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[BentOrgy]

Hellbound555 wrote...

Cthulhu42 wrote...

Hellbound555 wrote...

@cthulhu42, i dont have the dlc, care to break it down for me?

Kasumi's greybox has valuable information that, if uncovered, could "implicate the Alliance". It's not said what this information is, however, but we know DA

I'm asking if you would, because you feel the need to always reveal the truth, take this course of action although it could threoreticcally. lead to a war.

i would hand it over to the council as soon as the reaper war was over. granted i dont have the full picture but just by going with what you said, thats exactly what i would do.

And that would do.... What, exactly? If the war's over, the data is uselss; all you'd be doing is igniting another conflict, over something that's already be resolved.

[Kid Buu]

schemata wrote...

Why in the world isnt there a secret tali community for people like us

uhhh. there is

Modifié par Kid Buu, 21 janvier 2012 - 09:57 .

[schemata]

where do I find this clan zorah and are hell and saph there?

[Homebound]

@Bent:
Because the alliance still did what they did. Its called accountability.

@Cthulhu42:
Immediately, so split decision, hand it over to the council or keep it a secret...If I keep it a secret, does that mean nobody will ever know what the council did?

[Kid Buu]

schemata wrote...

where do I find this clan zorah and are hell and saph there?

Saph is certainly not. lol Saph dosnt even like Tali.

Modifié par Kid Buu, 21 janvier 2012 - 09:59 .

[Homebound]

schemata wrote...

where do I find this clan zorah and are hell and saph there?

why yes, im part of clan zorah. anyways if you're leaving, think about what i've said.

[BentOrgy]

Hellbound555 wrote...

@Bent:
Because the alliance still did what they did. Its called accountability.

Sorry, but I find that staggeringly naive. You'd be willing to put even more people through hell, for your misguided sense of justice? So a few scientists withheld some information. Should they be punished? Yes, their data could have made some progress toward fighting the Reapers, but how is tying in the entire Alliance, most of which are innocent, justice? It isn't, you're condemning people who don't deserve it.

Private trials for those responsible, fine, but just blindly handing the data over to the Council saying "The Alliance did it." is borderline lunacy.

[Kid Buu]

Hellbound555 wrote...

schemata wrote...

where do I find this clan zorah and are hell and saph there?

why yes, im part of clan zorah. anyways if you're leaving, think about what i've said.

Hell people have different opinions. Im sure some people in Clan Zorah have differing ones than you anyway.

[Homebound]

Kid Buu wrote...

Hellbound555 wrote...

schemata wrote...

where do I find this clan zorah and are hell and saph there?

why yes, im part of clan zorah. anyways if you're leaving, think about what i've said.

Hell people have different opinions. Im sure some people in Clan Zorah have differing ones than you anyway.

opinions should not be unchallenged and unquestioned. Stop hiding behind your opinions.

[Homebound]

BentOrgy wrote...

Hellbound555 wrote...

@Bent:
Because the alliance still did what they did. Its called accountability.

Sorry, but I find that staggeringly naive. You'd be willing to put even more people through hell, for your misguided sense of justice? So a few scientists withheld some information. Should they be punished? Yes, their data could have made some progress toward fighting the Reapers, but how is tying in the entire Alliance, most of which are innocent, justice? It isn't, you're condemning people who don't deserve it.

Private trials for those responsible, fine, but just blindly handing the data over to the Council saying "The Alliance did it." is borderline lunacy.

it doesnt matter who the guilty party is. scientist, the alliance, whoever it is has to answer for their crimes.

[Kid Buu]

Hellbound555 wrote...

Kid Buu wrote...

Hellbound555 wrote...

schemata wrote...

where do I find this clan zorah and are hell and saph there?

why yes, im part of clan zorah. anyways if you're leaving, think about what i've said.

Hell people have different opinions. Im sure some people in Clan Zorah have differing ones than you anyway.

opinions should not be unchallenged and unquestioned. Stop hiding behind your opinions.

Opinions are hard to change as they reflect what the individual believes. So arguing about something like this is a waste of time.

[BentOrgy]

Hellbound555 wrote...

BentOrgy wrote...

Hellbound555 wrote...

@Bent:
Because the alliance still did what they did. Its called accountability.

Sorry, but I find that staggeringly naive. You'd be willing to put even more people through hell, for your misguided sense of justice? So a few scientists withheld some information. Should they be punished? Yes, their data could have made some progress toward fighting the Reapers, but how is tying in the entire Alliance, most of which are innocent, justice? It isn't, you're condemning people who don't deserve it.

Private trials for those responsible, fine, but just blindly handing the data over to the Council saying "The Alliance did it." is borderline lunacy.

it doesnt matter who the guilty party is. scientist, the alliance, whoever it is has to answer for their crimes.

You completely missed the point: it DOES matter who the guilty party is. Or are you saying demonizing an entire group is fine because some of their members are corrupt?

That's like saying every Tali mancer is a blithering idiot who only thinks about "Dem hips."

[Homebound]

Kid Buu wrote...

Hellbound555 wrote...

Kid Buu wrote...

Hellbound555 wrote...

schemata wrote...

where do I find this clan zorah and are hell and saph there?

why yes, im part of clan zorah. anyways if you're leaving, think about what i've said.

Hell people have different opinions. Im sure some people in Clan Zorah have differing ones than you anyway.

opinions should not be unchallenged and unquestioned. Stop hiding behind your opinions.

Opinions are hard to change as they reflect what the individual believes. So arguing about something like this is a waste of time.

its called growing up. The more information we get the better understanding we get. old stereotypes and misconceptions fall away to give way to deeper and fuller knowledge.

and I agree, the quarian people need all the facts.

[Homebound]

BentOrgy wrote...

Hellbound555 wrote...

BentOrgy wrote...

Hellbound555 wrote...

@Bent:
Because the alliance still did what they did. Its called accountability.

Sorry, but I find that staggeringly naive. You'd be willing to put even more people through hell, for your misguided sense of justice? So a few scientists withheld some information. Should they be punished? Yes, their data could have made some progress toward fighting the Reapers, but how is tying in the entire Alliance, most of which are innocent, justice? It isn't, you're condemning people who don't deserve it.

Private trials for those responsible, fine, but just blindly handing the data over to the Council saying "The Alliance did it." is borderline lunacy.

it doesnt matter who the guilty party is. scientist, the alliance, whoever it is has to answer for their crimes.

You completely missed the point: it DOES matter who the guilty party is. Or are you saying demonizing an entire group is fine because some of their members are corrupt?

That's like saying every Tali mancer is a blithering idiot who only thinks about "Dem hips."

who said anything about demonizing an entire group? it doesnt matter who they are.

[schemata]

Hellbound555 wrote...

Kid Buu wrote...

Hellbound555 wrote...

Kid Buu wrote...

Hellbound555 wrote...

schemata wrote...

where do I find this clan zorah and are hell and saph there?

why yes, im part of clan zorah. anyways if you're leaving, think about what i've said.

Hell people have different opinions. Im sure some people in Clan Zorah have differing ones than you anyway.

opinions should not be unchallenged and unquestioned. Stop hiding behind your opinions.

Opinions are hard to change as they reflect what the individual believes. So arguing about something like this is a waste of time.

its called growing up. The more information we get the better understanding we get. old stereotypes and misconceptions fall away to give way to deeper and fuller knowledge.

and I agree, the quarian people need all the facts.

Say something like that, but have a hard time grappling morality when its consquences arent immediate, you boggle my mind hell

[Someone With Mass]

Saphra Deden wrote...

Missing part of what you're saying? You said it was good enough for you. That's your stance on it, is it not? I don't think that's very admirable or defensible.

I won't claim to have the accepted moral highground in most matters, but I'm honest about that.

You aren't being very honest.

I SAID: "I think that's better than sabotaging the future efforts of the families of the crew of the Alarei by publicly admit that their relatives aided in a crime. It doesn't help anyone."

Then again, you seem to have a very distinct problem with reading past the first paragraph.

And I find it very cute that you think you know what my honest opinion is, as if you know me beyond this faceless avatar on the internet.

Not to mention that your own argument isn't very defensible, since THE EVIDENCE IS RIGHT THERE ON THE SHIP FOR THE TAKING, WHICH THEY CAN DO WHATEVER THEY WANT WITH LATER. You know, actually decide for their own future and see if they really need the public (dis)approval after Shepard's been there.

It's funny how it's okay for Shepard to decide what should be revealed without knowing the consequences, while you're not giving the admirals, the elected leaders of their race, a chance to decide what they think is best for their people.

Even if the information was made public, what practical solution would that lead to, beyond letting the people know the truth? Which I personally think that they don't need, seeing how they have enough on their plate by having to deal with the loss of a family member.

What are they going to do? Punish the criminals who are already dead? Are they going to target the families of the criminals? What good would that do?

[Homebound]

dont misunderstand, i know my shepard has hell to pay for keeping that data from the quarians. like how he has hell to pay for arrival and the batarians. and when the time comes, he wont run away. he'll take responsibility for his actions.

besides, the quarians will find out eventually. a fight is innevitable. theres no point hiding it.

Modifié par Hellbound555, 21 janvier 2012 - 10:16 .