what does Shepard do before recruiting her in ME3? Think about that. That sounds like deviating from her writing pretty far out there.
i agree with you, as you said, the fact that she got over you in 6 months, when she wasnt over you when she thought shep died for 2 years
Edit: And TotP. Being too lazy to go picture searching right now, I'll just take this pic that was recently posted in another thread:
Modifié par Cthulhu42, 14 janvier 2012 - 07:05 .
#12213
Posté 14 janvier 2012 - 07:02
#12214
Posté 14 janvier 2012 - 07:04
If Shepard already turned Tali down outright, then there's clearly a very good reason for Tali to move on there, but then again if you turned down Ashley in ME1 or Liara in LotSB I'd expect the same kind of "moving on" level. I mean, there's a new trigger that could justify the resurfacing of her feelings spoiler-wise so it could still be argued that a new romance with Tali would make complete sense, but it's not as bad in that case.
Modifié par Atemeus, 14 janvier 2012 - 07:09 .
#12215
Posté 14 janvier 2012 - 07:27
That is one fine profile, ain't it?Cthulhu42 wrote...
Edit: And TotP. Being too lazy to go picture searching right now, I'll just take this pic that was recently posted in another thread:
Modifié par AVPen, 14 janvier 2012 - 07:27 .
#12216
Posté 14 janvier 2012 - 07:28
#12217
Posté 14 janvier 2012 - 07:42
#12218
Posté 14 janvier 2012 - 07:47
#12219
Posté 14 janvier 2012 - 07:49
#12220
Posté 14 janvier 2012 - 07:50
You mean like this:Mass_Effect1-3_4_LIFE wrote...
not anything that is going on, but i say they should include more paragon hug interrupts, and renegae butt pinch/slap interrupts :]
http://www.nerfnow.com/comic/image/248
#12221
Posté 14 janvier 2012 - 07:51
#12222
Posté 14 janvier 2012 - 07:54
AVPen wrote...
You mean like this:Mass_Effect1-3_4_LIFE wrote...
not anything that is going on, but i say they should include more paragon hug interrupts, and renegae butt pinch/slap interrupts :]
http://www.nerfnow.com/comic/image/248
I love you for finding this, Have my children
#12223
Posté 14 janvier 2012 - 08:08
robmokron wrote...
AVPen wrote...
You mean like this:Mass_Effect1-3_4_LIFE wrote...
not anything that is going on, but i say they should include more paragon hug interrupts, and renegae butt pinch/slap interrupts :]
http://www.nerfnow.com/comic/image/248
I love you for finding this, Have my children
hah this is somewhere in the thread from around 6 months ago... i have 2 tabs open, ones on page 93 and one on the current page:P
Modifié par Mass_Effect1-3_4_LIFE, 14 janvier 2012 - 08:12 .
#12224
Posté 14 janvier 2012 - 08:17
Atemeus wrote...
I would never be so petty to do it to any character, and Garrus is probably my favorite squadmate in the game, but I still have to point this out anyway: Garrus could easily be dead in ME3. What excuse does Tali have to no longer be remotely interested in Shepard in this case? It'd be kind of insulting if her attraction for Shepard was just something fleeting that she abandons for no reason. It'd make her romance in ME2 seem completely shallow.
Mmmmh , you made a point .
Cut off Tali from the ""new"" LI's can be a huge mistake and would make her previous romance less serious and mature since i don't completely understand why she suddlenly have the same crush for Garrus .
But their weren't the final leak, so , we have to wait for a clear answer.
But if the old characters are romanceable again (Liara, VS ) i would find pretty stupid cut off two of the most beloved characters <_<.
(sorry for my English)
P.S : Nice pic indeed
#12225
Posté 14 janvier 2012 - 08:27
The entire "Normandy becomes a loveboat in ME3" is something of a put-off to me.





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