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[Goneaviking]

Unschuld wrote...

Saphra Deden wrote...

Unschuld wrote...

How do you hide from an enemy that finds you wherever you run? Didn't end too well for the protheans,

Like I said. They hide and hope the other races (which have considerably more firepower and resources) can win. If not they're dead anyway along with everyone else.

This is terrible, terrible psuedologic and I hope no one ever shares a foxhole with you.  


So.... Hide and *hope* that everyone wins, contributing nothing to the effort, meanwhile your contribution could have meant that victory was possible, but instead your lack of effort led the defeat. Then you get hunted down next. OR... You contribute something that could possibly lead to a favorable outcome. The worst that can happen is that you all die anyway, but at least you did something about it. Contribution=/=combat.

Bah! They give Tali to Shepard, what more do you want from these people?

[GodWood]

The raloi have the right idea.

"Let's bury our heads in the sand and hope it all blows over".

[Troodon80]

Saphra Deden wrote...

You see, I'm looking at this from the quarian perspective.

There is no reason they should fight unless fighting increases their chances of survival over all. Otherwise it is best to just avoid the fighting. They are not a species that can afford heavy causalities. One one major defeat will be enough to break them.

And yet you think giving the data and dividing the entire fleet is a good thing?

Or, at the very least, not a bad thing?

[Biobleh]

Bioware took the cowardly route when scripting ME3, for the Quarians at least. There should really have been a scene where the migrant fleet gets massacred by Reapers. Not geth.

[Unschuld]

Saphra Deden wrote...

Unschuld wrote...

This is terrible, terrible psuedologic and I hope no one ever shares a foxhole with you.

You must be a real war hawk.

No, I just fail to see any reason to trust someone who openly admits that at the first sign of adversity will attempt to switch sides in order to save themselves. 

Saphra Deden wrote...
You see, I'm looking at this from the quarian perspective.

I already stated that contribution does not mean direct combat. Also, you're assuming I mean unified in a physical sense, clumped in one place.

Modifié par Unschuld, 05 février 2012 - 07:28 .

[Unschuld]

Saphra Deden wrote...

Unschuld wrote...

I already stated that contribution does not mean direct combat. 

Okay, so what does it mean?

Good god, man! I think I'm going to go lie down for the night and see if you can figure out the simple math for yourself. 

[JosephDucreux]

Cthulhu42 wrote...

Hellbound555 wrote...

JosephDucreux wrote...

Hellbound555 wrote...

what does Tali's sweat smell like? I remember Tali's writer tweeting something about how it smells like cinnamon in response to thundertactic's next-level science chart but the answer was never answered to what it smelled like in relation to his diagram.

That sh*t just gross, yo.

anything is better than this groundhogs day topic.

That reminds me; GMagnum got banned for asking the Miranda thread what her sweat tasted like (his guess was Sprite).

Seriously, dafuq is Gmag's deal? IIRC, he asked the Jack thread the same thing, not sure about the Liara & Ashley thread. But why...

[schemata]

Saphra Deden wrote...

Unschuld wrote...

Good god, man! I think I'm going to go lie down for the night and see if you can figure out the simple math for yourself. 

Bite me.

What do you want the quarians to do?

Are they gonna evacuate worlds? Sure, they could do that, but why should they?

u need more heart dude

[GodWood]

JosephDucreux wrote...
Seriously, dafuq is Gmag's deal? IIRC, he asked the Jack thread the same thing, not sure about the Liara & Ashley thread. But why...

I imagine it'd taste like any other human's sweat.

Now what's really important is what would she smell like?

I'm thinking sweat and leather. Yum, yum.

Modifié par GodWood, 05 février 2012 - 07:49 .

[Troodon80]

Saphra Deden wrote...

I don't see why it is automatically a bad thing, no.

It lets each camp decide for themselves what they are going to do.

In the event of Reaper invasion the quarian species as a whole is safer and less vulnerable.

If they need to act against the Reapers they are no worse off to do so.

Assuming a 50/50 split (which is very unlikely). That leaves roughly 8.5million quarians and roughly 25k ships. That offers a lot less percentage of survival of either group than if they stick together. I understand what you're saying, as in if one lot gets ambushed there's always another lot that can repopulate the homeworld, assuming there is one after all is said and done. This assumes that both groups don't get ambushed. Given that they are smaller groups, the divide and conquer (or acid analogy) comes into play.

[Rip504]

Saphra Deden wrote...

jreezy wrote...

Saphra sounds like Saren.

Saren was a smart man.

Now I wouldn't be quite as eager to collaborate as Saren is. I want to at least wait for the Reapers to arrive and then see just what our chances are. Then I'll decide whether or not it is better to just surrender.

However my intuition tells me that unless some ancient super weapon turns up that can crush the Reapers we are screwed.

EDIT

Wait, intuition is the wrong word. My observations of the Reaper(s) we've seen so far and analysis of the nature of interstellar warfare tells me that victory for us is very unlikely. We aren't fighting an enemy that has any need to preserve our garden worlds, or any worlds at all.

Like a dark matter weapon that can destroy a star?

[Goneaviking]

schemata wrote...

Saphra Deden wrote...

Unschuld wrote...

Good god, man! I think I'm going to go lie down for the night and see if you can figure out the simple math for yourself. 

Bite me.

What do you want the quarians to do?

Are they gonna evacuate worlds? Sure, they could do that, but why should they?

u need more heart dude

What has anyone ever done for the Quarians lately? Other than arrest them for vagrancy.

I'll be disappointed if their initial stance is anything other than: "What's in it for us?"

[Goneaviking]

jreezy wrote...

Goneaviking wrote...

schemata wrote...

Saphra Deden wrote...

Unschuld wrote...

Good god, man! I think I'm going to go lie down for the night and see if you can figure out the simple math for yourself. 

Bite me.

What do you want the quarians to do?

Are they gonna evacuate worlds? Sure, they could do that, but why should they?

u need more heart dude

What has anyone ever done for the Quarians lately? Other than arrest them for vagrancy.

I'll be disappointed if their initial stance is anything other than: "What's in it for us?"

"What's in it for us?" does make sense but I can understand them being cooperative if the choice is "help or be destroyed."

Well yes. But would it be unreasonable for them to attach some conditions to their agreement?

A homeworld would be nice. Some kind of representation on the Citadel wouldn't be inappropriate. Being allowed off the boat on Illium like everyone else would be setting the bar far too low, but it'd be something.

Seriously, why should their first instinct be to help maintain the same status quo that keeps them in the toilet pit? If the Council and other governments can't provide some kind of assurance that they won't still be treated like garbage after providing their assistance against the Reapers, then why shouldn't they consider trying to reach a separate accomodation with the Reapers as a first response?

Modifié par Goneaviking, 05 février 2012 - 08:14 .

[Troodon80]

Saphra Deden wrote...

If the Reapers ever bother hunting down the quarians it will be after they've subjugated everyone else anyway.

True, it will speed things up, but I also don't think it will cut the time completely in half. Ships still need to communicate with each other, the group still needs to be kept together. It will cut time down, certainly, which a good thing.

There's also the matter of 'random encounters' with the Reapers. Every time the fleet (or smaller groups) passes through a relay, they run the risk of coming head to head with a Reaper, or indeed groups of Reapers, on the other end.