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[Gust4v]

Weiser_Cain wrote...

Somebody mod the game so Tali can do the strip tease dance-thing.
Please?

Sorry, but that's not possible.

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Modifié par Gust4v, 02 juillet 2011 - 08:29 .

[BlaznZero]

Hellbound555 wrote...

remember the good ole days?

everyone loved the cute nerdy engineer with a shotgun, what happened to that?

Haters began to hate. <_<

[Grand Admiral Cheesecake]

BlaznZero wrote...

Hellbound555 wrote...

remember the good ole days?

everyone loved the cute nerdy engineer with a shotgun, what happened to that?

Haters began to hate. <_<

The haters were originally kept in check by the sheer size of the old Talithread.
After the Woo crushed the Migrant Fleet thread they became emboldened.
And then the dark days began.

[Nashiktal]

Hey guys, was looking through old youtube threads when I stumbled upon this character analysis for Tali. After watching the video it made me realize how much Tali fans were actually rewarded in game, and not just with Tali! And guess who did the analysis? Smudboy.



Tali has among the most dialogue out of any squadmate, her recruitment mission is amongst the most tactically rich with choices, her loyalty mission how more themes than most of the ME2 plot combined... Made me realize how much Bioware cared for us Tali fans.

[Homebound]

^bro-fist for Houston.

[Pallid]

Nashiktal wrote...

Why so many people think that Tali's accent is Russian? You could actually find examples of real Russian accent on youtube(or somewhere else on the internet), compare and see(hear) that there are not too much resemblance. Well maybe a little bit with strong "r" and some minor stuff, but overall not so much.

[Gust4v]

I remember that video, surprisingly I agree with the majority of the points.
Bioware put a lot of effort on Tali an her missions

[Homebound]

tali has a russian accent? this is news to me.

ive always thought she had a bit of an arabic accent.

[CroGamer002]

^What did Tali broke the law?

[Homebound]

true enough, but you forget tali is her father's daughter.

[CroGamer002]

Arcian wrote...

Mesina2 wrote...

^What did Tali broke the law?

Well, they WERE sent to the Alarei to bring back evidence of what happened on the ship in order to exonerate her. However, when it turned out her father was reactivating geth for weapons testing, she just flipped 180 degrees and decided to screw over quarian law and her own place in the flotilla in order to protect her father from being justly labeled as Quarian Hitler for crimes he was actually guilty of.

Oh that well:

A) It's her father we're talking about
He tried with this experiments to get their homeworld back after 300 years
C) It would put chaos among her people



If she didn't do that then it would be out of her character and even make her 1-dimensional character too.



Also that's what I like about Tali.
She's not perfect, there are some flaws in her character.


Unlike with Liara.

Modifié par Mesina2, 02 juillet 2011 - 11:14 .

[T.Attwood]

Mesina2 wrote...

Also that's what I like about Tali.
She's not perfect, there are some flaws in her character.

Absolutely. Her father was doing some illegal things, in order to get back their homeworld. Quarian law banned Geth parts being brought aboard the ship (which, you would also have to question as well, as you are denying getting to know the 'enemy', which is essential in winning a conflict). Tali cared about her father, although she knew he was doing bad things, which is only human. (I am sure Martin Sheen has the same conflict going on in his mind, regarding his own son right now!). Also, after you talk to many of the people at the trial aboard the Flotilla, they also had their own agenda and flaws as well. Singling out Tali for repremand for something her father has done (without her knowledge), is questionable. This is what made the scenario so interesting for me. You had all these moral and ethical issues dumped on you (and your own personal feelings), and it was up to you to decide what 'you' felt was right or wrong, and what to do about it.
    I am sure the world would be a better place if every issue was black and white and perfect, but as you go through life, you realise everything isn't quite that simple...

Modifié par T.Attwood, 02 juillet 2011 - 12:56 .

[DoNotIngest]

^^Tali sent completely deactivated Gath parts for, so she thought, her father to pick apart and analyze. They weren't stopped on the way in, and it's stated that it's treasonous to bring active Geth parts onto the Flotilla (I guess we'll ignore Legion, an active Geth platform?). Seeing as hers were bits and pieces of "dead" Geth, she was completely fine to bring them aboard, and I'm sure there would have been approval and knowledge gained if her father hadn't decided to go be an arse about it and lie.

Modifié par DoNotIngest, 02 juillet 2011 - 12:09 .

[T.Attwood]

DoNotIngest wrote...

^^Tali sent completely deactivated Gath parts for, so she thought, her father to pick apart and analyze. They weren't stopped on the way in, and it's stated that it's treasonous to bring active Geth parts onto the Flotilla (I guess we'll ignore Legion, an active Geth platform?). Seeing as hers were bits and pieces of "dead" Geth, she was completely fine to bring them aboard, and I'm sure there would have been approval and knowledge gained if her father hadn't decided to go be an arse about it and lie.

Good point! In that case, Tali's father was no worse than your average politician. I think Arcian's accusation of him being a 'Quarian Hitler' is somewhat extreme.

[T.Attwood]

Arcian wrote...

I'm actually going by what Tali says if you turn in the evidence and less about the person himself. Seeing as how extreme his punishment is (and the fact that he is branded a war criminal, of all things), what he did must have been extremely wrong and immoral according to quarian law, making him what I could only describe as "Quarian Hitler".

I'm sure the guy himself wasn't so bad.

I think I see where you are coming from now.

Something occurred to me...Looking from the Quarians perspective, (who created the Geth), you could wonder if they really see their creation as 'people' at all. After all, the Geth were created as machines. They then display signs of 'self awareness', but (if you created them), you could wonder if they were really sentient  or whether it was a side effect of Neural networks. If you don't see the Geth as 'sentient' and thus not a race/species, then killing them could be seen no different to 'recycling old computers'. Other races, (for example) humans, turians, may see the Geth as an individual race and thus must be preserved, but if you were their creators and knew they were a bag of electronics, would killing them really be criminal, or would it just be like sticking a bullet into your PC, and thus has no ethical implications?

[CroGamer002]

^Same here, even though he was a dick in trial for no reason.

[T.Attwood]

Arcian wrote...

T.Attwood wrote...

I think I see where you are coming from now.

Something occurred to me...Looking from the Quarians perspective, (who created the Geth), you could wonder if they really see their creation as 'people' at all.

Some obviously do, like Admiral Koris.

Which is why I support him. He obviously has the right idea.

Can you elaborate on this? (I am trying to understand your point of view). What do you like about what he said, that makes you think he has the right idea about dealing with the situation? Are his assumptions accurate? Could he be be naive in trusting the Geth? This is a machine race that could lie without any remorse or guilt. (To add some context, I like Legion, and I don't think wiping them out is the answer, but I do have to ask the question of whether a race with no emotion can be trusted. Whilst they seem to be alive, they may not feel emotion like organics, and thus could be capable of *anything*).

[CroGamer002]

^Quarians never even tried to make diplomatic agreement with Geth.

Legion is first Geth that they contacted.

[Homebound]

tali's people saw the geth as nothing more than machines for labour, like our computers for example. unfortunately for them, they never had movies where their machines became sentient, so they had no way to conceptualize this event beforehand. so they panic and the geth go skynet on tali's people.

[UnitedWashclothExpress]

Legion shows emotion.