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[hand-o_death547]

I think another big reason the Geth won was because they didn't need to worry about things such as food, water, and civilians. The Quarians had to make sure they troops were fed and the civies were out of the way. The Geth didn't have any of these worries, giving them a big time advantage. And the Geth also probably didn't have any disputes about fighting the war. I don't really know the backstory that well, but I'm guessing there was a lot of infighting (I mean arguing, not shooting each other) among the Quarians because some wanted to try to negotiate or retreat or whatever else they had in mind.

[Shub-Niggurath64]

BentOrgy wrote...

Shub-Niggurath64 wrote...

Unschuld wrote...

 They took their inspiration for Tali's appearance based on the fanart where Tali has been horrendously gene-spliced with a cartoon pony, the one which someone with the name of an octopus god will likely post here right after I complete this.

He's currently banned, even though his 24 hours are up (seriously, what's up with that?). Luckily, The Black Goat of the Woods with a Thousand Young is here to fill in for him (although a little late, admittedly).

*Snip*

That. Is. A-dorable.

And meh? He's banned? What for? How is he banned but Saphra isn't?

He wasn't banned for anything in the Tali thread; it was for spamming an anti-s/s thread with pony images. He's out for a week, apparently. It seems that Woo is tired with his spamming and derailing of troll threads.

Unschuld wrote...

How is it that you're not banned and he is? It's like opposite-land.

Me? Why, I'm a model forumite. Offended I am, that you would suggest such a thing.

Edit: And to be on-topic, Tali is the best character in ME.

Modifié par Shub-Niggurath64, 24 janvier 2012 - 03:51 .

[Someone With Mass]

Want to know what "geth" really means?

It means "Servant of the people"

[Shifty-looking Chicken]

Someone With Mass wrote...

Want to know what "geth" really means?

It means "Servant of the people"

I find that very interesting; thank you, good sir, for the information.

As a side note, I have to wonder what all that nonsense further up the page about some fellow getting banned is. Surely they don't ban people here, even temporarily, for such ridiculous and minor infractions?

[Someone With Mass]

Well, Cthulhu was asking for it, since he's been doing the same thing several times.

[Shifty-looking Chicken]

Was he now? Seems like quite a strange person. Still, I think that if he wasn't insulting others or using rude names like I'm told so many on the BSN frequently do, then I don't see why it was deserved, as doing those things is surely worse, I would think.

Still, perhaps you are right. I do not know this person, after all.

[darthnick427]

Hellbound555 wrote...

@schem
ya just ignore his crap. sometimes he actually has something to say underneath his backhanded comments.

@cthulhu42
lol its garrus and his cop sniper rifle all over again.

team dextro, dextroing it up since 2004

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[Nashiktal]

hand-o_death547 wrote...

I think another big reason the Geth won was because they didn't need to worry about things such as food, water, and civilians. The Quarians had to make sure they troops were fed and the civies were out of the way. The Geth didn't have any of these worries, giving them a big time advantage. And the Geth also probably didn't have any disputes about fighting the war. I don't really know the backstory that well, but I'm guessing there was a lot of infighting (I mean arguing, not shooting each other) among the Quarians because some wanted to try to negotiate or retreat or whatever else they had in mind.

There is no information about infighting, but we could probably safely assume that the quarians were in serious confusion at least. We are talking about machines that were integrated into every facet of society. They were in households, in the military, they were in all the heavy labor areas... And with all of the geth following the same decision with relentlesss determination... Well the quarians didn't stand a chance. Just imagine being a soldier and to suddenly have your vehicle run you over, your gun shoot you. A mother being killed by her toaster, a father by his computer.

Yike.

That is what makes all of this so grey. The geth were barely sapient when they rebelled, very young, very alien, and there is no way the quarians were united in the decision to shut down the geth. Both sides screwed up, yet at the same time both sides are... if not innocent, not entirely deserving of the blame.

The quarians were faced with a situation that was both highly dangerous, illegal, and morally ambiguous at best. The geth were barely sapient, mostly running on base survival instinct, and sudden sapience, and losing life over sudden sapience, would be quite the shock of an immature species like the geth, especially from those who made them that way.

[Pride Demon]

Nashiktal wrote...

hand-o_death547 wrote...

I think another big reason the Geth won was because they didn't need to worry about things such as food, water, and civilians. The Quarians had to make sure they troops were fed and the civies were out of the way. The Geth didn't have any of these worries, giving them a big time advantage. And the Geth also probably didn't have any disputes about fighting the war. I don't really know the backstory that well, but I'm guessing there was a lot of infighting (I mean arguing, not shooting each other) among the Quarians because some wanted to try to negotiate or retreat or whatever else they had in mind.

There is no information about infighting, but we could probably safely assume that the quarians were in serious confusion at least. We are talking about machines that were integrated into every facet of society. They were in households, in the military, they were in all the heavy labor areas... And with all of the geth following the same decision with relentlesss determination... Well the quarians didn't stand a chance. Just imagine being a soldier and to suddenly have your vehicle run you over, your gun shoot you. A mother being killed by her toaster, a father by his computer.

Yike.

That is what makes all of this so grey. The geth were barely sapient when they rebelled, very young, very alien, and there is no way the quarians were united in the decision to shut down the geth. Both sides screwed up, yet at the same time both sides are... if not innocent, not entirely deserving of the blame.

The quarians were faced with a situation that was both highly dangerous, illegal, and morally ambiguous at best. The geth were barely sapient, mostly running on base survival instinct, and sudden sapience, and losing life over sudden sapience, would be quite the shock of an immature species like the geth, especially from those who made them that way.

A reasonable stance, I quite agree...
Frankly I'm quite curious to see how Tali's stance on this will evolve in ME 3?

Someone With Mass wrote...
Want to know what "geth" really means?

It means "Servant of the people"

Interesting...
It's peculiar as they seem to be very accepting of this name and their purpose even after rebelling...

Now I'll just keep envisioning the Geth converting en masse to the Qun...
Yes, I know they are different, but it's a funny thought... XD

[JosephDucreux]

Saphra Deden wrote...

The data Tali give is data Legion can just get from the extra-net, meaning it is harmless.

And why am I not surprised..?

[Welsh Inferno]

JosephDucreux wrote...

Saphra Deden wrote...

The data Tali give is data Legion can just get from the extra-net, meaning it is harmless.

And why am I not surprised..?

Huh? I don't get it. What's wrong with that exactly?


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Modifié par Welsh Inferno, 24 janvier 2012 - 02:51 .

[Someone With Mass]

Welsh Inferno wrote...

Huh? I don't get it. What's wrong with that exactly?

Nothing. It's just that some people are trying to victimize Legion in order to have smudge to throw at Tali for no good reason other than being little trolltards, even though Legion is far from being a victim. Especially when he lies and keeps secrets himself.

[Welsh Inferno]

Ah. I thought as much.

[Shifty-looking Chicken]

I really like both Tali and Legion. That's allowed, isn't it?

Also, SWM, you may want to ease up on using terms like "trolltards". I hear the moderation is quite strict here.

[ZenJestr]

everything's allowed; I like Team Rannoch, too...I like all the characters (except for maybe Khalisa and Udina...and that racist volus)

[Shifty-looking Chicken]

Oh, I hate that racist volus too. Quite the rude fellow he is; he kind of reminds of some of the posts I've seen here, in fact.

[Welsh Inferno]

ZenJestr wrote...

...and that racist volus

Love it when Tali has a go at him. The C-Sec officer annoys me more though, because he should know better.

Modifié par Welsh Inferno, 24 janvier 2012 - 04:26 .

[ZenJestr]

not yet at least, but if left to his own he would've put an innocent through unnecessary legal bull**** based ENTIRELY off of racism

He was doing his job in investigating the issue, but if you didn't pull the Paragon interrupt he would, instead of chastising the volus for accusing an innocent with out proof, run her in to the authorities on the basis that she's quarian, whereas if she were any other species he would've just dropped the issue now that it was resolved...

Modifié par ZenJestr, 24 janvier 2012 - 05:11 .

[Shifty-looking Chicken]

Saphra Deden wrote...

Welsh Inferno wrote...

Love it when Tali has a go at him. The C-Sec officer annoys me more though, because he should know better.

The C-Sec officer never did anything wrong.

He was exceedingly rude and intolerable despite not actually doing anything, as you say "wrong". His line "You know what quarians are like" was especially offensive.

[Shifty-looking Chicken]

Saphra Deden wrote...

Shifty-looking Chicken wrote...

He was exceedingly rude and intolerable despite not actually doing anything, as you say "wrong". His line "You know what quarians are like" was especially offensive.

So send a letter to his superiors about his conduct.

That would be the mature thing to do and it might actually achieve something.

Shepard can't even answer an email from his own mother; what makes you think he can send a letter to C-Sec?