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Complistic wrote...

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Imo looks too human. The eyes and skin tone are "wrong". We clearly know she has humanlike face ( seen through her mask, nose especially). I'm actually imagining she'd have fully white/ glowy eyes. Also purpleish skin.


This place just keeps going around in circles man. 


Probably, but what else are we gonna do while waiting for ME3. 
Oh man, im so hoping they show her face! ^_^

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Regarding ME1 and not being able to romance Tali, I'm actually quite glad that it turned out the way it did - starting the romance in ME1 would have completely changed the relationship between Shepard and Tali (and not for the best, in my opinion) and the way it is now where you start the romance in ME2, it really makes the relationship between the two much more realistic and personal (having the two start out as comrades and friends, then having it develop into something more meaningful as time passes).


Agreed. In ME1 it was very much a close bond based on friendship and, in a fashion, mentorship. I think, in Tali, Shepard would have found someone he could relax around, talk too without that constant underlying romantic ambiance cluttering thier conversations. They were always just straight up with one another. In time that trust would build on chemistry and, in turn, become something more developed.

Ironically Shepard's death likely strengthened that bond as both felt the pain of being seperated from the other. When she see's him again, even with Cerberus, you have all of that longing rush forth, and she's just thankful to have him back, there's no doubting him (looking at you Ashley) or being cold (Liara) it's just, "Good to have you back." If they had gone with a Romance in ME1 that entire dymanic would have been lost. So...yeah, worked out in the end. 
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Complistic wrote...

Olvaha wrote...

Imo looks too human. The eyes and skin tone are "wrong". We clearly know she has humanlike face ( seen through her mask, nose especially). I'm actually imagining she'd have fully white/ glowy eyes. Also purpleish skin.


This place just keeps going around in circles man. 


Well, considering how little we have to work with as opposed to reveals like Vega or Diana Allers people have to keep the thread going. Even if it's the *same* round and around discussions. As long as the Trolls don't get things locked, I can bare it. 
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Thanks Bovine ^^
Yes, agree that the buildup to ME2 makes it better. It wouldn't have been as special to drag it across both games so this way packs more of a punch, especially as she was seen as young in the first one and when you reunite, she's the leader of her own pack and all that jazz.

imo the only difference there should be between her and that picture is that her eyes should be brighter and a little more slanted based on what we can see from the mask.

Question: Why aren't their masks transparent like humans in hostile environments? :/

Modifié par MJ5, 01 février 2012 - 07:42 .


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[quote]glenboy24 wrote...
Regarding ME1 and not being able to romance Tali, I'm actually quite glad that it turned out the way it did - starting the romance in ME1 would have completely changed the relationship between Shepard and Tali (and not for the best, in my opinion) and the way it is now where you start the romance in ME2, it really makes the relationship between the two much more realistic and personal (having the two start out as comrades and friends, then having it develop into something more meaningful as time passes).[/quote]

Oh my god.. Are you me? You summed my thoughts exactly! 
It is canon though, even if you dont romance Tali in the games, it's said that Tali did develop feelings for shep. That's what makes the romance so much more enjoyable.. The bond between them, the friendship they had in 1 :wub:

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MJ5 wrote...

Question: Why aren't their masks transparent like humans in hostile environments? :/


First off, I do believe that you cannot post pictures unless you have a game registered to your account. Not 100% on that but it seems likely.

As for the question, it is likely that the social environment on the Flotilla has become very secretive with regards to faces and the showing of them to others.
Showing one's face with someone generally comes with the linking of suit environments. Therefore, showing a face to another person would be seen as a massive sign of trust and/or intimacy. It would only really be done between family members, extremely close friends, and partners.
Besides, even if the mask was transparent the entire face would not be visible.

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i have been redirected to here from the General forum. Is Tali a lesbian in Mass Effect 3? Cause im picking a gender in ME1 right nao. :D

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ncknck wrote...

i have been redirected to here from the General forum. Is Tali a lesbian in Mass Effect 3? Cause im picking a gender in ME1 right nao. :D

It's not known. I can't even remember what the leak says.

Also, a word of warning. The subject of Tali's sexuality is a rather touchy subject here.

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Yeah, but why? If humans were exiled from Earth they would start wearing suits with clear glass as is proofed by all humans wearing transparent masks in ME. Whatevs, not a huge pressing issue anyway.

I find the writing team does an excellent job of dropping those things about Tali, like how she had feelings for Shep in ME1 and that she seemed too young. Great development there.

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ncknck wrote...

i have been redirected to here from the General forum. Is Tali a lesbian in Mass Effect 3? Cause im picking a gender in ME1 right nao. :D


According to the leaked script, she is not. The dialogue is very gender-specific making it clear she's only talking to maleShep.

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thank you :(

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MJ5 wrote...

Yeah, but why? If humans were exiled from Earth they would start wearing suits with clear glass as is proofed by all humans wearing transparent masks in ME. Whatevs, not a huge pressing issue anyway.


Yes, but what if, for three hundred years, those humans were stuck in space, on their degrading ships, being despised by the galaxy, and stuck in those suits.
How would two people make their love for each other known?
Each and every person' face is different. If the face is not publicly shown then it becomes something of value. Not monetary value like money but social value. Having one's face shown to you would essentially give your friendship far more value than otherwise. Without something like that, the number of things that can be shared between lovers or close friends is very small and not very meaningful.

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TotpT (TRIPLE DOSE)

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TronTali?

My favorite face concept:
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Rave Tali?
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i cudda sworn quarians were hairless

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SubZeroMaster wrote...

i cudda sworn quarians were hairless

Another thing we just don't know yet.

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Spartanburger wrote...

MJ5 wrote...

Question: Why aren't their masks transparent like humans in hostile environments? :/


First off, I do believe that you cannot post pictures unless you have a game registered to your account. Not 100% on that but it seems likely.

As for the question, it is likely that the social environment on the Flotilla has become very secretive with regards to faces and the showing of them to others.
Showing one's face with someone generally comes with the linking of suit environments. Therefore, showing a face to another person would be seen as a massive sign of trust and/or intimacy. It would only really be done between family members, extremely close friends, and partners.
Besides, even if the mask was transparent the entire face would not be visible.

I always thought it was so bachteria found it difficult to grow without the light.

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Spartanburger wrote...

SubZeroMaster wrote...

i cudda sworn quarians were hairless

Another thing we just don't know yet.


im pretty sure thats ones a fact

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captain skillage wrote...

I always thought it was so bachteria found it difficult to grow without the light.

Although that is true (there are bacteria that can grow without photosynthsis but those are generally found underground and not on a living body) it is probably not the primary reason.

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SubZeroMaster wrote...

im pretty sure thats ones a fact

Nope. All we know is that their ears are probably different from what we know as the standard ear and that they are mammals. 
Edit: I have no idea why I said 'they're' instead of their...

Modifié par Spartanburger, 01 février 2012 - 09:41 .


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I'd be pretty pissed myself if Tali were to be bisexual, it would ruin it a bit for me.

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MJ5 wrote...

I'd be pretty pissed myself if Tali were to be bisexual, it would ruin it a bit for me.

One of the arguments for it (one that I share) is that if you don't like it, don't do it. If you play as a Maleshep then she can remain a romance or, if you chose not to, she can remain a regular squadmate. If you play as a Femshep then just don't go down that path. You wouldn't even see the change in sexuality unless you played as a femshep anyway.

But I do understand the arguments against it. If it changed her character in a way that is completely unrealistic then I would not support it in any way (changes in character like from ME1 to ME2 are acceptable because those are realistic).

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Tali's gonna be bi?

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Ravensword wrote...

Tali's gonna be bi?


According to the leaked script, no. I also think we should drop the subject since there's already is a negative percepetion about this in regards to Tali's fanbase. We don't need to add fuel to the fire.

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Ravensword wrote...

Tali's gonna be bi?

Unknown. Nothing in the leak implies it, but we just won't know until ME3 is released unless BioWare comes out of it's shtick of having no ME3 info about Tali aside from some few pics.

Not that that's a good thing. I'd rather not be spoiled too much.

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Okay, then. I don't see what the big deal about her sexuality is.

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Lets not go down that sexuality path it just gets ugly and it always ends the same way.