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[Vapaa]

MJ5 wrote...

One of my problems with there being no gender specific LIs is that it makes the game more unrealistic since EVERY member of the team just so happens to be bisexual.

To me choices>realism

It doesn't hurt Tali's character to turning her bi, and the same can be said for every LI in ME games.

Atemeus wrote...

If you don't understand, it's because not every love interest is going to turn out to have been bi all along in ME3. In the end who Mshep gets and who Femshep gets is Bioware's perogative. It's not a matter of being unfair to Femshep players, or anything like that. Bioware decided to stick with Tali and Garrus being straight in this last game. It wasn't impossible, but it's also not the direction they had to go either.

Of course , but what I don't understand is why people (not Bioware) think it's bad, but anyways it's going too far off-topic

Modifié par Vapaä, 02 février 2012 - 01:31 .

[MJ5]

Don't think it's bad but it's bad writing for everyone to have been bi. Doesn't make any sense and I can't wrap my head around things like that, it disconnects me from the story.

[MJ5]

But in regards to what someone said earlier about the script leaks, whatsup with that? Link?

[sites32]

Olvaha wrote...

Can we just drop the topic? It's gone for awhile already..

Like I said, it goes on and on. No one wants to except nothing and everyone who does not agree is a homophobe. Just move on already. The homeworlds #2 comic is all about tali and no one has anything to add? Really?

[HellBovine]

sitesunseen wrote...

Olvaha wrote...

Can we just drop the topic? It's gone for awhile already..

Like I said, it goes on and on. No one wants to except nothing and everyone who does not agree is a homophobe. Just move on already. The homeworlds #2 comic is all about tali and no one has anything to add? Really?

Won't really be able to discuss that until we get our hands on it, kinda hard to speculate on what was shown within. Basically either it is a retelling of the ME1 Saren info discovery or someone is in desperate need of Shepard's boot up their ass.

[clennon8]

MJ5 wrote...

clennon8 wrote...

 Indulge your sweet tooth, Tali fans.  Read my short story: Return to You

You sir, are very talented. Very well written. Post more!

Thank you!  I also have this one: Progress.  It's Tali's side of Freedom's Progress, and it's an attempt at foreshadowing the Talimance later in the game.

[GipsyDangeresque]

I'll have to read it a little later today. I'm busy playing through ME1 still right now, lol. It might be something interest to read and keep in mind as I start ME2 up, since I'm already coming up on Virmire.

[HellBovine]

Atemeus wrote...

I'll have to read it a little later today. I'm busy playing through ME1 still right now, lol. It might be something interest to read and keep in mind as I start ME2 up, since I'm already coming up on Virmire.

ME1 is starting to grate on my video-game OCD, damn all those sidequests.

[GipsyDangeresque]

Thankfully I was told that the writings/stg tags collection quests don't have any kind of flag or marker that carries them over from ME1. It eased my conscience greatly to be not really concerning myself with them.

[HellBovine]

Atemeus wrote...

Thankfully I was told that the writings/stg tags collection quests don't have any kind of flag or marker that carries them over from ME1. It eased my conscience greatly to be not really concerning myself with them.

I understand that these quests are unimportant, but that still doesn't stop me from having a compulsion to finish them. Tali's loyalty especially takes forever.

[GipsyDangeresque]

Bah, the geth missions are nice to me because I get bonus XP for killing then out of the mako, and I need every advantage to reach level 50 in one playthrough.

If nothing else, do it for Tali's sake, man up! Lol

[-N7-Seeker]

Nice stories there! I loved both of them. Please write more.

On topic of the Bi Love Interests.
I disagree with wome of them... Garrus or Thane really? That sound idiotistic and sh*tty! Bah! No men should be Bi... I have no words for this. Tali can be Bi if there is a long-long and long time to earn that. But i still do not agree with it completly.

[MJ5]

Clennon88, your stories are brilliant. Really really urge you to write more for the sake of the people on this forum. And you've inspired me, I was thinking of dabbling with some fan fiction myself when I had some time but you're stuff is really top notch, hope to hear more from you

Especially Tali stories

Modifié par MJ5, 02 février 2012 - 05:08 .

[AVPen]

Could we please drop the character's sexuality talk? There are other places for that discussion.

Olvaha wrote...

For anyone who has read the leaked script.. I dont want any spoilers, but just an opinion.
Did you like the tali romance in 3? Was it satisfying? Was just reading the garrus thread and noticed how many people loved the romance in 3. Got a lil jealous 
So, without spoiling anything.. Did you like it?

Honestly, I loved it - very good progression of the relationship, nice conversations, perfectly in character for both Shepard and Tali. I'm most definitely looking forward to it in ME3. 

[HellBovine]

AVPen wrote...

Olvaha wrote...

For anyone who has read the leaked script.. I dont want any spoilers, but just an opinion.
Did you like the tali romance in 3? Was it satisfying? Was just reading the garrus thread and noticed how many people loved the romance in 3. Got a lil jealous 
So, without spoiling anything.. Did you like it?

Honestly, I loved it - very good progression of the relationship, nice conversations, perfectly in character for both Shepard and Tali. I'm most definitely looking forward to it in ME3. 

Agreed, the Me3 talimance looked just about perfect, basically every point that should have been adressed seemed to be. Everything I read was spot on in character.

[MJ5]

AVPen wrote...

Could we please drop the character's sexuality talk? There are other places for that discussion.

Olvaha wrote...

For anyone who has read the leaked script.. I dont want any spoilers, but just an opinion.
Did you like the tali romance in 3? Was it satisfying? Was just reading the garrus thread and noticed how many people loved the romance in 3. Got a lil jealous 
So, without spoiling anything.. Did you like it?

Honestly, I loved it - very good progression of the relationship, nice conversations, perfectly in character for both Shepard and Tali. I'm most definitely looking forward to it in ME3. 

Could you please provide a link for the leaked script?

[Nashiktal]

Atemeus wrote...

Zkyire wrote...

Because Femshep gets Thane and Garrus.

Why can't Maleshep have Tali?

Well, Tali's character is not the same character as Thane and Garrus. They'd need separate character development, but I guess LIs turning Bi is like trading cards to people? Would you be cool with it if Malesheps got Garrus at the same time or something?

Actually yes, garrus makes the most sense as a bi love interest. He isn't even physically attracted to femshep because of the whole (your not even my species thing), garrus is a turian afterall, his romance is based on respect forged in the battlefield.

[Nashiktal]

Zkyire wrote...

MJ5 wrote...

Yeah, why are there female-specific characters like Thane and Garrus yet I'm out of line for thinking there should be one male-specific character.

Yeah seriously.

Garrus is for Femshep only.

Thane is for Femshep only.

We ask that Tali then remain Maleshep only "OMG YOU'RE A HOMOPHOBE"

..wat.

I never once mentioned the word homophobe (and didn't even think of him that way) I attacked him based on his logic, not on his opinion on sexuality.

He stated that by letting femshep romance tali that would make her not his somehow, which using that logic she isn't his anyway since there are thousands of players who are romancing tali already.

I just don't see what the big deal is about giving options to every player, especially since it won't impact tali's character at all, except your perception of her I guess with the way people are arguing about it.

Modifié par Nashiktal, 02 février 2012 - 05:57 .

[Nashiktal]

MJ5 wrote...

AVPen wrote...

Could we please drop the character's sexuality talk? There are other places for that discussion.

Olvaha wrote...

For anyone who has read the leaked script.. I dont want any spoilers, but just an opinion.
Did you like the tali romance in 3? Was it satisfying? Was just reading the garrus thread and noticed how many people loved the romance in 3. Got a lil jealous 
So, without spoiling anything.. Did you like it?

Honestly, I loved it - very good progression of the relationship, nice conversations, perfectly in character for both Shepard and Tali. I'm most definitely looking forward to it in ME3. 

Could you please provide a link for the leaked script?

You should ask him in PM, the mods are not letting ANYONE share links publically.

[MJ5]

Nashiktal wrote...

Zkyire wrote...

MJ5 wrote...

Yeah, why are there female-specific characters like Thane and Garrus yet I'm out of line for thinking there should be one male-specific character.

Yeah seriously.

Garrus is for Femshep only.

Thane is for Femshep only.

We ask that Tali then remain Maleshep only "OMG YOU'RE A HOMOPHOBE"

..wat.

I never once mentioned the word homophobe (and didn't even think of him that way) I attacked him based on his logic, not on his opinion on sexuality.

He stated that by letting femshep romance tali that would make her not his somehow, which using that logic she isn't his anyway since there are thousands of players who are romancing tali already.

I just don't see what the big deal is about giving options to every player, especially since it won't impact tali's character at all, except your perception of her I guess with the way people are arguing about it.

I never explicitly stated it in that manner but fair enough if you've decided that's my stance. Then at least address my other point that I did confirm as a worry, that being the quality of the game would be watered down by every ME character conveniently being bisexual for the sake of dual relationship status.

[XenoAlbedo]

I'm back and- Oh joy more pointless arguing.

[Nashiktal]

MJ5 wrote...

Nashiktal wrote...

Zkyire wrote...

MJ5 wrote...

Yeah, why are there female-specific characters like Thane and Garrus yet I'm out of line for thinking there should be one male-specific character.

Yeah seriously.

Garrus is for Femshep only.

Thane is for Femshep only.

We ask that Tali then remain Maleshep only "OMG YOU'RE A HOMOPHOBE"

..wat.

I never once mentioned the word homophobe (and didn't even think of him that way) I attacked him based on his logic, not on his opinion on sexuality.

He stated that by letting femshep romance tali that would make her not his somehow, which using that logic she isn't his anyway since there are thousands of players who are romancing tali already.

I just don't see what the big deal is about giving options to every player, especially since it won't impact tali's character at all, except your perception of her I guess with the way people are arguing about it.

I never explicitly stated it in that manner but fair enough if you've decided that's my stance. Then at least address my other point that I did confirm as a worry, that being the quality of the game would be watered down by every ME character conveniently being bisexual for the sake of dual relationship status.

I disagree with that assumption. How would things be watered down at all? Just simply use (mostly) the same dialogue as used for the previously exclusive sex and most won't care. Those who are attracted to thane, garrus, or tali have already either seen the romance online at youtube, or were forced to play as the opposite sex as themselves to romance them in the first place.

As such they are already attracted to the way the characters act to those they love, and all they want is to be a part of that. I don't see how that waters anything down at all. If anything the only complaint I would leverage is that bioware is putting too much focus on romances (which they already do anyways.)

[Olvaha]

Thanks guys! Really makes me happy to hear that you liked it! Now the eaiting is even more hard

[MJ5]

Alright, since the sexuality discussion is aggravating everyone I'm done with it.

But can someone PM me the link to the link script please? Thanks in advance ^^

[XenoAlbedo]

MJ5 wrote...

Alright, since the sexuality discussion is aggravating everyone I'm done with it.

But can someone PM me the link to the link script please? Thanks in advance ^^

Yeah, I would love to see the script... Maybe. I have bitter sweet morales about spoilers.